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Re: What is everyone's ancestry nationality?? new
      #175353 - 04/30/05 03:33 PM
Snorkie

Reged: 02/15/05
Posts: 1999
Loc: Northern Illinois, USA

I am Dutch with a little German thrown in on Dad's side. Mom's side is a melange...English, Scottish, German, French, etc. Dad, my older sister, and I all have messed up stomachs. Mom, on the other hand, has the cast iron stomach. So maybe they're on to something.

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Re: What is everyone's ancestry nationality?? new
      #175360 - 04/30/05 04:08 PM
Karen From Kansas

Reged: 07/29/04
Posts: 28
Loc: Kansas, obviously

Strange, like many of you I am mostly German ancestry with English and Irish thrown in. (Red hair and all.) It seems like there are a lot of Irish folk!

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Re: What is everyone's ancestry nationality?? new
      #175365 - 04/30/05 04:30 PM
lithelady

Reged: 08/15/03
Posts: 339
Loc: Novato, CA

I definitelty think genetics contribute but.....since most everyone in US has so many diff ancestries mixed together in them, I don't think that it'll be possible to use this ancestry thing to help people. It just won't be clearcut enuf. But I think that it's certainly worthwhile for individuals to experiment with what works for them, using HVV's diet as a starting point and then testing diff "no-no foods' to see if they personally react to them. BIG problem with this approach is, who wants to risk having pain/C or D if they're doing well on HVV's diet????

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Wow, that's unreal!! new
      #175403 - 04/30/05 09:32 PM
_Willow

Reged: 04/06/05
Posts: 2090
Loc: Canada.

So we Euros have whimpy systems, eh??? Hmmm....

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Re: What is everyone's ancestry nationality?? new
      #175419 - 05/01/05 05:15 AM
beacon1961

Reged: 02/28/05
Posts: 62
Loc: Marlton, NJ

I am German, Irish and Italiano.

Mary

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Re: What is everyone's ancestry nationality?? new
      #175420 - 05/01/05 05:23 AM
beacon1961

Reged: 02/28/05
Posts: 62
Loc: Marlton, NJ

Interestingly they credit the celiac-gluten intolerance to European background-Italians have a very high rate.

But the IBS and GI problems are all over my dad's family-He's German and Irish.

Mary

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Re: What is everyone's ancestry nationality?? new
      #175429 - 05/01/05 06:18 AM
kidsx4

Reged: 04/02/05
Posts: 35
Loc: Fairfax, VA

German and Polish....the tummy woes are strictly from the Polish side of the family. The Germans seem to be able to eat anything and everything without any trouble.

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celiac connection new
      #175435 - 05/01/05 06:53 AM
Little Minnie

Reged: 04/16/04
Posts: 4987
Loc: Minnesota

The rate of Celiac's for Irish and Italians is much higher I understand. In fact I wondered why they even bothered testing me. I am a quarter Swedish and a quarter Norwegian and half French Canadian with a little Native American on that side.

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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Katel, and all.... new
      #175509 - 05/01/05 12:51 PM
ToilettPrisoner

Reged: 02/20/05
Posts: 59


How neat is this, eh???
Had no idea so many of us were so very European-ish.
Can't be sheer coincidence although ofcource most of us Euro's ended up in countries with rich variety and fatty foods, versus ofcource Asians and many others Ethinic backgrounds that stayed relatively in their region and/or consuming their native foods only.

Our taste and eating begins in the womb.
We swallow our amniotic fluid which for the most part is actually our urine...yum...because swallowing is more practice then than eating.
But we taste our mothers meals and get some of it's bacteria in the fluid we swallow.
It's the real reason the French can love their bland (by American standards) foods whereas the Mexians can love their spicy foods.....because we grow used to our culteral flavor from the womb, we in a sence are swimming in and swallowing flavor even then.

Breastmilk really boosts that.
With each swallow we taste the flavor of every moms meal and get a big dose of the needed bacteria too, which prepares our tummy to eat the food for the next oh 100yrs or so.

It's why kids in 3rd World countries do, well somewhat ok on their uncooked dirty water meals, well because they got the needed immunity and stomach bacteria through mom. Their tummies are ready, ours are not and we get sick as dogs after one sip of their water.

The longer baby is nursed the more helpfull bacteria, immunity and tummy preparation she gets!
The fact that the USA is horrible about early weaning, forumula and early solid introduction is asking for trouble.
Formula for babies today is pretty well made...but still comes from Cow or soy.
Cows are making milk to nourish calves who'll only eat grass....therefore they give a human baby's tummy little preparation to eat our diet. They are only getting the useless bacteria needed to digest grass, that you see exit in their dark brown stools!

Weaning before 6mos, and giving solids before 4mos also aids in the problem
BUT I should add that I was nursed my first 13mos, never had solids till I was 10mos old...so you never know.
My mom tho, born in '54 was given only evaporated pure Cows milk as a baby with added sugar! *gasp* She has IBS-D off the charts most of her life!

So all your IBSers here pleeeease breastfeed your babies, I've nursed mine for 16mos so far. I wanna give her tummy it's best chance of not getting IBS!

So lol yes Katel, you are onto somethin.
But overall more research is needed, I'd love to know why I got it despite being nursed. I never even got cows milk till I was 2, and most of my childhood I had Goats milk actually.
I do agree an Asian or Meditterean diet is very good. We Americans are so on the wrong path with food! :P


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Re: Katel, and all.... new
      #175511 - 05/01/05 01:02 PM
kateL

Reged: 12/14/04
Posts: 35
Loc: Camano Island, WA

Hey, Never thought about the en Utero thing! I just know in the sixties fat babies were considered healthy babies. Breast feeding was not encouraged as much. I only was breast feed for several weeks due to my mother getting mastitis.She feed me cereal(baby goop) at four weeks. I know the digestive tracts are not fully developed for this. When I had my daughter seven years ago, she was trying to push the cereal thing on her. My daughter could only tolerate soy formula. I couldn't breast feed. My daughter seems to have a normal BM without all the fuss. Any other baby boomers have the early feeding situation? Maybe doesn't matter though since there are younger ibs sufferers.

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