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Re: Thanks for clarifying that.... new
      #191151 - 07/02/05 11:49 PM
Gerry10

Reged: 10/15/03
Posts: 450
Loc: Las Vegas,Nev.

Honey you would know if you have TMJ the pain is very bad,an yes like he said your ear hurts,jaw,an your head hurts very bad,please Don't entertain your friends by popping your jaw,it may not hurt now but as you get older it will.Gerry,

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Gerry... new
      #191152 - 07/03/05 12:37 AM
doubletrouble

Reged: 11/14/04
Posts: 1530
Loc: Canberra, Australia

I don't do it anymore! He he. At 26 I think I'm a little beyond entertaining my friends by popping my jaw I did it when I was a kid/young teen. Just so you don't think I'm hurting myself Sorry to hear you have it though. It sounds terrible

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Re: It's all about ME (just like a man!) new
      #191153 - 07/03/05 12:39 AM
Gerry10

Reged: 10/15/03
Posts: 450
Loc: Las Vegas,Nev.

You really sound like me,no matter what I eat I will get one or the other,I,m afraid to leave the house.Honey you are not a self-centered person,a person told me one time on this board that I complain to much so I stop writeing even when I thought this was what this board was for,to till it like it is,now I'm sorry I stop writeing I really need to talk to someone ,on May 23,I had to call 911 for my husband,
they think he has had 2-3 stroke he was under for 5 weeks with a tub in his throat I think they call it a trax,he can't talk,he is being feed by a tub in his tummy,after 5 weeks I finally get to see his beautiful blue eyes,but I really don't know if he even knows who I'm,so I guess we are lucky with are TMJ an IBS,we may be in pain but we know we will live,I'm not sure about him,sorry to be crying on you,but I,m alone an have no one to talk to.every day I go to the hospital an sat by his side an pray 4 hours a day.
an yes I know what it is like to have TMJ pain,I have not have time to get my new teeth an they cost so much I,m afraid to use the money,so pleas write an tell me more about TMJ,what did you do for the pain.
Gerry

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One idea... new
      #191155 - 07/03/05 01:30 AM
Linz

Reged: 09/01/03
Posts: 8242
Loc: England

...I've found I swing (IBS-wise, not in my marriage! ) far less with Acacia. Maybe it's time to try a gentler SFS than Metamucil? I've been a bit unstable lately (too, too naughty ) but even now the swings aren't as bad as they used to be.

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Gerry! new
      #191175 - 07/03/05 06:07 AM
atomic rose

Reged: 06/01/04
Posts: 7013
Loc: Maine (IBS-A stable since July '05!)

It's a good thing I don't know who had the gall to tell you that you complain too much... what they deserve is a good swift (virtual) smack upside the head! Support and commiseration is indeed what this board is for. I see you've been posting a little more again, and I hope you'll stick around!

I'm so sorry to hear about your husband. My thoughts and prayers are with your family.

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Re: Gerry! new
      #191205 - 07/03/05 09:12 AM
Augie

Reged: 10/27/04
Posts: 5807
Loc: Illinois

I agree with Casey 100%!!! I personally would love to see more of your posts on this board, Gerry! You would be an asset to the board, and you already have two people in your corner!

I'm sorry about your husband. I hope you had post about this in the living room so that we could can help you out with moral support and lots of hugs!

I have gotten my feelings hurt a few times myself...and have temporarily left the boards because I felt hurt. But then I realized how much I was missing out on, and I know I tend to be overly sensitive. There are loads of very helpful, lovely, empathetic people on the boards. Maybe whomever replied to you that you were complaining too much or whatever they said, was just having a bad IBS day themselves. I know when I don't feel good, I tend to get a bit snappy...on those days I try not to reply to anyone for fear of saying something I regret! But it would have been the IBS talking, not Beth!

I hope you stick around and post much more. I've been around since Oct. and I think this is the first time I've seen one of your posts! That's too long!

Welcome back, I hope!

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Re: It's all about ME (just like a man!) new
      #191282 - 07/03/05 03:41 PM
Anthem

Reged: 10/01/04
Posts: 76
Loc: Phoenix, AZ

Gerry,

I am so sorry you are facing such physical, emotional and even spiritually challenging times. Being alone during such events is very hard. I am not a big evangelist, but in times of great challenge, a church (and its support system) can be helpful. I know it is a bit late for that now, if you have not developed that support so far. But as events improve for you, you might check that out, simply from the point-of-view of having a support system of caring people close by (if not for any spiritual support - people go to churches for various reasons).

