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Re: 16 Glasses of water?!? [Part 2] new
      #188559 - 06/23/05 07:59 AM
Sand

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I really like your thinking on this, Daliatree.

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Work out the number of glasses that works for you to be peeing a very light yellow - it doesn't have to be a pedantic 16.




This seems like an excellent way to check for enough fluid consumption. Also, years ago a doctor told me that a healthy, hydrated female should be peeing every 2 hours while awake.

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I'm glad I'm normal... new
      #188561 - 06/23/05 08:04 AM
epa_ginger

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Since I definitely pee every 2 hours if not more! I drink a lot while I'm at work, partly to relieve boredom, and because it's sitting right in front of me, but at home, I don't drink as much because I'm busier, and up and about and don't want to wear a hat with a water bottle attached and a straw going to my mouth. So every hour or so, I stop, and drink a full glass of water. That also keeps me from snacking!

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Re: Nope! new
      #188572 - 06/23/05 09:16 AM
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If I don't drink lots, with IBS-D, I get muscle cramps/spasms and literally feel dehydrated. Cold fluid is the worst. Generally I stick to room temp or warm. It's quite soothing.
Seriously...sometimes my head/brain doesn't feel "right" or "clear" unless I'M HYDRATED and my electrolytes are in decent form. Sf helps to "mop" up or "sop" up the excess fluid and Immodium helps too. One thing, that I crave--fluid wise--with IBS-D is salt--naturally for the electrolytes. I use organic veg. broth as part of that fluid. Pedialyte isn't bad. Gatorade I find disgusting. Generally teas/water do it for me.

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Re: I'm glad I'm normal... new
      #188573 - 06/23/05 09:16 AM
Sand

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at home, I don't drink as much because I'm busier, and up and about and don't want to wear a hat with a water bottle attached and a straw going to my mouth.




ROFL. But on the other hand, hmmm ... Hot new summer product?

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Re: Nope! new
      #188574 - 06/23/05 09:20 AM
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I completely agree and it's obscene how much SEA SALT I use! I'm one of those "delicate flowers" too and I take everything with more than a few grains of sea salt. I find, though, that nothing is saltier than salt. When those things just don't taste salty enough I just eat the salt and take a swig of water.

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Oh, yum! new
      #188576 - 06/23/05 09:26 AM
Sand

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When those things just don't taste salty enough I just eat the salt and take a swig of water.




I lived in Saudi Arabia when I was a child and my mother used to send me back to school after lunch with a salt tablet - just salt coated in wax. I was supposed to swallow it whole, but I would just nip off a corner of the wax and let the salt dissolve in my mouth - like some strange hard candy. Until your post I'd forgotten how much I loved doing that. You're absolutely right - nothing tastes saltier than salt!

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Well said Sand... new
      #188577 - 06/23/05 09:29 AM
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...after all, this is based on personal and anecdotal evidence - it's not just dreamed up!

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So I'm a delicate flower, am I? new
      #188581 - 06/23/05 09:32 AM
Linz

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LOL. Never thought of describing myself that way before! However, today was ANOTHER day of getting dehydrated despite drinking loads (inc. electrolytes). I NEED to find a rehydration drink with no sweeteners in so I can just chug that all day - if I have much dioralyte, I get sick from the saccharin.

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Linz, seen this recipe for a safe sports drink? new
      #188592 - 06/23/05 10:15 AM
Sand

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Here's the link. Maybe it would work - you could adjust or eliminate the sugar to suit your needs.

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Research, scientific evidence, studies...
      #188593 - 06/23/05 10:18 AM
lalala

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Hi, Syl. Thanks for providing a link to this article. I did find it interesting, and it made me wish that more research was being done on water intake and IBS, not just water intake for the average, healthy adult. I tried to find additional references and studies on water intake by doing a search of medical journal databases, as well as a search of the information Heather provides on the IBS research board. Unfortunately, I just couldn't find sufficient evidence or conclusive studies regarding the effect of water intake on constipation or IBS.

The study that is cited in the article you provide doesn't do much to answer the question either. While it doesn't show that increased water intake noticeably affects BMs, it was a small study--only 15 participants, none suffered from constipation or IBS. Even the authors of the study seem wary of their results: "The authors warn that their results were obtained in healthy adults who did not complain of constipation, and that, therefore, the possibility remains that a high fluid intake might help relieve constipation in those who have it (11). However, inasmuch as the intestines have a large capacity for absorbing extra ingested water (63), the efficacy of a high fluid intake in relieving constipation needs to be proven by well-controlled scientific experiments."

Because IBS is still not fully understood by researchers or even specialists in the field, I think water intake must vary from person-to-person depending on symptoms, activity level, and thirst. I believed Heather's recommendation for increased water intake had to do with the SFS: "Together, fiber and water maintain gastrointestinal muscle tone, dilute toxic wastes in the GI tract, bind irritants, bring oxygen to the tissues, and help maintain the correct balance of intestinal flora....At a bare minimum, make sure you're drinking 64 fluid ounces (eight cups) of water each and every day, and aim for at least twice that amount. Many Americans are actually chronically dehydrated without ever realizing it, and this is a huge exacerbating factor (and sometimes even the underlying cause) for constipation. If you're on the opposite end of the spectrum and prone to diarrhea, you're at risk of losing too much water from your body too rapidly, and this can then result in dehydration. So no matter what your IBS symptoms, and whether they're flaring or in remission, please drink up!"

Like you, I would also like to have Heather explain where she got the data for this conclusion. However, I trust her recommendations because of her personal experience with IBS, her dedication, her common sense approach, and her consistency in providing references to scientific studies in her publications.

I think your questions are valid and just show how much more research needs to be done in the area of IBS.


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