Question about Gravey...
#287886 - 10/25/06 11:48 AM
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Dajara
Reged: 12/01/05
Posts: 347
Loc: Medicine Hat. AB. CAN
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Is it possible to have a somewhat safe gravey without actually making a turkey/chicken/roast ect? One of the things I used to love making was swedish meatballs with rice and gravey.. Meat balls can be made safe, rice is great, now just the gravey aspect...
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Well, chicken broth with flour to thicken it is kind of gravy. It just doesn't have that great mouth feel and flavor you get from all the pan drippings. You'd have to do the math, but you could probably use a little oil or safe margarine to brown the flour then add the chicken broth.
Would you oven bake your Swedish meatballs?
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That is the only way I know how to make them.. I don't think there would be that much flavor from them though... I don't know..
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So how did you make the meatballs and gravy pre-IBS? Maybe we can work backwards from there.
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You could also try a powdered mix. I've never personally used them, but you might be able to find one that is safe. I'm sure you could find one without dairy or beef products, but it might be tricky to find one without MSG.
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I've used these before and they are really good... Shane liked them too... you could use this as a base and add more stuff to it to get the flavor your looking for.... great on rice, noodles, potatoes...etc....
Just add hot water to this mix for rich, dairy-free gravy. Makes 1 cup. Brown or Chicken Flavor. 0.7 oz packet
Chicken Flavor Gravy Ingredients: Corn starch (non-GMO), Autolyzed yeast extract, natural vegan flavor, dehydrated cane juice, onion powder, garlic powder, sea salt, rice flour, spices, malted barley extract (coloring), spice extractives, extractives of turmeric (coloring)
Brown Gravy Mix Ingredients: Unbleached white flour, corn starch (non-GMO), Autolyzed yeast extract, sea salt, molasses powder (molasses, wheat starch, soy flour), onion powder, garlic powder, spices
Chicken Flavored Gravy Nutritional information: Serving size - 2 teaspoons dry mix Servings per packet - about 4 Calories per serving - 25 Total fat - 0g Sodium - 360mg Total carbohydrate - 6g (0g dietary fiber, less than 1g sugar) Protein - less than 1g
Brown Gravy Nutritional information: Serving size - 2 teaspoons dry mix Servings per packet - about 4 Calories per serving - 15 Total fat - 0g Sodium - 270mg Total carbohydrate - 3g (0g dietary fiber, less than 1g sugar) Protein - less than 1g
Hain Vegan Gravy Mix
I'm able to find this at my local grocery stores, but others might have a hard time getting... I think I've seen them at whole foods too... if all else fails, you can order them online.
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I used to make a roast beef say, sunday for supper, then i would have left over gravy for durring the week (say, monday or tuesday) make up some meat balls in the oven, done deal. OR I used to take a can of beef broth (campbells) and then something called Gravee Mix which would inhance the flavor and cause it to thicken.. however if I put too much it, it was more like beef flavored jello than anything else (it was kinda icky haha)
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There are wonderful chicken stocks that come in quart boxes - some are fat free, organic and without msg. If you have a Trader Joe's they carry them, but they might even be available in the market. If you can tolerate some fat, you can make a roux with the fat and flour (melt the fat and let the flour cook in it a minute or so) then add the broth. You can spike up the flavor with a little wine, some herbs and also by simmering your baked meatballs in it. I just made the WW Chicken 'n' Biscuit recipe on the board and the gravy was awesome. I used a bit more fat than called for (2 TBS) and 2 cups of stock and 1/2 cup white wine.
Another idea for yummy drippings. Roast a chicken. You can eat the skinless breast and feed hubby, the neighbor or the dogs, the dark meat. The drippings, defatted, should be wonderful. Use the boxed stock, white wine, a combo or even just some water to get them up, refrigerate so the fat comes to the top and is easy to remove. Then thicken the gravy either with the roux method or cornstarch. The roux method produces the best flavor and texture, I think.
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What is autolyzed yeast extract? I've also been told to be wary of natural flavor in a product. My son is very sensitive to MSG and so many things masquerade as it.
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Well, you could try Shell's gravy mix or you could try this:
Make your meatball mix. Shape into meatballs but reserve 1-2 meatballs worth. Put Jen's 1 Tablespoon of oil in a non-stick skillet and brown the reserved meatball mix in it. Sprinkle in your flour and let cook for a minute. Then stir in mushroom stock if you can find it otherwise chicken stock. Let cook until it thickens. See how it tastes.
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Sigh. It contains MSG. This probably means I'd skip these gravy mixes (sob) but some IBSers can tolerate it.
Speaking of MSG, I thought this Web page was interesting because it says MSG occurs naturally in mushrooms, tomatoes, and carrageenan none of which have ever bothered me.
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I'm not sure what this all means. I know some of the "chemical" sounding forms of MSG are very hard on me but apparently some of the more "natural" ones aren't. I wonder if it has to do with how concentrated the MSG is.
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OH THAT SUCKS!!! I did not realize that was MSG.... I think it must be a small enough amount... I only eat 1/4 of the package that it does not bother ME.... but it could others.... I do have a hard time with high amounts of MSG...
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Hi, A safe gravy mix is in the same kind of package as the Hain one but it is by "Road's End Organics". They make a few different flavours but the one I ususally use is the Savory Herb. It contains no MSG or fat, no dairy, wheat or gluten. I get them at the Health food Store. Debbie IBS-A
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