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Re: Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Me, a 21 year old new
      #170348 - 04/16/05 12:22 PM
Stephie

Reged: 03/10/04
Posts: 2696
Loc: Vancouver, Canada

Hi again,
Okay, you CAN figure this out but you have to be open to the idea that you will have to make major changes to your diet. I know that it is hard, and that it is overwhelming, and that it sucks... But BELIEVE ME, life gets so much easier. It takes a major change in attitude, and it's hard but it's necessary... I have read some of your other posts and I totally understand how angry and upset you are, but try to remember that we are trying to HELP you.. If you don't like the advice we have to give, I understand that too.. it is hard. But if you want help, that is what we offer.

Scrambled eggs will upset you for two reasons: Egg yolks and milk. We ARE allowed to have egg WHITES, but not the yolks and milk is obviously a very strong trigger being a dairy product.

The grilled chicken should be fine. Because the scrambled eggs might have just done it, I can't be sure about the red peppers but I do know that they are hard to digest for a lot of people.

I will go check your other posts and try to help with your other questions.
--Steph

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Re: Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Me, a 21 year old new
      #170350 - 04/16/05 12:36 PM
Volatile

Reged: 03/08/05
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Thank you stephi. What about egg saled, I notice when I eat that I also feel bloated. The same thing when I eat seafood saled. Does this mean I can't eat egg saled or anything with mayonaise, why, and what can I substitute for mayonaise?
I can't eat just turkey on white bread at restaraunts all the time. I have to get something else, like spicy mustard, to flavor it or another food.

What about Beef and scallop stir fry with snow peans, carrots, and seasome sauce, AI sauce, or stir fry sacue, do those sauces cause outbreaks? Why, and what can I subsitute in.
Terkiyaki sauce? Onions?
I had another meal, Crispex with soy milk, and I still feel bloated. Is Crispex with soy milk an Irritable Bowel Syndrome trigger,and how long does it take for Irritable Bowel Syndrome symptoms to stop once I stop eating foods that do this to me?

Edited by Volatile (04/16/05 12:47 PM)

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Re: Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Me, a 21 year old new
      #170352 - 04/16/05 12:48 PM
Stephie

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Posts: 2696
Loc: Vancouver, Canada

Mayo is too high in fat - buy Ultra Loe Mayo. When you are out, a lot of places have low fat mayo if you ask for it.

Beef is red meat, too high in fat. Often recipes like that call for a lot of oil, which is also high in fat. Ask at restaurants for your food to be made in as little oil as possible.

Mustard should be fine, salsa is fine, ketchup is fine.. There are a lot of condiments that are fine.
I have to go out to work for a few hours, but will be back later and will check in on your posts.
Good luck hun,
Steph

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Re: Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Me, a 21 year old new
      #170355 - 04/16/05 01:02 PM
Volatile

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If I go to a restaraunt and order a Turkey sandwich on white bread with lettace, hot peppers, vinegar, low fat mayonaise I should be fine?

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Re: Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Me, a 21 year old new
      #170372 - 04/16/05 02:22 PM
Volatile

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Also, is it better with Irritable Bowel Syndrome to have small spread out meals instead of large ones? Would a footlong subway sandwich be too big a meal for a 21 year old?
What about tooth paste when I brush my teeth I feel bloated, has anybody had this happen. I don't know what is in this that could do that.

How about a Taco with chicken or ground Turkey, or burrito, are those fine to make?

Edited by Volatile (04/16/05 02:34 PM)

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Re: Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Me, a 21 year old new
      #170383 - 04/16/05 04:23 PM
Stephie

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Loc: Vancouver, Canada

Yes, usually eating smaller more frequent meals makes them easier to digest. Maybe buy a big sandwich, and only eat one half at a time?

I am not sure about the brushing your teeth thing... Are you swallowing a lot of toothpaste? A lot of air maybe? Hmm, dunno about that one.

I have made ground turkey tacos and they've been really good. You can also get soy cheese and soy sour cream.. some soy cheese are gross, you have to find good ones but the soy sour creams I've tried have all been awesome. Soy mozza is good to make your own pizzas too... Order a pizza with no cheese, put some soy mozza, stick it under a grill or oven or even in the microwave and voila - PIZZA.

Cheers,
Steph

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Toothpaste, weight training on the diet, and a few other things... new
      #170408 - 04/16/05 07:38 PM
retrograde

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On the toothpaste thing, do a search for that (click on "search" in the green bar at the top of this page). I believe it was just discussed not that long ago.

You've had some great responses here (especially from the goddess Steph! wow girl!) so I don't have much to add. It will seriously pay off to take an hour or so and read EVERYTHING in the diet section the site, and really familiarize yourself with the diet. You'll get to know what foods are ok and what are not so you won't have to be wondering about whether certain meals are safe.

It WILL require some major diet changes, so please be open to that. But you WILL start of feel much much better. A pretty fair trade if you ask me.

