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      #104619 - 09/08/04 05:35 PM
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Be interested in knowing what other folks think about this.



Source: University Of Southern California

Date: 2004-09-03

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Bacteria May Be The Cause Of Irritable Bowel Syndrome


Researchers have suggested numerous theories to explain IBS, which affects
as many as 36 million Americans. But according to gastrointestinal motility
specialist Henry C. Lin, associate professor of medicine in the Keck School
of Medicine of USC, the idea of a bacterial origin of IBS represents a major
change in thinking.

Writing in the Aug. 18 issue of JAMA, Lin proposed that ordinary bacteria
normally confined to the large intestine may expand into the small
intestine, prompting uncomfortable bloating and gas after meals, a change in
bowel movements as well as an immune response that may account for the
flu-like illness so common in the IBS patient, including such debilitating
symptoms as headaches, muscle and joint pains and chronic fatigue.

"IBS has long been a frustrating diagnosis for both patients and their
physicians," Lin said. "The bacterial hypothesis of IBS offers new hope for
suffering patients by providing a new framework for understanding the
symptoms of this disorder, pointing to new strategies for treatment."

Physicians frequently diagnose a patient with IBS when ongoing symptoms -
including diarrhea, constipation, bloating, gas and abdominal pain - are not
explained by medical tests such as gastrointestinal endoscopies.

For more than a dozen years, Lin has searched for a common thread to account
for the symptoms in IBS. Studies indicate 92 percent of IBS patients report
bloating after they eat, a symptom he saw again and again in his patients.

While many physicians believe that IBS-related bloating is perceived and not
real, Lin noted that recent studies of IBS patients show that their abdomens
do become measurably more distended than those of healthy patients.

With the symptom of post-meal bloating in mind, Lin began the quest for the
cause of IBS by considering the problem of increased intestinal gas.

Gas comes about when gut bacteria ferment food in the intestinal tract.
There are plenty of organisms in the gut, where bacteria may number 100
trillion.

Bacteria perform a variety of valuable services in the large intestine,
according to Lin. "But we believe problems may start when bacteria set up
shop in the small intestine where they are normally scarce. Usual medical
tests such as endoscopy cannot detect this problem in most patients," he
said.

However, a breath test can be used to indirectly tell if too many bacteria
are in the small intestine. In this test, the patient ingests a syrup
containing the sugar lactulose. Over the next three hours, the gaseous
products of bacterial fermentation of this sugar may be measured in the
exhaled breath.

In a 2003 paper authored by Lin and his research partner Mark Pimentel of
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, 84 percent of IBS patients were found to have
abnormal breath test results suggesting small intestinal bacterial
overgrowth.

In this double-blind, placebo-controlled study, patients received either
antibiotic therapy or a sugar pill. Patients whose small intestinal
bacterial overgrowth was eradicated by antibiotics reported a 75 percent
improvement in symptoms.

Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth allows gut bacteria to cross the
mucosal barrier, which is the lining of the gut, and enter the body. This
activates the patient's immune system as evidenced by increased numbers of
inflammatory cells in tissues of IBS patients.

"The immune response to bacterial antigens may then explain the flu-like
symptoms that can greatly diminish the quality of life such as chronic
fatigue and pain," Lin said.

The Jill and Tom Barad Family Fund supports Lin's current bacterial
overgrowth research. His other research projects are supported by the
National Institutes of Health.

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      #104626 - 09/08/04 06:23 PM
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If I were a betting person, I'd say there could definitely be something to this. After all, look at all the other things that we're starting to find out are bacterial in cause -- ulcers from h.pylori (remember when they were thought to be stress?), degenerative disc disease is now thought to have a bacterial origin, there is MUCH work being done in inflammatory arthritises which shows bacteria is definitely responsible (Dr. Carlson's work specifically, and his successes in treatment with antibiotics), and so on. I even read recently that some types of heart disease may be bacterial in origin (might explain why some people get a rise in sed rate just before a heart event).

Anyone else? Opinions?

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Re: should we all go out and get tested for bacteria???? new
      #104629 - 09/08/04 06:38 PM
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Re: should we all go out and get tested for bacteria???? new
      #104635 - 09/08/04 07:03 PM
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very interesting--I have had this theory for some time that IBS might be caused by either a bacteria or latent virus--how could so many people have contracted the same illness with the same syptoms if not caused by either bacteria or virus? I am going to take this article with me to the Rheumatologist next week and see what she says--I suffer with very bad muscle pain and I am on a mission to find out why...thanks for the info!!

