Can you all list your personal triggers??
#168793 - 04/11/05 12:24 AM
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I'd love to compare and even learn from your list.
I also ask because I am still convinced dairy and meat are NOT a trigger for me, or if they are it is mild.
Anyone else not have those 2 as triggers?
Now keep in mind I've only had IBS for nearly 2yrs and only known what the heck it was for half that.
But my triggers seem to be:
Adrenaline mostly from anexiety
Coffee (I can kinda tolerate caffeine in tea and choclate)
Carbonated drinks especially on empty tummy
Anything spicy
Too much fat...like fast food or Restraunt food
Atrificial sweetners
Eating too much/too fast/talking while eating
Eating too little! Ugh
And then the odd occurance of THINKING about IBS and/or thinking I'm getting an attack! Argh!
Thats my triggers I know of so far.
I have ofcource mild triggers and then those tense or hormonal days when everything seems to be a trigger most of all my dang brain!
(sorry for my lazy spelling, I type too fast)
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I THINK my triggers are
milk, ice cream, cheese, greasy/ fatty food, coffee, pasta, hamburger or anything that wasn't cooked in my own house unless it is packaged. I eat but I always regret eating.
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Okay!
#168797 - 04/11/05 01:37 AM
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Linz
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This is gonna get repetitive tho! Remeber that even tho you might have a higher tolerance to some triggers than other IBS-ers, it is still very important to cut them out until you're stable or you may never get there!
Mine are...
- IF.
- dairy (although I can now tolerate occasional foods with casein or whey in them).
- overeating.
- going too long without food.
- anything cold (it's take me AGES to eat a teeny portion of soy "ice cream" as I take mini mouthfuls that can melt completely before they leave my mouth!).
- artificial sweeteners.
- carbonated drinks (although I can now have an occasional beer, I prefer to let even that go flat!  )
- MSG (although I can now tolerate occasional foods with it in).
- coffee and caffeine (tho caffeine alot less).
- REALLY high-fat or greasy foods...I have a much higher tolerance to fat than most IBSers (but kept to very low-fat while I was stabilising).
I don't eat meat and would never had considered eating artificial fats so those aren't on my list. Anything I've missed?
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Like Linz said, though - although personal tolerances vary, it's VERY important when you're trying to get stable to cut out ALL the trigger foods, including ones that don't seem to bother you... there'll be plenty of time to try reintroducing those things once you're stable.
Here goes:
Dairy
Anything even remotely high in fat, oily, greasy
Caffeine, esp. coffee
Restaurant food, most likely because of item #2
Artificial sweeteners
Peanut butter
Red meat/dark meat poultry, if I eat too much of it
Stress
Not getting enough sleep
Other physical illness (colds, flu, etc)
Overeating, esp. in the morning
Not snacking enough during the day
Not enough exercise
Too much exercise
My stability is a lot more dependent on my routine than my food choices. But I'm still careful to not eat *much* of an IBS trigger food - now and then as a treat, NOT every day, and in small amounts, well cushioned with SF.
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I'm still sick a lot but I know for sure that
Alcohol-2 sips will have my belly churning and multiple loo trips.
Fat-a big greasy pizza or mc donalds also have me off to the loo for a long time.
Stress-boy oh boy, this is the worst thing for me. I suffer a lot of it and it always makes me ill.
Anxiety-goes hand in hand with stress.
Red meat-I can have some but if I ate a meat pie at lunch and a roast lamb for dinner then I get twisting pains.
Chocolate-again, like alcohol, 2 pieces and I'm in major pain. I seem to do okay with cocoa though.
