All Boards >> Eating for IBS Diet Board

Posts     Flat       Threaded

Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | >> (show all)
Re: Don't stress Helen! new
      #198419 - 07/22/05 02:31 AM
Linz

Reged: 09/01/03
Posts: 8242
Loc: England

I did take one every morning and then one extra for attacks. Did that for about 6 months and it really helped me stabilise.

Now I just take them for attacks (like today ) and only use a SFS on a daily basis.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Worse than ever this morning new
      #198512 - 07/22/05 08:25 AM
belinda

Reged: 10/09/03
Posts: 474
Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Helen:

Actually, I should have said "stick to the diet rules" as opposed to the diet itself! I personally don't agree entirely with the diet. I speak from a lot of experience since I've had IBS for 47 years, as near as I can tell!

First of all, I don't believe in eating prepared foods except in exceptional circumstances and I am amazed at some of the so-called "safe" prepared snacks listed on this website! For example, things like Lays baked potato chips and pretzels would definitely not be something I could tolerate. I guess they work for some, but not for me.

Basically I follow the diet rules on this website, but not the recipes or the prepared snack foods that are listed. Also, I believe in eating organic where possible and I avoid (like the plague) anything containing additives (even vitamin additives) and chemicals.

I have difficulty accepting this website's advice to remove poultry and fish from one's diet while stabilizing. Unless you have an inflammation in your intestines and need to be on a softer diet, I think some protein in the form of meat (not red meat, of course!) is essential to keep your blood sugar stable. I have blood sugar problems myself and would not at any time be able to remove poultry or fish from my diet.

I don't know what is in the bread mix you are using, but, of course, dairy would not be the only concern. In addition, for me, additives of any kind would also be a problem. If you are not feeling up to making bread from scratch, you could find out if there is a good Jewish bakery in your area that sells "parve" bread. That means the bread will not contain milk products (although check the other ingredients!). Actually, I've generally had no trouble finding bread in the U.K. that doesn't contain milk products. (I travel to England almost every year.) Another option is to buy "matzoh" from a supermarket that sells Jewish products. It's like crackers and often just contains white wheat flour and water (check the ingredients and phone the manufacturer if you're not sure whether the wheat flour is white although usually it is even though it may not be stated). I think it would be soothing (although not gastronomical!) to dip the matzoh in boiled water and eat it. I often carry matzoh with me as a snack.

I personally think your approach of sticking to either organic white rice or peeled potatoes and eating plain chicken/turkey breasts & fish while stabilizing is a good one. I would also recommend drinking Twinings organic peppermint tea, or just plain boiled water (very soothing) if you can't get out of the house to buy the tea. Twinings organic peppermint tea was available at Waitrose the last time I was in England.

I also find peeled, cooked carrots to be easy to digest and they add a little vegetable into your diet while stabilizing. Sometimes I make soup consisting of organic chicken breast, potato, rice, carrots and parsley when I am trying to stabilize. The warm liquid is soothing to the stomach and at the same time I get some sustenance.

However, please be aware you may not get a true result right now from attempting Heather's diet because the medications you are on could be aggravating your IBS. Some of us (especially me!) have major problems tolerating medications, in particular things like pain killers and muscle relaxants, etc.

Feel better soon!

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Neck Problem new
      #198515 - 07/22/05 08:36 AM
belinda

Reged: 10/09/03
Posts: 474
Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I have a degenerative disk in my neck so I know somewhat of the pain you speak! I went for physiotherapy on and off, and continued to be in pain, for 15 years before finding my way to a good masseuse (expensive!) and taking up (believe it or not because I am just 86 pounds!), with the assistance of a good trainer (very expensive!), weight lifting!

I still have limited mobility in my neck, but I am no longer in pain (although I guess the potential is always there because the X-rays show I have arthritis in my neck).

During the 15 years of neck misery I had to endure the pain without pain killers because I couldn't tolerate the medication. In the end, I had to seek the expensive non-chemical solution (in the form of massage and weight lifting). Thankfully I haven't been back to the physiotherapist for my neck problem in two years now!

