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#174232 - 04/27/05 05:18 AM
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Kemi
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im confused on the fat percentage thing..i remember reading in on this website it said make sure every meal is 20-25% away from fat.does that mean that everything you eat in one meal all together has to be 25% or less?or for each ite?
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Re: confused
#174237 - 04/27/05 05:27 AM
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atomic rose
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I believe that's over all, not per item.  But be aware that fatty foods can be a trigger, even if they're "safe" and recommended (like canola oil, margarine, avocados, even salmon), so you'll want to go easy on them at first.
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I concur...
#174238 - 04/27/05 05:28 AM
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Linz
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...it's overall, which is why using canola oil in say ADBs is fine as it's a low percentage of the total food.
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uh oh..ive been going over that.oreos are ok to eat right?i didnt see any milk or anything in them and got the reduced fat kind!
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i remembered a post or an article that said IBSers total fat intake daily should be between 15%-20%?? something like that? either way, a low-fat diet is always a good way to go in maintaining
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Oreos!
#174460 - 04/27/05 01:37 PM
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(triggers are in bold)
Regular Oreos Ingredients:
Sugar, flour, hydrogenated soybean oil, cocoa, high fructose corn syrup, whey, corn starch, baking soda, salt, soy lecithin, vanillin, chocolate (cocoa powder is ok but solid chocolate is not; I'm assuming that's solid chocolate]
Mini Oreos Ingredients:
Flour, sugar, hydrogenated soybean oil, cocoa, lactose, high fructose corn syrup, corn flour, whey, corn starch, salt, baking soda, soy lecithin, vanillin, chocolate
Sorry if that ruins your treats! 
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I would guess that even reduced fat oreos would still be to high in fat for our tummies to handle... remember all that fuss with oreos and trans fats? I haven't looked at the nutrition info, so I can't be certain, but I don't know if there is a way for them to make that creamy filling without milk or dairy, and it is tough to make cookies stick together without alot of fat.
If you are in the need of a choclate fix, you should check out the board fav, Anti Depressant brownies on the recipe board, they are easy to mkae, too! 
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Re: Oreos!
#174495 - 04/27/05 02:45 PM
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Kemi
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but i have the reduced fat ones and they dont have whey in them.!why cant we have high fructose corn syrup?
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I think you need to read the diet guidelines again!  People with IBS are sensitive to fructose and HFCS is an artificial, concentrated sort...so a trigger!
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no oreos?nooo!!!!
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oh well im still gon eat em
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Yeah, that must be overall. Potato chips run around 17-20% I tend to look at the fat percentages on the packages -- if it's under 10% or so, I'm safe. If it's over, I either skip it, or it's a small treat to eat carefully with SF first.
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Re: confused
#175389 - 04/30/05 06:51 PM
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Kemi
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i thought we looked at the calories away from fat??
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Huh...I certainly haven't been eating oreos, but a dear friend with a *severe* milk allergy just told me a couple months ago that the formula for the Oreos had been changed, and now had no milk products (not just no lactose).
She's one of those who has nearly died from kissing someone who ate milk, so I know she take ingredient listings very seriously.
I haven't even looked at the Oreos packages, I was never all *that* fond of them. And, it still wouldn't solve the HFCS issue, so it's probably a moot point, but...Is that a recent package you listed?
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Hmm not sure, got that from an ingredients database on the web. I don't think I've ever *bought* a box of oreos so I wouldn't know... Sorry!
In addition to the HFCS (if it's still in there, assuming it is as it's in most cookies now, it's so cheap to make) solid chocolate is (or, at least, was) used to make the cookie part, and that can be very problematic to most IBS-ers.
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Re: Oreos!
#175577 - 05/01/05 07:02 PM
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Kemi
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you mean you can make soild choc?omg!how?!!!!what is hfcs or whatever?i dont know all these appervations.
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Solid Chocolate is hard to digest, and almost always made with milk products and high in fat.
You can still eat "chocolate" desserts that you make though, especially one's in Heather's Eating for IBS book. Cocoa powder is safe, the problem is with the cocoa butter and other milk products that are used to make solid chocolate. When you bake, you can use cocoa powder.
HFCS stands for High Fructose Corn Syrup. If you are confused about more abbreviations there is a nice list here . I see HFCS isn't not on there, but maybe someone can add it since we use it so often.
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Kemi, it's your perogative to eat whatever you want, but it makes it hard for people here to help you with your continuing IBS problems if you're not even going to follow the diet 100% for any time at all!
Just my two cents...not having a go, but are Oreoes really worth feeling cr*p?
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Linz you are 100% right.!!no oreos or no food is wroth it for that matter 
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does your body take longer to break down sugar?
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Do searches for 'fructose' and 'sucrose' and you'll get more info on why HFCS is problematic.
Basically, sucrose (regular table sugar) is not a trigger but fructose is in large amounts - which includes high fructose corn syrup, fruit juices and for some people large amounts of honey too. Fruit seems to be ok though since there is not a large amount of fructose in just whole fruit.
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Why don't you go on a mission to find a safe alternative recipe?
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for oreos?! 
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Newman-O's
#176202 - 05/03/05 12:35 PM
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zebras
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Kemi,
Have you tried Newman-O's? They are made by "Newman's Own Organics", a company founded by Paul Newman, and they taste pretty much just like Oreos (a little better I think).
The ingredients for the mint flavored ones are: organic unbleached flour, organic sugar, powdered sugar, organic palm fruit oil, canola oil, organic cocoa, cocoa (processed w/ alkali), organic unsweetened chocolate, salt, sodium bicarbonate, soy lecithin, peppermint oil.
The only trigger I can see is the chocolate. and that they have fat like most other cookies (4.5 grams in 2 cookies). Safer than Oreos, I would think. Also, Newman's cookies (type not specified) are listed on Heather's list of safe snacks; although she may be referring to a different kind of cookie. You can find these in most HFS's and some supermarkets.
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