It doesn't seem to matter how much coffee I drink or whether or not I have dairy, I don't feel any better off them but I think I may have a problem with lactose. Likewise with cold food. Not a problem for me. Hope this helps (or interests you )
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Fat and grease!
red meat
chocolate
dairy, especially fatty dairy, but occassionally I have some low fat dairy in things (small amount)
going too long without eating
eating too much at one time
certain IFs are a big problem- eating nuts alone, melons, too many berries
heat and humidity especially if gardening- I churn a lot when gardening
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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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Hmmm, let's see:
dairy
too little IF compared with SF (I get D)
too much IF compared with SF (I get C)
carbonated beverages
spicy food (maybe this just gives me indigestion)
coffee and caffeine
artificial sweeteners
stress (Horse shows bring on the D!! And there are often
only port-a-johns, and not very many of them!  )
I don't know about really greasy, high fat food - I haven't eaten much of it in years; likewise red meat.
Thanks for starting this thread...I'm getting ideas from other people's lists...Definitely some things I hadn't thought about that may be triggers.
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my worst ones are:
alcohol
red meat
fatty dairy
really greasy food
MSG
getting too hungry
Not so much stress related ones for me, they give me a slight pain but not an attack
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I've only been diagnosed for about 2 months. My triggers used to bother me only every great once in awhile. Now, they are bound to be triggers about 95% of the time if I eat them. Here goes:
Beef, no matter how lean (But venison (deer) doesn't bother me at all)
Cheese
Mandarin oranges
Milk
Ice Cream
Cheese
Fatty pork (bacon included)
Chicken w/ skin
Mandarin oranges
Tomato sauce
Kidney beans
Mayonaise
Insoluble Fiber
Green tea
Anxiety (usually because I'm anxious about having an attack)
Oh, yes, and Aunt Flo. This is also the only time any amount of chocolate bothers me. Not being able to eat chocolate on my period...grr...makes a Snorkie even grumpier!
Beef used to bother me only once in awhile. That started changing last fall. Milk or ice cream on an empty stomach has been bad news for about as long as I can remember. Same with orange juice or coffee on an empty stomach, but they used to be okay if I had something else in my stomach. Haven't had orange juice, coffee or a carbonated beverage since January, so I'm not positive they are triggers but I've not felt stable enough to experiment.
Edited by Snorkie (04/11/05 10:41 AM)
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MSG- horrible reaction , i know as soon as I have had it
anxiety, stress
alcohol
caffeine, coffee
carbonated drinks
too much fat
spicy/ acidic food
not enough sleep
period
green IF- salad, broccoli
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Microscopic Colitis, IBS-A, GERD, Hiatal Hernia
Bethany, Ontario, Canada
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It seems I am finding new triggers every week!
Eating too much is a major one!
Dairy, Mayonaise in small amounts doesn't bother me that bad
Fast Food, even grilled chicken Sandwiches
High Fat Foods are murder!
Soy Smoothies
Yellow Rice
Dark Meat Poultry
Salami, Bologna
Coffee
And my infamous Menstrual Cycle (Does anyone have any advice how to ease this time)
It seems The list just keeps growing. I'll be glad when i get this thing under complete control. I miss Ice Cream desperately!
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Re: trapley
#168918 - 04/11/05 11:04 AM
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michele
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I know many of us have a harder time with our IBS when we get our periods! I used to be on the pill and would "piggy back" my pills so I would only have a couple of periods a year. If you take the pill ask your dr about this!
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I KNOW stress is probbaly my biggest trigger!
Clothes that are too tight!
Not exercising enough
Heat/humidity
Eating too much
Getting to hungry
high fat foods
Loud environments
Hormones!!
Anxiety
Lack of sleep
Those are the big ones I can think of right now. My IBS seems to have a mind of its own and gets upset a lot of no apparent reason!! 
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Re: trapley
#168923 - 04/11/05 11:22 AM
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trapley
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I will, I am currently on the Patch and it has helped cramping. But alot of times, I feel terrible during my cycle, I actually have to take at least 2 advil because my legs and feet swell during that time.
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This will probably be quite repetitive at this point but here goes (pretty much in order of severity):
Foods...
Dairy (anything and everything, even teeny tiny amounts)
Anything greasy or high fat (red meat, fats, egg yolks etc.)
