Helpful Hint: Buy a Breadmaker!
#12 - 01/23/03 06:32 AM
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My breadmaker is my favourite appliance in my kitchen. They have really come down in price the past few years. I mix up the dry ingredients (ie. flour, sugar and salt etc.)and store them in ziploc bags in my pantry. Then, it only takes a minute to throw it all into the breadmaker. The result- yummy, SAFE fresh bread all the time. Use the white bread recipes that call for water, and then simply eliminate the milk powder if it's called for. The bread turns out just fine. I'm also into making bagels and French Bread in the breadmaker on the dough cycle, then shaping and baking them in the oven. Yum!
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Formerly HanSolo. IBS, OCD, Bipolar, PTSD times 3.
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Hey Han - I never thought of saving the dry igredients like that. Really smart!! I'm probably going to be making a whole lot more bread now.
Thanks
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You Go Bob! I figure if I have to measure out 1 batch, it only takes another minute to do some more more since all the ingredients/measuring stuff is there. Saves time later. Maybe we can swap some recipes on the recipe board!
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Han - there are two books called "Electric Bread" put out by I.C.E., Inc. (Innovative Cooking Enterprises) in Anchorage, Alaska. These are the greatest books for breadmakers. My friends love to come over because I always have a different loaf of bread for them. I believe these books are available in bookstores and if you can't find them there, probably are available online. Here are just a few titles:
Apple oat, apricot, baked potato, carrot, certainly citrus, challah, chocolate cherry, cinco de mayo, fall harvest, garden herb, garlic, honey mustard, kulich, light rye, luscious luau, maraschino pecan, saucy apple (really good), sourdough white, tangy cranberry, tabouli, swedish limpa. The list goes on. One of everyone's favorites is Bleu Cheese Port. Guess I'm going to have to find soy bleu cheese. Does anyone know if it's available?
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Sharon
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I don't own a bread maker, but maybe i'll get one for my birthday, you've sold me hansolo.
I do have a slow cooker though, that's my favorite kitchen toy right now, I just throw
in my ingedients in the morning before work (I chop them and prepare them the night before) and after
school i get to come home to a fresh, delicious, hot meal. yum... 
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Thanks, Sharon! I will see if I can get them - I'm Canadian so I might need to get them on-line. They sound fabulous. Can't wait.
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Formerly HanSolo. IBS, OCD, Bipolar, PTSD times 3.
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I found a product call Pure Soy Quik. It is powder soy milk and is made by ERER G. I bought it to try it as a substitute for powder milk in bread recipes. I haven't tried it yet, but I will let you know how it works.
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I don't have any prize winning recipes, but would like to try yours if you have some good ones. I think the recipes are supposed to be traded on the Recipe Exchange board though, so if you have some I will look there. 
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I'd love it if you'd share some IBS-safe slow cooker recipes on the Recipe Exchange Board, I have a slow cooker but I don't use it because I don't quite know what to do with it!
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Tess - A few years ago I went into our local Barnes and Noble Bookstore's cooking section and found 3 really good crockpot cookbooks. One is "Easy Home Cooking Slow Cooker Recipes" by Publications International Ltd copyright 1997 ISBN:0-7853-2390-2. Two reasons I like this one is because at the end of every recipe they have nutritional analyses and the other reason is that some of the recipes are great. I'll share one with you right now.
Pork Stew (you can substitute chicken for pork)
2 tsp oil or cooking spray
3 lbs. fresh pork tenderloin or turkey or chicken
2 med white onions, thinly sliced
3 cloves garlic, minced
1 tsp salt
1 tsp ground cumin
3/4 tsp oregano leaves, dried
1 can (8 oz.) tomatillos, peeled, drained and chopped (save liquid to add later)
1 can (4 oz.) diced green chilies
1/2 c chicken broth, FF (fat free)
1 large tomato, peeled and chopped
1/4 c fresh cilantro chopped
2 tsp lime juice
4 c hot cooked rice (any kind)
Heat 1 tsp oil or cooking spray in lg skillet over med ht. Add meat, cook 5-10 min til browned on all sides. Remove and set aside. Heat 1 tsp oil or cooking spray in skillet. Add onions, garlic, salt, cumin and oregano. Cook and stir 2 min or until veg soft.
