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thyroid problems new
      #164416 - 03/27/05 08:24 AM
Augie

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You mention that the classic blood test for thyroid problems are not always conclusive. My TSH came back okay, but in my gut I feel that I have a problem with my thyroid.I have all the classic symptoms: hair loss, fatigue, weight gain, etc. Plus, it runs in my family.

My doctor is taking my TSH blood test as the only definitive answer that I do not have a problem. Do you know what other test could determine if the thyroid is a problem?

I have read where the blood tests cannot always be an inclusive indicator, but I don't know what other way there is to determine.

Thanks!

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LOL-yes, like a bad hair cowlick! new
      #164419 - 03/27/05 08:29 AM
Augie

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Yes, why should my GI system be any different than me! I am a pretty stubborn person!

I just assumed that everyone must have some triggers and that the only way to get the IBS under control is to figure out what they are. When the person posted that squash made his tummy awful, I immediately became suspect of my eating squash.

Don't we all have some triggers?

And how the heck can you live without squash? I love it in every type! Pumpkin, butternut, etc!

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I am scared of food new
      #164422 - 03/27/05 08:34 AM
Augie

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in general. When I don't seem to be able to get better, I just figure I must be eating something that is not agreeing with me. So, every time I read about someone having a problem with a particular food, I worry about it's effect on me.

I am eating pretty much the same food for breakfast and lunch because I am trying to eat simply and expand slowly. Since I wasn't getting anywhere with eating different foods, I thought it might help to reduce to a type of elimination diet. Problem with this is if a problem food is included in the elimination diet, I will never experience relief because I am eating it everyday.

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Re: thyroid problems new
      #164424 - 03/27/05 08:36 AM
Linz

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I *think* that the regular test usually checks for T4, but the free T3 levels need to be checked out too. Your body can have enuogh of one type but not be converting it into other types properly so you can still have a problem. I'll do some more research. It could well be worth asking your doc EXACTLY which hormones were tested for.

Have you considered CFS or Fibro?

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Thanks, Dr. Linz new
      #164433 - 03/27/05 08:48 AM
Augie

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You definately should be awarded an honorery degree in nut health sciences!

Yes, I also suspect Fibro very highly as I have many, many of those symptoms. When I was reading the posts on Fibro, I had like 10 of the symptoms that were listed. I definitely need to get a doctor who is going to take all this seriously. I just don't know how to go about finding one from a list of names off the companies insurance covered approved list! Someone who knows about Fibro, IBS, Gluten intolerance, GERD, and possibly thyroid or ovarian cancer, which someone suggested must be ruled out. I had a gyno exam, and he said my ovaries were okay, but don't know if that would show cancer. I don't know if I had the bloodwork for this done eihter.

I need to ask my current GI to take the Thyroid and ovarian cancer possiblilities seriously. But perhaps this is beyond his specialty. I need a good general practioner.

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Thyroid thread new
      #164451 - 03/27/05 09:59 AM
Sand

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Check out this thread for more info on thyroid problems.

Your GI guy is not the right doc for thyroid. At a minimum, you need a GP or Family Practice physician who can do the whole series of tests. At best, you need an endocrinologist. My endocrinologist does: TSH, T3, T4, and T3 Uptake regularly and did a whole slew of other tests when we were still in the diagnostic stage. Take a look at one of the books mentioned in the thread I referenced above.

Your GI guy is also not your best line of defense on ovarian cancer. Here I'm not too knowledgeable, but my understanding is that if your gyno did an exam, that's your best test. If you're unsure, call your gyno's office, tell him you've been tentatively diagnosed with IBS and that you know you must rule out ovarian cancer, and ask him if the exam(s) he has done are sufficient to do that. If you're young and if you have been suffering from IBS symptoms for a while (rather than having a sudden onset), he'll probably think you're a worrywart, but do it anyhow for your own peace of mind.

I already gave you my thoughts on finding a new doctor - I'm sorry none of them panned out for you. I'm lucky to have a very good Family Practitioner and Endocrinologist, and I have high hopes for the GI guy I saw last month - it's still too soon to be sure about him. He's one of the GIs who can prescribe Lotronex and it occurred to me that looking for GIs who can do that might be a way to find a good one, but I haven't been able to find a list of them on the Web. Maybe somebody else can.

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Re: My Reservations About The Diet (please comment!) new
      #164459 - 03/27/05 10:54 AM
Kandee

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Interesting post!
Quote:

I am posting this in the hopes that you all will have answers to some of the questions this diet raises for me. I'm about to raise several issues here and perhaps they'd be better as separate threads, but...