IF (especially raw veggies (can't touch em), and less so in whole grains)
Alcohol (only takes a few sips)
Onions, peppers, corn, broccoli, tomatoes - even cooked - as well as any citrus fruits
Artificial sweeteners, HFCS
Cold water or other drinks (anything I drink is pretty much always lukewarm, heh) - or really chugging any liquids at all
Anything carbonated
Caffeine (don't drink coffee but decaf regular tea is usually ok for me)
Lifestyle...
Not eating often enough
Eating too much at one sitting
Lack of sleep
Stress
Not getting enough exercise
First few days of my period (always get D, no matter what)
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Here are mine: (Casey, I copied your format a bit since our triggers are so similar)
Milk, most dairy products
Anything even remotely high in fat, oily, greasy
Caffeine, esp. coffee
Peanut butter, almond butter, soynut butter
Tortilla and all fried chips
MSG
Alcohol
Whole grain bread
Jam that is not seedless
Pie (the crust is evil)
Coconut
RAW VEGGIES...evil...
Non food triggers:
Stress
Not getting enough sleep
Other physical illness (colds, flu, etc)
Menstruation
Emotions (anger, etc.)
Anything with aspertame
** See Beth, I have LOTS of triggers!  **
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I haven't discovered if it's the fake sugars yet.... but all of those otherwise, and it's so true that on an empty tummy a SF is the key. Whoa, I had a waffle with an itty bitty bit of Becel(the HEALTHY margarine) and I instantly cramped up. Of course, i had a barium swallow too, today, but this was immediate.
I'm trying drinking my water from a straw because I get fewer air bubbles that way. i also never drink my tea too hot to avoid slurping. I have a real complex about gas- lucky that I have IBS, eh? 
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Tina's list reminded me of a few...
Alcohol
Any cold or allergy medicine EXCEPT Benadryl
Any painkiller EXCEPT Tylenol
Yep, menstruation... gotta love hormones...
I only mentioned stress, but any extremely negative emotion (upset, anger, anxiety, etc) will trigger me.
I'm lucky that I can handle just about any vegetable cooked and an increasing number raw. But I still can't do green peppers, no matter how well cooked, and this isn't IBS-related per se, but I can't eat oregano (it repeats on me for a week... no joke!).
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I'm IBS-D, sometimes I have problems with gas.
Food
dairy (including lactose, whey, casein)
red meat
sandwich/lunch meat
high fat/deep-fried food
fruit juices (except cranberry juice)
egg yolks
whole wheat
granola
raw veggies
watermelon
carbonated beverages
caffeinated beverages
over-eating
lettuce
Spices
nutmeg
black pepper
chili powder
dried herbs (I do okay with fresh herbs that are cooked)
Additives
carrageenan (usually added to soy products that are dairy alternatives)
MSG
artificial sweeteners
Other
vitamin C
multi-vitamins
excercising too much (ever heard of "runner's diarrhea?")
lack of sleep
stress, anxiety
menstrual cycle
gum
not drinking enough water
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STRESS!!!
Red Meat!
Fatty foods
Fried foods
Not drinking enough water!
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I'm confused.
*sigh*
I haven't given up dairy yet.
Infact I probably have something of it daily, I even drink full glasses on non fat milk.
Stress and hormones are deffiantly my main trigger.
I'd probably control my diet more if I were more in need of dealing with stress. But as a SAHM and I go out maybe twice a week, although with Spring warming thing up here in the frozen North then I get to go out walking more.
I still often splurge on the no no foods.
If I do, I do so only at home when relaxed, never on an empty tummy and usually with a tall glass of Peppermint/Fennell tea afterwards.
In the past I have gone on milk strikes and not seen a huge difference.
It's the cost tho that halts it.
My hubby gets 7gallons of milk free thru assistance, he refuses to buy the soy or whatever other type milk.
He also hates buying fish for me instead of meat. We get free check for a local butcher where we can pack our freezer with every kind of red meat imanginable!
But I do admit I feel better after a nice dinner of fish than of hamburgers or porck chops.
So HOW do you all afford this stuff????
And why do you think I din't have as many strong triggers besides ofcource stress.