Combine meat mixture and remaining ingredients except rice in slow cooker. Mix well. Cover and cook on LOW 5 hrs or until meat is tender and barely pink in centers. Serve over rice. MAKES 10 servings.
If you make it, let us know how it turned out. That page in my book is marked "wonderful!". I also added sliced mushrooms.
The other books are Sunset Crockery Cookbook, Sunset Publishing Co., Menlo Park, CA, eighth printing Nov. 1999. ISBN 0-376-02224-8.
Better Homes and Gardens all-time-favorite Crockery cooker meals, Better Homes and Gardens Books, Des Moines, Iowa, ISBN 0-696-21001-0 or Better Homes and Gardens Books, Cookbook Editorial Dept. 1716 Locust St., Des Moines, Iowa 50309-3023.
Good luck! 
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Sharon
"Anything Chocolate"...that is all!
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Thank you SO MUCH--that is exactly the kind of info I wanted--cookbook suggestions from someone who has read the books and recipes from someone who cooks ! I'll certainly have to try the stew with chicken. Thanks again.
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Sharon, Try contacting Trader Joe's at 1-800-7467857 or on line at www.traderjoe's.com for the soy blue cheese. If anyone would have it would be that store!
Marianne 
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Marianne - thanks, but there's only one Trader Joe's near where I live and that 1.5 hrs away in Modesto, CA. I go every month or so and hve found things there that I can't any where else. Thanks again. 
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Sharon
"Anything Chocolate"...that is all!
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Hi HanSolo:
I just bought a breadmaker. Was tired of having to go to the supermarket bakery for french bread every other day! Just tried my first loaf last night and while it tasted as good as the store bought - the bread turned out so dense! I would love to try making the dough in the machine and shaping and baking in the oven as you suggested. Since I am not a cook and have never made french bread before, can you tell me how long and at what temp to bake the french bread for? I printed out your recipe for french bread and will try that in my machine next!
Thanks for the info,
jcataw
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I've gone through 2 breadmakers in the last 10 years, and don't understand why your bread was dense. Check your yeast date for freshness and/or try another recipe. That's the whole purpose of having a bread machine, to not have to knead by hand. My bread machine french bread was better than the store bought kind, by far.
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Wait!!! I've got it, the first loaf of bread I made came out that way and I was disappointed. Go out and get Bread Flour, that was the problem. Bread flour has a difference in the gluten content which makes it better for making bread with. Costco sells it by the 20 lb bag, but you can get it in the stores in 5 lbs.. You will be surprised at the difference.
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So glad you are enjoying it. I will get the directions for temp and time and post it later today. 2 reasons I can think of why your bread was too dense. One is, when you measured the flour, did you dump or lightly pour or spoon in? If you dump, you may get too much flour and then the bread is too heavy. I have had dense bread when I didn't let it rise enough, too. I often let it rise longer than it says - there will be no harm to it. Make sure it's doubled in size as opposed to whatever the recipe says for rise time. Happy breadmaking!
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Formerly HanSolo. IBS, OCD, Bipolar, PTSD times 3.
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jcataw - the bread flour is called BETTER FOR BREAD and it's in a yellow bag, 5 lb. If you can't get it, try adding some gluten (get it at the Health food store) to regular flour.
Sharon
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Sharon
"Anything Chocolate"...that is all!
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HanSolo:
Hi! Well, I did "dump" it into the measuring cup and after reading that I realize that that could have been the problem - too much flour. (I should have known that one! I bake cookies all the time for the grandkids!) Will try your recipe for french bread and your other suggestions. Thanks for your help!
Joyce (jcataw)
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Let rise 45 minutes or until doubled. Let me know how it turns out!
