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#79508 - 06/15/04 02:16 PM
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Bevvy
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Ever heard of boob rash? Well, I have it. After my last post about my UTI, and all the great responses, I'm thinking maybe my sensitive skin REALLLLY doesn't like my detergent and fabric softener! Is that possible?
When I went to the doc, he barely looked at the rash, but I did lift up my boobs for him, he took a look and said it was a fungus, and advised me to use the same OTC meds as for athlete's feet. Okay, so I've gone through four tubes of the stuff so far, and it hasn't helped at all. My boobs itch like CRAZY!
Since my athletic bras seem to irritate it the most, I thought perhaps the rash was caused by perspiration when I work out. (Work-out bras = sweat = irritation?) But now I'm beginning to think it's the detergent and fabric softener.
Anyone?
I think I'll definitely get some All "Free & Clear," pull out all my undies from the dresser, and wash them all in it.
Then, if the rash goes away, I'm goin' back to Dr. JellyFinger! 
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Could it be itchy heat? That comes up as a red rash - usually spots of red I think. Itches like crazy and drives me mad. Does a cold shower and a loose shirt with no bra (  ) help?
Seems like everything's telling you to have less baths!
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Hiya Bev!
Poor you, with all these 'girlie' probs. I feel for you with the UTIs as well, I got a bunch of 'em last year for some reason but it (touch wood) doesn't seem so bad this year.
Anywho, I just wanted to say that last year I got a rash on my breasts that was making my skin really dry, red and itchy. When I went to my doctor, she took a look but said it was nothing.. She told me to try a different laundry detergent, so I did. I changed laundry detergents, and softeners and washed alllll my clothes. At first, I didn't think it was making any difference but it eventually went away - I think it might have just taken AGES to heal up. I don't think it helps that bras are always rubbing against 'em and irritating them!
Hope you find out why your boobs are so itchy!
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Hey Bev,
Sorry about your boob problem.  Fortunately, I've never had that problem. I think if you changed your detergent and fabric softner it should help. Also, my husband uses OTC Gold Bond Lotion for his rashes (not on his boobs) and it helps him. Try to keep dry in that area and go without a bra some if possible. One more thing, taking an antihistamine like Benadryl (will make you sleepy) helps itching for my husband.
Sorry not to be more help.
Barbie
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Bev, had a rash, turned out to be a hormonal thing, are you on HRT? It made a big difference for me, no more itching. My mom told me first, and she was right, I now take Estrace every day, no more itch!!! Washing everything in free and clear is a good idea !!
Thinking back on this, I did not have a visible rash, it was just an intense itch. It was so bad that out in public I would almost go nuts from wanting to rub the itch off of my boobs, NO LIE !! Also, I have hives on my shoulders, when life gets just too stressful I will have scratch marks on my shoulders, I have made myself quit scratching so I can wear sleevless shirts. Oh dear !!!
If I drank Buttermilk I would PUKE !! Nassty stuff!
Hope this helps !! PS I HATE BRAS !! gayla
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you just gave Bevrs 4 -count 'em: FOUR!!!! - good suggestions, then you followed it with an apology for not being "more help!" you're so silly! i'm sure you gave her a great deal of help!
SMOOCHES!
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#79536 - 06/15/04 02:56 PM
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Bevvy
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You bet she did. Great suggestions. So did Gayla, Steph and Linz.
Hormonal? Could be. So why didn't my doc catch it?
I'm definitely gonna go with the new detergent. And Benadryl is a great idea.
These Boards ROCK!
Thanks guys.
Bev
P.S.: Unfortunately, there's NO WAY I could go without a bra. Damn. I envy all small-boobed women.
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#79540 - 06/15/04 03:01 PM
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HATE BRAS, TOO! I don't remember the last time I wore one. 
Of course I'm not working right now, so that helps.
I am little  (darn) so I can get away with it. I always try to find shirts that have print or something on the front so nothing shows through.
Barbie
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#79541 - 06/15/04 03:02 PM
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i am by no means a boob rash expert, so i have little of value to offer up. however, it does seem unusual to have multiple problems that could possibly be traced back to laundry detergent, no? i had to switch to the free and clear stuff for a while- i was miserable and itchy (though no actual rash). i guess that was a few years ago. i was really consistent with the free and clear crap for months and months and then, i don't know how it happened, but i'm back to normal old detergent. i don't know when and how it happened. in your case i'm going to toe the party line and agree that you should give it a try. if you have an actual rash it may take a few weeks. meanwhile, feel free to flash your boobs at whomever you wish (with wild abandon, even!). i give you my permission!
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#79544 - 06/15/04 03:05 PM
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Bevvy, is your bra pure cotton? If it's not, I'd change that - I always get itchier with my man-made-fabric undies.
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Sometimes they just have their heads up their butts !! 