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Worse than ever this morning new
      #198516 - 07/22/05 08:37 AM
HL33

Reged: 06/12/05
Posts: 97
Loc: Essex, UK

Yep I have been drinking peppermint tea but I must admit that its giving me acid indigestion (burning in the throat) at night so I'm sticking to Fennel & Chamomile at the moment, the bread mix I've had a reply to my email to them & the mix I bought is endorsed by The Vegan Society so hopefully its ok, I must admit I'm not happy with baked chips/crisps either but I'm not a big fan of crisps anyway so would not bother with them
Helen

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Don't stress Helen! new
      #198520 - 07/22/05 08:42 AM
Sand

Reged: 12/13/04
Posts: 4490
Loc: West Orange, NJ (IBS-D)

Quote:

I sometimes feel like I want to jump up & down & have a hissy fit


Ooh, I didn't know anyone else said "hissy fit". I learned it from my mother. When she was really upset about something, she'd also say she "had a kitten with a glass eye and a wire tail" - if you can do a Southern US accent on the word "wire" it sounds even better.

I'm a little confused by this thread. Since you're not on Heather's Break The Cycle diet, I don't know why there would be any question about eating white meat chicken or fish - they're perfectly IBS-safe protein sources.


--------------------
[Research tells us fourteen out of any ten individuals likes chocolate. - Sandra Boynton]

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Don't stress Helen! new
      #198523 - 07/22/05 08:51 AM
HL33

Reged: 06/12/05
Posts: 97
Loc: Essex, UK

I'm actually supposed to be on the Break the cycle diet but I found it far too restrictive in my present condition so I'm sort of tailoring it round my needs!
Helen

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Don't stress Helen! new
      #198529 - 07/22/05 09:19 AM
Sand

Reged: 12/13/04
Posts: 4490
Loc: West Orange, NJ (IBS-D)

Well, then, if I were in your shoes, I would just eat IBS-safe, without really worrying about maintaining any semblance of the Break The Cycle diet. I think you'd probably have better luck staying safe if you ate based on the recipes on the Recipe Board and in Heather's books than if you tried to find packaged food that was "safe". I'm not saying that because I think all packaged food is bad - I use Reduced Fat Bisquick and the ingredient list reads like a high school chemistry project. It's just that packaged foods can be a real minefield, especially when you're first starting out, whereas if you use the Recipe Index recipes, you pretty much know they're safe. Also, you can eat more healthily if you open up the whole range of IBS-safe recipes.

Just my opinion. I actually didn't do the Break The Cycle diet when I first started Heather's approach and I still felt much better very quickly. I did do the Break The Cycle diet a few months later when I was recovering from going off Heather's diet big-time. (I think I posted you about what I ate then in an earlier thread.) I guess my point is, the Break The Cycle diet can be really great, but it's not absolutely necessary to start feeling better.

--------------------
[Research tells us fourteen out of any ten individuals likes chocolate. - Sandra Boynton]

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Uh oh... new
      #198747 - 07/22/05 10:50 PM
HL33

Reged: 06/12/05
Posts: 97
Loc: Essex, UK

There appears to be a pattern developing on Thurs I did not eat any bread at all & friday morning although BM were loose there was no urgency also less frequent loo trips aswell, but yesterday I ate bread a few times & bingo I was up at 5am this morning needing to go to the loo urgently I've been up for just under 2 hours & been to the loo three times already & BM are between watery & loose, I thinking giving the bread a miss & seeing what happens but I'm not sure if I've given it enough time what do you think?

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

No where near long enough. new
      #198750 - 07/23/05 04:15 AM
Linz

Reged: 09/01/03
Posts: 8242
Loc: England

For a standard exclusion diet you have to cut out all the possible triggers completely (so in your case no wheat, gluten or yeast at all, not just less bread) for about a month...and 3 months is more reliable in the case of gluten. And then you add the triggers back in, one at a time, with a month between trying each new one.

Plus atm you're unstable so symptoms day to day aren't neccesarily a good indicator of what your triggers are.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

No peppermint or ginger... new
      #198751 - 07/23/05 04:17 AM
Linz

Reged: 09/01/03
Posts: 8242
Loc: England

...for you...or for any of us with GERDs/reflux. Are you on meds for that?

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | >> (show all)

Extra information
0 registered and 331 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  Heather 

Print Thread

Permissions
      You cannot post until you login
      You cannot reply until you login
      HTML is enabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Thread views: 8029

Jump to

| Privacy statement Help for IBS Home

*
UBB.threads™ 6.2


HelpForIBS.com BBB Business Review