There's casein in my soy cheese, am I doomed?
#187925 - 06/21/05 02:47 PM
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OK, just reread Heather's guide to foods and see that the reason we can't have dairy is the casein and whey in addition to the fat and lactose. My soy cheese that I just bought contains casein. Does this mean I should throw it out? I'm trying to eat as "well" as possible to stablize my alternating D and C. So far I never noticed dairy to be a trigger, but right now I'm eliminating all suspects. Am I doomed to not even having fake cheese now too?
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It's a case of the lesser of two evils, I'm afraid, my dear. Almost all fake cheeses contain casein and/or whey. They are dairy products, and they are considered triggers, but they are the lesser of two evils. Regular dairy is evil. Fake substitutes taste awful without the casein or whey. So, try it and do as best as you can. It may cause some gas or bloating, but it's better than real dairy. Don't throw it out. Just try it in small portions and beware. Be sure to try it after a full meal of soluble fibre as well.
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Formerly HanSolo. IBS, OCD, Bipolar, PTSD times 3.
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Thanks. I am hungry all the time these days and used to snack primarily on fruit and dairy, so without the fake cheese and crackers I don't know what else would keep me going!
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It's a treat-food for most of us. I don't buy it any more as I found it so more-ish I was eating way too much and getting gassy and crampy. 
I get extra tasty crackers that I like on their own. Or have something like houmous, tuna mayo or smoked salmon (yummy!  ) on top.
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So far I've had some each day & I'll probably continue to do so. I'm already having hummus and flatbread once a day, and tuna non/organic or wild salmon I won't eat due to the mercury level. Being pregnant I am hungry constantly and am needing to find snacks that I can tolerate. Before getting serious about the IBS diet my staples included cheese and crackers (crackers alone won't fill me up or give me enough nutrition), natural yogurt with fruit and granola, cottage cheese and salsa, bagels with cream cheese. Now I've had to revise the whole thing and I'm running out of ideas! The soy cheese is going to have to do for now- but so far I haven't reacted to it in any way that I can tell.
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Violette:
Finding snacks to eat shouldn't be difficult if you have IBS, what may be difficult, though, is finding the time to prepare those snacks. I find I can't just buy prepared food like everyone else to eat for snack. I have to make my own. However, if I invest a little time in advance preparation, I can find lots to eat for a snack. I am forced to invest this time because (in addition to having IBS) I have some blood sugar problems so I can't afford to get hungry and let my glucose level drop.
If you have time, cook some chicken breast and/or turkey breast and slice it up and keep little packages of it in the freezer for sandwiches. Perhaps someone on this board can advise whether cooked poultry needs to be heated or can be eaten cold once it has been thawed from the freezer.
I find the following items also to be good for snacks:
- mix up a couple of egg whites and add a small quantity of herbs that would go well together and that you can tolerate. Bake in oven for about 30 minutes (or until done) at 350 Fahrenheit and put it on bread for a snack later in the day. (Of course, keep the sandwich refrigerated.) I often make the egg mixture when I get up in the morning. I pop it in the oven and it's ready by the time I have finished showering. By the way, you may need to grease the baking dish a little. Use Earth Balance organic buttery spread (see below). You may also need to add a little water to the egg mixture.
- buy bread, bagels, etc. from a good Jewish bakery. Make sure the bread products are "parve" so they won't contain any milk products.
- Yehuda matzoh is a great substitute for crackers. It is made from just water and wheat flour (check the ingredients), and the flour seems to be white flour because it totally agrees with me.
-I continue to recommend Earth Balance organic buttery spread, a non-dairy (vegan) substitute for butter that contains natural ingredients that seem to be very safe and no chemicals. I have a severe case of IBS and this spread has been a godsend because it agrees with me 100 per cent!
- Bake up some of Heather's banana bread. If you want to make apple bread instead, you can substitute apple sauce for the banana and add about 1 tspn of cinnamon. If you can't tolerate sugar, then omit the sugar from the mixture. The recipe will still work. Once baked and cooled, slice the banana bread and freeze it so you can remove a slice or two at a time whenever you want some.
- If you don't have time to bake but want something a little sweet (but not too fattening), spread a little Earth Balance on bread or a bagel and put a little fruit babyfood sauce like pear sauce or apple sauce or apple/strawberry sauce on top (check ingredients to ensure the babyfood doesn't contain any additives or other junk). This is an extremely tasty treat without any added sugar!
- Invest in an insulated lunch bag/container and some freezer packs. (Places like Office Depot and Staples sell them.) Pack up your lunch bag with snacks that need refridgeration. The food will stay cool for hours. I do this whenever I am going anywhere for longer than a couple of hours or when I am travelling, including taking flights somewhere. I never go hungry because I bring tons of food in my lunch container and I find it stays cool for as long as eight hours if I pack it right with enough freezer packs.
Alas, I have to stay away from soy cheese because I cannot tolerate casein.
Belinda
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...at this stage (ie. not stable) you won't be able to tell if you tolerate the casein or not. You have to wait until you're stable to try these things and find out b/c if you're already having symptoms, how are you to tell if a food makes the symptoms continue?
If you eat chicken, you can get sliced chicken breast from the deli counter (if it's packaged, check for dairy)...and that'd be good on crackers, especially with a bit of low fat mayo. I didn't mention chicken as I don;t eat it.
Check the snack list too. There's no point being "serious" about the IBS diet if yo're going to sabotage yourself by eating triggers everyday.
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Personally I don't recommend deli counter chicken slices or any other cold cut for that matter. I find the chemicals (nitrates, etc.) in these meats are IBS triggers for me. That's why I either cook my own chicken or turkey for sandwiches or (because I live in Toronto) I buy vacuum-packed Rowe Farm turkey slices which contain naturally-raised turkey and salt and no nitrates.
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Ideas!
#188161 - 06/22/05 07:48 AM
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Linz
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Baby food! V. topical I thought. But seriously, baby food fruit and veggie pots can be so safe and yummy...and you can put them on crackers or use them as dips, etc. 
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Not everyone has trouble with deli meat. I know I'm perfectly okay with it (and, no, I'm not deluding myself). However, some people are more certainly more sensitive than others.
Just to reiterate, if you are not stable, be CAREFUL, CAREFUL, CAREFUL!
For snacks, can you do apple sauce? I ate a lot of it when I was stabilizing.
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