I have severe (on disability, sleep a few hours a night b/c of pain, etc.) IBS-C, with intense pain and cramping and ridiculous amounts of gas/bloating. This all started after a severe episode of amoebic dysentary and parasites while I was living in Asia six years ago. Also now dealing with CFIDS and FMS. I'm sorry. Having IBS AND CFIDS and FMS is not easy.

1. Processed foods: everything I know about nutrition (which is a fair amount) tells me that the more processed a food is, the more unhealthy it is. Several of the foods (including "staples" like bread, crackers, etc.) are highly processed (and could make my CFIDS and FMS much worse). Sugar is beyond debate in terms of its health destroying properties. How do you all reconcile this?

I know what you mean. It is hard at first to resign yourself to the fact that to be void of pain with eating you must base your meals around a food that is considered high in soluble fiber and often lacking in the nutrients our bodies need, BUT that does not mean you have to avoid all foods that are nutritionally dense. It just means you have to be cautious about the type and form they are in.

From what I know about Fibro and CFS, which is very little--Linz is the expert here----avoidance of wheat can be helpful, in which case there are a host of food that you can eat besides just rice cakes. Look for things made from high protein wheat alternatives....quiona and amaranth and teff are some. Can you tolerate oats? Also, with IBS and Fibro dairy avoidance is a must, but you already know that.


2. Protein: my doc wants me on 80+ grams of protein/day to increase energy (I'm male, active, 170 lbs.) I'm allergic (ELISA test) to soy and egg whites, and can't tolerate beans/legumes at all. Too much fish/chicken triggers me. I'd like to do protein shakes but wonder what options I have that have no whey or soy.

Rice and Pea protein powders are as high in protein as whey or soy powders and make a nice base for fruit smoothies or mixed with a rice or nut milk.

3. Constipation vs. pain/spasm/gas: eating a lot of bread, rice and SF foods reduces pain/spasms/gas but makes me MORE constipated. Eating cooked veggies, oils, etc. improves BMs but triggers pain/spasms/gas. Has anyone else had the same experience? What have you done about it?

For me, besides this diet there are 2 other things I include with every main meal. One is digestive enzymens, another is a probiotic (or homemade DF kefir). Fats, even oils are a main trigger for me not to mention I don't have a gall bladder so don't process fats well anyway. I keep the amount of cooked veggies and fruits as high as I can, always adding a SF before or during consuming those. I also take a SFS before eating, and at night a triple dose of psyllium (Konsyl) plus stool softeners and an apple pectin tab. All that amounts to around 25-35 g. of fiber which is what my body needs. Being hypothyroid I'm also a "C" and so need as much fiber as I can get. I DO NOT avoid antispasmodics altogether and take a Bentyl when I eat out or before eating what I know will be a large meal, thus taking "as needed" but not all the time because it has a tendency to make one "C" as well.

4. Vitamins/minerals/nutrition: My gut is so sensitive right now that I can't tolerate any fruits and vegetables except sweet potatoes, bananas, papayas. That's pretty good, better than some people. I'm concerned I'm not getting the health benefits of eating fruits and veggies. What about "green foods" powders/supplements? Any other solutions? If green foods (powdered supplements) are dairy free and HFCS free and you consume them AFTER some bread or rice I don't see where you'd have a problem.

Have you tried juicing? Many with IBS can tolerated mixed veggie or fruits juiced as long as they have some SF on their tummy first.


Thanks for your help. I really want my life back. Oh, and we want you too as well. Good luck..it's a matter of trial and error, and we're all a little different with what we can tolerate. Kandee





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Book, Bland new
      #164466 - 03/27/05 11:22 AM
Sand

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You're quite welcome for the article. I'd still recommend the book, though - believe it or not, it's funny. I figure anyone who can write a book on the enteric nervous system and make me laugh is both very brilliant and just a little bent - my kind of author. Plus the picture of Dr. Gershon on the dust cover is worth the price of admission by itself.

I was sorting through my bookmarks from this Website, trying to figure out why the heck I'd saved some stuff and found this thread about eating bland or what to do when you're sick of eating "what to eat when you can't eat anything". I thought it might give you some ideas.

I just read Kandee's reply to your original post. She's quite something, isn't she?

If your problems are caused by something other than IBS - or in addition to it - I hope you are able to discover what that is and treat it successfully. If IBS is part or all of your problem, then I hope this plan helps you as much as it's helped me. Whatever path is the right one for you, I, too, hope you get your life back - soon.



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Re: question about sugar?? new
      #164472 - 03/27/05 11:40 AM
daliatree

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as a nutritionist and naturopath I absolutely agree with you...absolutely...sugar has moved from being a condiment to being a whole food in our society and its awful!!

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Re: I kind of agree... new
      #164475 - 03/27/05 11:53 AM
daliatree

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yep - the white stuff kept my gut more quiet, but much more C and my moods swings and lethargy were terrible...awful...

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