Honestly there are few things I can say with certainity will give me IBS.....like coffee guranteed'll do it, high fat foods like donuts or KFC. But my list is not as long as yours.....or am I in denial?? 
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I can still do dairy and some of the other no no's. I think everyone is differant. you learn how and what you can or can't eat and when an attack is coming. Stress is a huge one for most of us.
As for how do I affored this I just try to limmit what I buy and look for deals. I do use soy milk because I have always had a problem with just straight milk. I also use ground turkey instead of red meat and I use egg beater. The only other thing I buy differant is my Luna bars and my tea's. I also noticed the first few trips to the store where the most expensive after that it all is about the same.
Hugs
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#168996 - 04/11/05 03:21 PM
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Stephie
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Hi there,
A lot of mine are what other people have said, but here goes anyway!
-Deep fried food
-Pork
-Spicey food
-Apple juice is a huge one for me
-Brocolli
-Anti-biotics
-Stress
-Not enough sleep
-Popcorn
-Coffee
-Milk
-Sorbitol
-too much onions/garlic.. but smaller amounts are fine.
-cauliflower
Hmm, if I think of more I will add them later!
Hope this helps!
--Steph
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IBS-D,pain.
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*Any dairy what so ever
*Lactose and caisen
*Fatty foods
*Nuts
*Marinara sauce
*High Fructose Corn syrup (which sucks, because it's in everything)
*Eating too much
*Waiting too long to eat
*Stupid period...
*It's soy delicious turtle tracks one
*margrine
*something my boyfriend made me, but he made chicken, potatoes and green beans, i've had all again except the chicken...so maybe chicken! i wont eat it anymore!
*alcohol
*caffine
*carbination (sometimes crystal guiser -spelling?- i can get away with
*chips
*quacamole 
well the list goes on...and on...and on...but thats all the trigges that seem to really get me....
to make a long anwer short.....ABOUT 93% OF EVERYTHING IN THE GROCERY STORES!
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I'm on a very restricted budget and I do fine with this diet. Soy milk is my splurge but the rest I can buy very cheaply - staples are cheap (bread, potatoes, pasta...) which is nice. Now I don't get free milk or meat but in the stores big bags of frozen fish and chicken are cheaper than most cuts of meat (especially if you catch them on sale and buy TONS!) I also save money because going out for me rarely involves buying food any more - I always bring something from home which is invariably cheaper.
I wouldn't assume to know your condition better than you but I'd be inclined to say try at least two weeks or so (instead of just a few days) of cutting out ALL the triggers - dairy, red meat, high fat, etc. and see how you do. You can't really know if these things *aren't* triggers for you unless you give it a good week or two or three of cutting them out. Then be sure to reintroduce them ONE BY ONE so you know which are ok for you and which are not (i.e. don't have a ham sandwich with cheese and mayo - if it triggers your IBS, you can't be sure if it's the meat or the cheese or the mayo!)
Some people can tolerate some of the triggers yes - but I'd wager that very very few of them got 'stable' without cutting them out first until they were stable.
Explain to your husband that this is a *health* condition and that eating these foods is (or might be) making you SICK. Show him this site maybe. I would hope that he would understand.
I can completely commiserate with the need to eat low-budget, but personally I'd maintain that it's very easy to eat cheaply on this diet. Besides supplements (which, I would say, are secondary to the diet - maybe excluding a good SFS) there are no expensive, specialty foods on this diet that are necessary. Soy milk is optional - you can do with out it. I've never had milk my whole life and I've just started having soy milk these past few years.
Anyway, hope that helps.
PS You mentioned the frozen north - Canadian? 
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That's odd as fresh herbs are listed as insoluble fiber, so I would think dried herbs would be safer?
Do others use fresh or dried? Which is safer?
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Constipation, pain prodominent,cramps, spasms and bloat!
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I know a lot of mine, and some of mine are weird...