When you hear the Doc as the?? "Who turned the lights off"?
Thats when you know it is time to find a new one, doc that is !!!
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Hi Bev,
We use Nystatin, in a powder form, on our our residents who have a rash under their boobs. The doctor has to write a RX out for it and it does a great job.
Call your doctor and ask for it. Hope you feel better and check this link out about the drug info.
http://health.yahoo.com/health/drug/202418/
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If you are exercising or just out side sweating a lot get a good sports bra made with Cool Max or something like it. It has a "wicking" action that keeps the moisture away from your skin. I was dying before I found one. Also, yes - change your detergent, etc. That's my 2 cents.
Jen - I love flasher!
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BLESS YOU, Barb!
#79775 - 06/15/04 09:36 PM
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Bevvy
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You are SOOOOO gonna make the best nurse! This is GREAT info. Why, oh WHY didn't my doc think of it? Telling me to use athlete's feet medicine was lame; it totally did nothing, four tubes of it!
THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH!
Congrats on the new unit. I hope you like it better. It's gonna be a tough one, though. My mom-in-law died of Altzheimer's. When she was put in one of the homes, she was extremely combative, fighting and clawing and biting, because she kept trying to leave and they had to physically prevent her -- apparently she was surprisingly strong for her age and size! They called us and told us she had to be moved; she was too much trouble.
I visited her in the next home she went to -- it was horrible. I never went back, I just couldn't take it. Poor hubby had to endure it until 10 years later when she finally died. Apparently her mind forgot how to digest food, and even the IV wouldn't work; she died of starvation.
Okay, this is too morose. Sorry.
Hope it works for you in the new unit, Barb. You'll certainly get some excellent experience.
Bevvy
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I hope the powder works for you. Make sure you use soap and water to clean under your boobs, dry competely, put your powder on and put dry wash cloths under your breats while you sleep. The washclothes will help soak up sweat.
I'm sorry to hear about your mother-n-law. You have to remember she didn't die of starvation and I am surprise she had an IV line.
When my mother-n-law died in October from Hep. C I was very upset she didn't have an IV for fluids. My sister-n-law, who is a nurse said it is more cruel to give a dying person liquids. When the body is shutting down it dosen't want food and liquids becauses it causes bloating and pain for the dying person.
The unit I'm leaving is where all the end term Alzheimer residents go and I have seen my share die this year. We don't force liquids and food, but our goal is to make them comfortable. We suave their mouths, give them oxygen and medicine for comfort measures.
I hope this info helps you feel better. Your mother-n-law suffered from a horrible disease, but in the end her body said no more. Her body was naturally shutting down.
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#79892 - 06/16/04 09:00 AM
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BarbaraS
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I will be sent to a three day class about Alzheimer's residents.
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#79898 - 06/16/04 09:09 AM
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Bevvy
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Thanks, Barb. Actually, it was an incredible relief when she passed. Don went through hell, watching her slowly die. Like I said, it took 10 years. This disease is truly "The Long Good-Bye." The worst part, of course, was for most of those 10 years she didn't know who he was. I guess for her that was a blessing because she didn't know who SHE was either.
Don suffered something terrible over this. His mother was a WONDERFUL person; we both loved her dearly. She was my best friend, and we loved to sew together. I'd do the machine work, she'd do the hand work. And she REALLY could sew; you'd never even see the stitches.
Don went through hell over it, and even lost his faith. He was Catholic. He never regained it, claiming there is no forgiving God who would do that to such a wonderful person. I tried to get him to go talk to the priest, but he wouldn't. You don't want to hear what he said in response.
I'm very happy for your new job, Barb. You obviously really know your stuff, so you'll do well. The patients are lucky to have you.
Bev
P.S.: Dry washcloths while I sleep???
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I had this problem sometimes in the summer in pre-IBS days. In an unfortunate way, this may be one thing that actually go better after IBS. I used to have problems with it becuase of rubbing from bras when I would exercise. It never got real bad, but sometimes some reddness underneath. Either way, after my first full summer with IBS (about a year ago now) I lost 23 pounds in two months because I was completely unstable, couldn't eat and pooed it all out in D every time I tried to eat. Doesn't that sound like a pleasant picture! I ended up dropping three dress sizes and the boobs went from a 34 C to a 32 B - and let me tell you, size 32 B is about the hardest one to find in all the stores! Allong with the size 0 dresses that I wear now too. I'm more stable now and I've gained back some of the weight though - but somehow I can't get back the boobie part. Hubby still says they're perfect.  Makes me feel a bit better.
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#79989 - 06/16/04 12:08 PM
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BarbaraS
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Dry washcloths while I sleep???
LOL That is what we do for the residents.
I am really sorry to hear your husband has given up his faith. I use to ask the same question and after awhile I accepted things are not always fair. It all started when Adam and Eve ate the apple. 