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SharonMello:
Hi! Am using bread flour from my store: King Arthur Unbleached Bread Flour. I think HanSolo hit on it with the "dumping" of the flour into the measuring cup. I used the recipe from the bread maker instruction book. I am going to try the recipe recommended by HanSolo and I have ordered the Electric Bread books you recommended. Thanks!
Joyce (jcataw)
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You're a saint! Thanks. Will let you know!
Joyce (jcataw)
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Sharon - I got my copy of Electric Bread in the mail today. I won it on ebay the other day for $6! ($4 + $2 S&H) WOO-HOO! I can't believe I got it already...the auction just ended on Sunday!
Anyway, I had a couple of questions. A lot of the recipes use dry milk. I do remember reading about dry soy milk before, but I was wondering if you could sub regular soy/rice milk? I know my instructions that came with my breadmaker say fresh milk is fine when making recipes to start immediately, but to use dry when setting the timer ahead. What do you think? And, if you can sub it, do you think it would be equal amounts (1 tsp dry = 1 tsp reg)? I've never used dry milk before.
Also, the recipes go in "regular loaf" and "large loaf". My machines settings are 1 lb, 1.5 lb, & 2 lb. Do you think regular is 1.5 & large 2? I couldn't find anything in the book about this, so I was hoping you may know.
I'm a novice at the breadmaker, can you tell? I just got it for Christmas and it's mostly been used for pizza dough!
There are so many yummy sounding recipes in here, I don't know which to make first. I'm leaning toward the Peaches and Cream. Have you tried that one yet?
Thanks!
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Hi Mags - That's great that you got Electric Bread--which one? There are two.
I think the dried milk absorbs excess moisture (kinda like the potato flakes in some of the recipes). I found dry soy milk in the health food store and got some for my next bread baking binge. So, my answer is NO, I don't think you can substitute soy milk for dry milk. It would probably be too much moisture. But, I'm open to others' opinions.
I'd say the regular loaf is 1 lb and large is 1.5 to 2 lb.
I haven't made Peaches and Cream, although I've been tempted with that one a lot.
Good luck with Electric Bread!
Sharon
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Thanks so much for the info! I think I have the first one. I have Electric Bread, but I saw another one on Barnes & Noble called More Electric Bread.
I will have to go out today and get some dry soy milk. Everything I want to try has the dry milk in it!
Thanks again. I'll let you know if I try the Peaches and Cream.
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Mags - some of the good recipes are in this book. For instance:
Pumpernickel
Saucy Apple
Peanut Butter
Baked Potato
Bleu Cheese & Port (our personal favorite--except it has cheese in it)
These are the ones I've tried. The saucy apple is especially good and so is the Peanut Butter--kids usually like this one, but I like it too!
Sharon
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Joyce - King Arthur is good flour. They have a website, you know:
http://www.kingarthurflour.com/cgibin/start/offer-n2.html?cust=165481-C
Sharon
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Hi! Sorry it has taken so long for me to get back to you but I wanted to let you know that I made the dough in my breadmachine and then formed the loaves and baked in the oven as you recommended. YUM! I think french bread is much better that way! Thanks again.
Joyce
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Using your regular french bread recipe, when you roll out the dough to form the loaves, you can baste it with different fillings. If you have Heather's Eating for IBS, try her Rosemary Garlic French Bread filling (it's got yummy stuff in it). It's wonderful. I've also just added chives, minced onion (soaked in water), brushed with oil and your favourite herbs, ....
Happy breadmaking! I'm glad it's working well for you. Are you measuring the dry ingredients and storing them in Ziplocs? I'll measure out 5 or 6 batches worth (separately of course) and then throw them in medium sized Ziplocs and keep them in the pantry. That way, all I have to do is dump the wet ingredients, add a zippy and ta da! (a totally lazy concept but it's easy).
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Formerly HanSolo. IBS, OCD, Bipolar, PTSD times 3.
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I've posted some recipes on the other board - a wicked chicken cacciatore, chicken chow mein, etc. all really easy to make! Happy crocking!
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