About TMJ: The only thing beyond drugs that helps me is a heating pad. I use it every morning when I get up until the heat turns cold (about 10-15 minutes). Then I immediately do exercises for the neck, since my specialist had me go to a physical therapist who said that the muscles in the jaw can't be manipulated directly but can be stretched by neck exercises. However, if you are in great pain, this might not be a good idea.

TMJ is a terrible thing to have because so much of the treatment is NOT covered by standard medical plans because it is considered "unproven". I live in Phoenix (also a desert person). I went to the Pain Management Center here, where they prescribed a $1000 mouth guard to wear at night. I also have a mouth guard to wear in the day time when I do hikes or work out in the gym. It reduces the load on the jaw. They also gave me bio-feedback (not very helpful) and physical therapy. Of course, all of this was very expensive though. Some of the positive effects came only months after the fact. For a long time, I cursed the doctor's name at the clinic because he was very uncaring and saw each patient for about 5 minutes and then billed for another $150. But in the long run, the mouth guard has helped, and doing the exercises each day seems to help. I must NOT do any physical hard work (like lifting heavy burdens - at the gym I only use fitness machines like the little old ladies use). I also do not ever eat on that side of my mouth.

I wrote down your email address and will write later.

God bless you, and be sure to stay here and share with us. I do think there are people here who care.

Anthem

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Re: Gerry... new
      #191283 - 07/03/05 03:45 PM
Anthem

Reged: 10/01/04
Posts: 76
Loc: Phoenix, AZ

If anyone knows they grind or clench their mouth at night, it is URGENT (take it from someone who went through so much pain I was often crying into my pillow - not a normal guy thing - and wanting to die) that you see a dentist and have them evaluate the wear and tear on your teeth, and discuss the possibility of TMJ damage with them.

Grinding and clenching is the number one way you get TMJ. It builds up year after year without you realizing the damage you are doing. Then suddenly, (like me) you will be eating one night and your jaw begins to pop, and you have great pain and find to your horror that you cannot open or close your jaw.

Don't be glib about your teeth and jaw. It's like pouring a steaming pot of black coffee into your gut as an IBS person.

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Re: What is TMJ? new
      #191284 - 07/03/05 03:47 PM
Anthem

Reged: 10/01/04
Posts: 76
Loc: Phoenix, AZ

Honey, that's NOT a good sign. Waking up with headaches is a sign you are grinding/clenching a lot at night. Talk to your dentist about the damage you've done to your teeth. Hopefully, being young, it is minor. But I would urge you to get a nocturnal night guard so you don't escalate this into something horrible for which there is no easy cure, just like IBS.

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Re: What is TMJ? new
      #191285 - 07/03/05 03:56 PM
Anthem

Reged: 10/01/04
Posts: 76
Loc: Phoenix, AZ

Actually, the original intent of this thread by me was to get some viewpoints about how serious my IBS is. I realize no one can diagnose me via a forum, but I have no one else to compare it to. I realize comparison might just be a bad idea. But one person mentioned that they have mild IBS, and I just wondered how that was defined.

Some folks lament being "C", but doesn't that have to be better than "D"? With "D", you can have the urge to go every 5 minutes! Try to work or go to college that way!

I tend to have firm stools most of the time because I use Metamucil and 8 tabs of FIBERCON per day - maximum! Then for no reason, it can switch and I have "D", which (without Immodium) can last a few weeks. I now fight back mercilessly with Immodium.

Then I think I am becoming a truly bizarre person. I wonder what is normal (for a normal person) in terms of stools! Anyone have that bizarre question in mind? What do other people's stools look like? No, I don't want to see them, but I wonder if at times I/we think we are more abnormal than we are. I sat my friend down (who does not have IBS) and got down and dirty with him. I queried him as if he was a man from Mars, e.g., "What are your stools like?"

Turns out he can have major "evacuations" that are watery at times (which would send me into a tizzy of concern but he just shrugs), he has firm ones, he has shards, he has McNuggets, he occasionally has a bit of mucus...I suppose he could be an undiagnosed IBS man, but I am pretty sure he isn't. I tend to be such an absurd perfectionist, that I get mildly upset when my stool isn't a perfect burrito! Needless to say, I create a lot of stress for myself that way.

I also began taking 20 mg of Paxil 30 days ago but have yet to see any effect. One person told me to wait much longer before giving up.

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