*dairy (though I can have casein in rice cheese and be ok)
*meat (I'm a vegetarian now, practically a vegan)
*anything high in fat
*almonds
*caffeine
*alcohol
*sorbitol or any other wood alcohol sugars
*whole wheat
*raw fruits and veggies
*broccoli and cauliflower
*anything spicy (it does not help having a boyfriend from Houston sometimes!)
*stress
*not getting enough sleep
*soy (except for some reason, soy sauce is ok...)
*heat/humidity
*carbonation
*eating too much in one sitting
*not getting enough IF
*not drinking enough water
I think that's most of them....I'm IBS-A, btw.
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I don't know why that is!  Maybe dried herbs are more potent and I just add too much? I'm lazy and don't measure things out...so...PROBLEMS! Also, I'm IBS-D, so maybe that makes me more sensitive to the dried herbs?
I thought IF was okay as long as you had SF first or combined it with an SF. For example, if I have pasta and add in a little bit of chopped fresh basil I don't have a problem with it. I avoided IF when I was "breaking the cycle," but I feel I'm pretty much stable so I can incorporate more IF with my food. According to Heather, "You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." So, that's what I've been trying to do.
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when eating a SF with veggies, that the fresh herbs would be too much added insoluble in addition to the veggies. And I'm a C! I would much prefer fresh herbs, but the dried are more convenient and the fresh go bad so quickly and I only cook for one, so wouldn't use the whole package anyhow.
I would be interested to here if others have a problem with dried herbs??? Maybe that is part of my problem? I don't know. Seems like a lot of the recipes on the board call for dried herbs, or am I wrong?
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Constipation, pain prodominent,cramps, spasms and bloat!
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Isn't it frustrating how unique IBS is to each person? I mean, we share general triggers in common, like high fat foods and alcohol, but even they vary! It seems a cure would be easier to find if the cause was understood better.
I know what you mean about the fresh herbs--they cost more too! I usually just cook for myself as well, so I don't buy them that often. I'm not the greatest cook so I haven't tried many of the recipes on the board. When I do follow a recipe, I tend to omit certain herbs and spices because I like my flavors a little simpler (which is just personal preference, not necessarily IBS-related).
What kind of IF are you able to tolerate? It seems like this diet is much more difficult for IBS-Cers to manage. I don't understand how you figure out triggers if you don't have an attack like I do with D (I almost immediately know when something hasn't agreed with me).
I hope someone else has some info they could share about dried herbs!
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My triggers are similar to lots of you with IBS - D. Here goes:
Caffein - in the worst way!
Broccoli - it is the vegetable of the devil!
Carbonated beverages
Animal fat (I can handle veg/olive oil in moderation)
Raw vegetables and some raw fruits
Ice cream
Stress
My period (more attacks in days right afterwards)
That would be the big ones on the list...
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Even if you figure that dried herbs and fresh are BOTH still insoluble, there's rarely enough in a recipe to give anyone a problem... unless you're extremely sensitive, like Maria, or if you're a weirdo like me and have one or two herbs that you absolutely CANNOT have (I can't eat oregano, even in tiny quantities).
Herbs and spices are practically a necessity for IBS cooking - the food would be ridiculously bland without it. Even when I was completely unstable, I used them with wild abandon without any problems.
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My triggers are very similar to others posted
Anything creamy or dairy
Strawberries, oranges (strawberries ok if blended in smoothies)
Any raw vegetables (in sandwhich are usually ok because of the bread)
broccoli
coffee and alcohol and of course cigarettes
Eating too much in general or stress
And always in the morning no matter what
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You can always tried ground herbs also. Ground ginger, rosemary, onion powder, garlic powder, and pureeing in the blender any other herbs that you particularly like. Or break them up and grind them with a mortar and pestle.
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so far:
eggs (unless they are baked in something)
ice cream
guacamole (my favorite thing in the world)
beans
fattening food
eating too much at one sitting (I have no self control)
too much garlic or onion
caffeine
broccoli and cauliflower
mushrooms big time
pumpkin seeds
popcorn
Probably a lot of other things that I refuse to acknowledge
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