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Re: researcher thinks bacteria a factor in IBS new
      #104673 - 09/09/04 04:33 AM
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interesting, but they used a bacterial test as one of the ways to rule out infection and rule in IBS for me.. so it kinda would be contradicted by that... then again this getting bad enough again for a diagnosis was after months on a variety of heavy duty antibiotics because we had undiagnosed pertussis and they had us on the wrong antibiotics for so long that when they hit the right ones it killed the disease but didn't get the symptoms gone right away.

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Re: researcher thinks bacteria a factor in IBS new
      #104729 - 09/09/04 09:04 AM
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Bacteria can certainly make IBS worse, but I would not say it causes it. I had pain with mine that would simply not go away, no matter what I did. Sure enough, they ran tests and found I had a bacterial infection in my gut. A round of antiobiotics helped, but then it came back again. I took Apple cider vinegar for 3 days, and that took care of it. The doctor did not prescribe it, I was desparate because I could not take another round of antibiotics. (A friend told me about it.) So if nothing helps your IBS, you may want to be tested. Even though I got rid of the bacteria, I still have IBS.

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      #104732 - 09/09/04 09:32 AM
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Don't you just love where it says most doctors think the bloating is "perceived" & NOT REAL!

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      #104741 - 09/09/04 10:03 AM
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It might depend on what particular bacteria they tested for, and which one(s) can cause IBS. This new research may find bacteria that hadn't been implicated previously in IBS.

I am taking 18 months of antibiotics for my rheumatoid arthritis -- I'm about a year into it, and doing fantastic. I'm tempted to stop it now, but the doc says it's worth it to finish up. I am SOOOO glad I searched for answers and didn't believe that there was no knkown cause, and therefore no cure. But, it'll be just my luck that when I finish the 18 months of it, they'll find out what bacteria causes IBS, and I'll be positive for that, and have to start a NEW round of antibiotics to kill that one! (I'm really tired of antibiotics every day!)

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Re: researcher thinks bacteria a factor in IBS new
      #104743 - 09/09/04 10:10 AM
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I just spoke with my doctor about this. He said the problem is that because of our altered gut motility the bacterial overgrowth will eventually come back and have to be treated with antibiotics again and again. Doesn't sound too promising to me yet.

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      #104782 - 09/09/04 12:56 PM
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I get kideny infections every few months and I get put on antibiotics. Everytime I start the antibiotics my IBS symptoms get worse. One would think that if a bacteria were to blame, I would get better not worse. Hmmmm.


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Re: researcher thinks bacteria a factor in IBS new
      #104809 - 09/09/04 02:29 PM
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The bacteria in your kidneys would have to be the same as the one in your gut for the antibiotic to work on both. There are lots of different bacteria, and different antibiotics to kill them.

Also, GI upset is a common side effect of most antibiotics.

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Re: researcher thinks bacteria a factor in IBS new
      #257950 - 04/12/06 07:12 PM
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Bacteria seems to me to be the front runner as the cause of IBS. If it is the cause to IBS, hopefully they can figure out a way to eliminate it without the bacteria continuing to come back over and over again.

Is anybody up for a visit to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, to visit with Mr. Pimentel and Lin? Has anyone read A New IBS Solution To IBS by Pimentel?

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      #257973 - 04/13/06 05:15 AM
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I had a bacterial intestinal infection while I lived in Italy in 1993 - maybe there is a link from that to my IBS, very interesting article. I'm going to print it and bring it to the GI with me in May.

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Bacteria hypothesis..How about the gut-neurology hypothesis new
      #257974 - 04/13/06 05:19 AM
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Although the bacteria hypothesis is compelling, I do not think that is can be considered the cause of the problem. I think it just exerbates it. I suggest taking a look at the gut-neuro signaling hypothesis. The gut has the highest number of neurons ourside the brain as compared to any other organs. There are numerous papers showing that neuro signaling is altered in the gut of pts with IBS. Specifically with 5-HT and H3 signaling. The research is stronger in this area than in the bacteria. Now don't get me wrong, I think that excessive bacteria could have a role in the disease, but I don't think it is the underlying cause. There is currently not enough evidence to support it.

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I agree new
      #257981 - 04/13/06 06:09 AM
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I think everyone is different. I had a breath test done to test for bactaria overgrowth and it was fine.

I believe I have a dysfunction between the nerves that connect the brain to the gut.

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Re: I agree new
      #258040 - 04/13/06 12:17 PM
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It may not be a problem between the brain and gut, but maybe be a problem within the gut. Just something to ponder.

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