I had a very hard childhood and have trusted that God has a purpose for allowing my parents to mistreat me. I have been able to share my story with people who come from a similar background and tell them how I overcame my pain. I have forgiven my parents without an apology. That took many years to forgive and it was not easy! Sometimes people rather live in the pain/past, because they don't know anything else and it is easier.
I really feel for your husband and you for losing a close relationship. My pastor talks about how God can use our pain to minister to other people. Your husband sounds like a wonderful man and I can see him using his experience to help other people.
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Sorry about your bout with IBS. But I sure wish I could lose some of that weight like you did. (Well, not EXACTLY like you did....)
Your hubby is a keeper! Oh yeah. Hold onto him.
Thanks for your post.
Bev
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Do you still have a relationship with your parents?
I need to do some forgiving too, as you say "without apology," but I don't know if I want to. I mean, what's the point, if they'll never change and continue mistreating you? Isn't it just better to maintain the estrangement? Why subject yourself to more of the same? Life is too short to spend it with people who don't love you.
Am I wrong?
Bev
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wrong. I have not seen my parents for 13 years, matter of fact they were not invited to my wedding almost 13 years ago.
I don't believe in the saying, "forgive and forget". That is another slap in the face and the Bible doesn't teach that. By forgiving my parents it relased my anger towards them and gave me power to say you can no longer hurt me nor control me.
My point is you can forgive without a relationship. If I still had a relationship with my parents they continue to hurt me and they hurt my children. Protecting my boys is more important than my parents. I think it is really sad my parents will never see my boys, but they made that decision by not wanting to change.
BTW I am meeting with a counselor today to work through issues from work. My self esteem is shot right now.
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Barbara, so glad you're seeing a counselor. I remember when low self esteem was a step UP for me! he he! My therapist is part of my support network now, and I finally have some self esteem. Good luck with it, sweetie!
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Bev,
I am sorry you are going through all this stuff lately. I haven't had that problem but I have had a problem with soap sensativity and have to wash my undies in a very mild soap. I would try changing your detergent and fabric softener and see if that helps.
Good Luck!
Janey
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Barbara is right. You can forgive in your heart and never go back to the people who caused you such pain. Finding forgiveness in your heart will bring YOU such peace, something that would definitely be a start to regaining some of your health.
It took me many years to forgive my dad, with God's help I am past the pain. I too have been through therapy, one of the best steps I have taken to move on in my life.
Finding forgiveness is a gift you give to yourself, you never ever have to go back and visit the person who hurt you again !!! Ever !!!!
One thing I learned the first appointment I had with my therapist. She had me sit down and write a letter to my dad, let it all out and tell him exactly how I felt in my heart describing the pain, the pain, and the rest of the pain. You just keep writing until your hand is about to fall off, when you are finished keep it as long as you need to ( I think I kept mine a few hours). Tear it to shreds with your hands, no shredder, if your hands are able to tear through an inch in legal pad. Thats about how long my letter was. You show it to nobody, dispose of it, burn it if you want. It took years and years of incredible pain out of my heart. Amazing, if you have never done this, I encourage you to try it.
I am trying to encourage some type of relationsip with my dad, he seems to be interested only when it suits him and his schedule. I understand deep down in my heart why I bother, it just doesn't keep me from wondering why I am doing so.
love to you Bev, and Barbara. gayla
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I think I forgave my mother a long time ago; I don't hold any grudges or hang onto any kind of hate or anything like that. Actually, in 1986 I made an attempt to rekindle a relationship with her, but it was a total disaster; the entire time she was out here, I was sick to my stomach. When I put her on the plane back to Virginia and told her our relationship was not going to work out, as I left the gate, I felt such a lifting of pressure off my shoulders as I literally ran back to my car.
I haven't seen or heard from her since. I don't know if she's still alive. Herein lies my fear. Will I rot in hell for defying one of the Tenth Commandments? I have absolutely no respect for her -- NONE. And if she's dead, well, I'm sorry, but well, that's too bad.
Okay, I'm a horrible person. But I don't wanna rot in hell. What do I say to God when I arrive at his door to explain myself? As much as I fear this, it's not enough to make nice-nice to that woman (if she's still alive).
Okay, there's that rambling thing again.
Barb, good luck with the counselor. I don't know why your self esteem is shot, but I hope it's nothing from any of your fellow employees. You're obviously very good at what you do, and you love it so much, don't allow anyone -- ANYONE -- to ruin this for you!
Please don't be such a stranger around here if you can help it. You have so much to bring to the table; we really appreciate you here.