I just wanted to add a few things about your mention of weight training and trying to gain muscle. That is totally possible to do on this diet, and it also helps that it's low fat. There are lots of safe proteins: fish, chicken breast (skinless), tofu, egg whites, protein powder (NOT WHEY - but soy is great, and what I use), low-fat, dairy free protein bars like Luna (ok these are marketed to women but you can ignore that - their 'male' counterparts, Cliff Bars, are higher in fat) etc. I've found that this diet can work quite well with diets recommended for weight trainers, you just have to make sure you're getting a good SF (soluble fiber) base at each meal - the CORNERSTONE of the IBS diet!

I may not look it from my head and shoulders pic (I'm 20, female, but no not middle aged either!) but I workout quite often with pretty intense weight training and like you am looking to build muscle. (Another poster on here, e_mcmaster, also has similar goals and a similar high protein diet).

I can totally commiserate too with your compalints of working out and then getting bloated and looking like a couch potato. Before dinner I can have great abs and then bam, I look like I'm pregnant! lol But you can minimize your bloating - the diet is the first step, cutting out all the triggers, getting lots of SF etc. Go on an SFS (soluble fiber supplement - see the diet section). Try fennel tea - works wonders for bloating - and heat packs as Steph mentioned.

The alcohol - yeah, that's a tough one. I'm also in college so there are the social pressures there. As Steph outlined, some drinks in moderation can be ok from some IBS people. Not me unfortunately so I've learned to do without. It doesn't mean that I stay at home all the time though, you just learn how to (at the risk of sounding like an after-school special here), have fun without drinking. I hope I won't be offending anyone here if I also mention that there are other party-type substances you can indulge in every now and then that don't need to go through your stomach that can give you similar affects... what I'm saying is that I have, on occasion, used marijuana to actually SOOTHE my IBS. It works pretty well for me. Obviously it's not for everyone though, so I hope I'm not offending anyone here (though it is close to being legalized in Canada! )

OK hope some of that helps. I know it can be frustrating (trust me, I KNOW, we all do), You have to hang in there, and you have to make some necessary lifestyle changs - but things WILL get better. I promise

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Re: Toothpaste, weight training on the diet, and a few other things... new
      #170417 - 04/16/05 08:06 PM
Volatile

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Thanks, it is so relieving to here somebody with the same symptoms as me. I have been so mad for the last several years because I would go to the gym only to come home and in a few minutes, look like a 60 year old couch potatoe. The Irritable Bowel Syndrome has been making me, who works out the abs, look like somebody who does nothing.

I would like to get a copy of your diet, so I can try and copy it for a couple of days. I know for adding muscle you need to have peanut butter fat, protein shakes, and nutrition bars, but these I can't have with Irritable Bowel Syndrome, what substitues have you found for each of the foods?

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Re: Retrograde & Volatile new
      #170421 - 04/16/05 08:11 PM
lalala

Reged: 02/14/05
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What do your workouts consist of? Is it possible that exercising too much can cause the bloating? I used to run and work out regularly, but after every workout I'd get bloated and in the middle of my run I'd always get a D attack. I've heard of something called "runner's diarrhea," so I was wondering if excercising effects the digestive in some way. Is it the way you breathe that can cause bloating? Drinking water while working out? Is it the stress on the abdominal muscles?

Thanks for you replies!

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Re: Toothpaste, weight training on the diet, and a few other things... new
      #170423 - 04/16/05 08:14 PM
retrograde

Reged: 04/15/04
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I can't do peanut butter and I do fine without it. I do have nuts though, chopped really well they're much easier to digest, and it's a good way to get in good fats. But only 4 or 6 nuts at a time.

Like I said I use a soy protein powder (varying brands... whatever I can find cheaply, just make sure it has no egg and no artificial sweeteners) and Luna bars. Again, these are marketed to women but they have 10g protein each and are the only bars low enough in fat for me to take.

Here's what I eat on an average day:

Breakfast:
1 cup oatmeal with applesauce and chopped almonds
4 scrambled egg whites

Post-workout
Protein shake (chocolate protein powder and vanilla soy milk, with just a bit of honey)

Lunch
Homemade soup (beans, veggies, potato and chicken broth), slice bread, banana for dessert

Snack
Luna bar

Dinner
Salmon, other fish or chicken with pasta, sweet potatoes or rice and some safe veggies cooked (i.e. carrots, beets, zucchini - vegetable tolerances vary from person to person, but just make sure they're well cooked), baked pear or apple for dessert

Snack
Usually more oatmeal, or other cereal with soy milk, or sometimes a bagel with a teeny bit of almond butter (when I have it in the cupboards, which is rarely)

You can also check out the fitness boards to see what others eat on a daily basis (as I mentioned, look for posts by e_mcmaster too). Or if you want you can check out my fitday public journal: http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=retrograde (today wasn't the best of days though, but check out previous days)

Hope that helps

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