Re: Uh oh...
#198047 - 07/21/05 04:33 AM
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Linz
Reged: 09/01/03
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That's actually a classic IBS pain pattern. I know C's get alot more general pain and discomfort than D's....and of course everyone's different!
Double check the Jacks, I may be wrong. If you can't eat regular pasta, I'd be suspicious of a wheat or gluten intolerance too. Maybe you should do an exclusion diet? DOing it for gluten is pretty tough tho as it's hidden in so many things and some people say it takes 3 months to readjust...but at least you might then know.
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Re: Uh oh...
#198053 - 07/21/05 05:44 AM
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HL33
Reged: 06/12/05
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Loc: Essex, UK
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Tell me about it I've just found it in the readybrek I ate this morning!!! Oat gluten by the looks of it,
I haven't had a coffee or anything with caffiene in it for two weeks same with dairy (not knowingly) & that does not have appeared to make any difference, considering how bad I was this morning it just must of been something I ate yesterday so I think I'm going to approach this slightly differently, I'll stick to the guidelines but just ditch the gluten stuff aswell & see how that goes, the normal stablising diet it far too restrictive for more than a few days so I'm going to add chicken breasts & white fish to it
any other suggestions?
Helen
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Just checked the pack of Snack o Jacks & the caramel flavour comes from milk
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I'd try just doing the regular diet (with gluten) for a while first but being extra careful to read all the labels! Cutting gluten out is very hard as it's hidden in so many things - you need an expert to tell you what - and some people do say that for a gluten exclusion diet you need to cut it out completely (as with all exclsuion diets if you slip up you have to start again) for 3 months!  That's v. tough.
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yes I found that out tonight shopping I'm finding it a bit of a double edged sword as most of the gluten free items contain milk & eggs or is high in fat  perhaps I'll just lower the intake a bit & see
Helen
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Forgive me for saying this, but you are eating foods off the diet and then posting messages wondering why you are sick! This is crazy!
You need to follow Heather's diet and you need to read ingredients for everything you are eating. As I suggested before, sticking to things you make yourself (using ingredients from scratch) is the best approach for now as opposed to eating prepared foods such as a chicken roll, snack o jacks, etc.
I've posted the complaint before that many people on this message board are seeking fast, simple solutions for what is a very complex condition. From personal experience, the solutions are not simple and you will need to spend much more time in food preparation and scrutinizing everything you are eating.
Unfortunately, we have been reared in a fast food society, but we (IBS people) suffer from a condition requiring a slow food approach.
That is the sad reality.
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Could it be the stock cube? A lot them contain triggers. I recommend organic or homemade stock only. Also, the roll could contain suspect ingredients.
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I appreciate what your saying but sometimes you need to adapt something to meet your own needs its well documented that what suits one does not nessacary others, at this present moment in time I'm in a lot of pain due to a prolapsed disk in my neck I'm taking Amitriptyline primarily a anti depressent but using as a muscle relaxant in this case & also Diazepam (Vallium), I'm not sleeping due to the muscle spasms & constant pins & needles down one arm I'm due to see a specialist on 1st August but I already know that nothing is going to happen that day as I need to be refered for am MRI scan so in the circumstances I am doing the best I can, I take your point about checking ingredients but I did find Snack o jacks & rice crispies posted on here as a safe foodS! anyway this morning I am having bread made in the bread machine yes it is with a ready made mix but I have checked & rechecked the ingredients & no dairy at all, I will also be sticking to either Organic white rice or peeled potatoes, but & your not going to like this but I will be eating plain chicken/turkey breasts & fish, if after a few days of this I haven't stablised then I will start dropping the meat etc, Im sorry it does not conform to what you feel is the diet but it is the best I can manage at the moment, you said yourself that you can't eat bananas/certain rice etc so if you stuck to the SF staples listed on page 27 (1st yr) you would also be sick aswell! everybody has to start somewhere & that may be different for everyone I'm not searching for a quick fix I've had this for 11yrs so another few months aren't going to make much difference,
Helen
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The Snack a Jacks thing was a common misconception as most other rice cake things ARE fine. I'll ask Heather to make sure they're removed from the list.
And in this country at least, Rice Krispies contain Glucose-Fructose syrup, but I don't know how high a percentage of fructose it is. Anyway, I ate Crunchy Nut cornflakes for ages with NO problems and they have the same thing.
And eating the safe protein sources is just fine! It's debateable whether that's an issue with the BTC diet at all. And anyway, that's only for a few days tops. You should be introducing other foods in this w/e anyway, so enjoy experimenting! 
PS. as you get D, try Paracetamol & Codeine (NOT solpadeine as that contains caffeine) for the pain...it has a slight constipating effect which is a great side effect with D! 
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Trying not to get too stressed but what with my neck problem the only way I can describe how it feels is that imagine you have a 2/3yr old child walking around repeatedly sayiny "mummy mummy" tugging at your arm 24hrs a day whilst you have one of those blood pressure monitors blown up to maximum on the same arm you've then got to concentrate on what your going to do with that bag of rice & dry bread  I sometimes feel like I want to jump up & down & have a hissy fit & pull out the nearest choclate bar
How many Lopermide caps do you take?
Helen
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