Your friend,
Bev
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I just had to say that I did the writing exercise like you describe, Gayla. The funny part was after I tore it up and wanted to dispose of it. First I tried flushing it down the toilet but it wouldn't go!!! Then I tried throwing it down the compacter chute in our apartment building, but there was an updraft and it just blew back in my face!! It was too funny. It was like my "bad" daddy was still getting his last licks in! The good news is after forgiving my "bad" daddy, my good daddy and I were very close for the last few years of his life. My goodness, what a blessing and what a miracle. But that "bad" daddy sure didn't want to let go!!!!
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#80414 - 06/17/04 10:58 AM
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you can't rot in hell for defying one of the ten commandments. There are many places in the Bible God commands parents to treat their children with respect. Parents have an incredible responsbility to raise their children with values, morals, be God fearing, love, protect, nurture, encourage, etc.
My parents failed to do the above list - how can I honor those people. They are not role models. I can't honor people who disrepect me and have no regard for me as a human being. I never felt safe as a child and even as an adult from my parents. As an adult it wasn't physcial safety I worried about as much as my emotional safety.
Besides your mother never contacted you and you are her child. That doesn't sound like a woman I want to honor - rejecting her own daughter. I'm am happy you have a wonderful husband and long marriage to him.
The couseling went well this morning and yes my self esteem is shot due to the girls I work with. The counselor helped me realize I personalize things too much. I walked in telling her I don't know what I did wrong and I wish they could tell me. The counselor stopped me right away and told me to slow down. We talked for an hour and I'm more prepared to handle my last night working with these girls on Saturday. I also realized how much I've allowed the girls to mistreat me too, by not standing up for myself.
Thanks for your encouragement Bev - you are an awesome person.
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#80416 - 06/17/04 11:02 AM
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thanks for you post. Your view on forgivenees is great!!! I'm sorry you had to work through pain concerning your dad, but glad to know you are at peace now.
I feel better after my counseling session this morining (more likely I won't go back), but the counselor asked me what is the number reason why people change. She said it is pain, whether physical or mental, but pain is what causes us to make changes within ourselves.
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#80418 - 06/17/04 11:06 AM
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Dearest Bev,
You have done everything humanly possible to rise above the past. When you reached out and invited your mother to visit, it was an attempt of the grandest proportions to bring your and her life to a place where you could "Honor your Father and Mother". Obviously it fell apart in front of you, it was not meant to be! You can take that to the bank!! You are NOT a horrible person, you have forgiven her, given reconciliation your best shot, it still was NOT MEANT TO BE !! And Bev, that can absolutely come from God!!
You did not let the past beat you down, I am telling you once again, I think you are the BEST for giving it that extra mile. Do not beat yourself up about it!
As for rotting in HEll, there is a way to make sure that you do not go there!! All you have to do is get down on your knees, talk to God!! He gave his only son, so that we may have everlasting life!! By accepting Jesus into your heart, all of your sins will be forgiven !!!! Erased !!! There will be no need to explain your self to God when you arrive at Heaven, the gates will open wide for you to walk right through !!
If you are interested in hearing more, and want help with this, send me a PM. I will talk to you until I run out of breathe !!! Sweetly of course. You are not rambling Bev, you are reaching out! I truly believe that God sent me here at this moment to read the posts, so I could be here for you and do my best to answer any questions you may have. If for some reason I feel I don't have every answer you need, I can surely get help to answer them for you! I certainly do not want you to go to HEll either !! THat is very important to me and my place as a Christian to help you!
You are not a "horrible person", far from it girl !
I am here for you, with a heart full of love, gayla
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What an awesome post, you are so right! God gave us our children as gifts, they are not OURS! They belong to him, we are to do everythng for them that you just stated. Your parents and Bev's mom did not honor that committment!
Both of you, believe me, it will come back around to them !
Everything does !!! Amen!
You go Barbara, you have found a great therapist. You take those tools she gave you and walk right in with them Saturday and DO NOT BE AFRAID to use them.
One little thing that might help you take that step is, you just spent GOOD-BIG-MONEY to get that help. You have to use it now!!!! saying a prayer for you, gayla
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WHY don't we stand up for ourselves?
While I've been estranged from my younger brother and my mother, I had a relationship with my older brother up until 8 years ago. I love him so much, and to this day I miss him something awful. But I just won't tolerate being mentally abused any longer.
When my bro got married, I really tried to get along with his B----. I really did. When she laughed at me (AT me, not WITH me), I laughed at myself too, even though I was hurting inside. Once, after a couple of Jacks, I fought back. We had a HUGE fight; it was not a pretty picture. She and my bro left my house, and we became estranged for 3 years. I was miserable.
So when my bro wrote me 3 years later and wanted to make up, I tried to put the past out of my mind, and made nice-nice with his B----. I did good, REAL good -- so good, in fact, that she and my bro asked my hubby and me to be Godparents to their newly born son. I loved that little boy so much, and hated to see how that B---- spoiled the hell out of him. I said nothing.
As he grew, he got a little out of control. Still I said nothing. At dinner one Christmas, she turned to Don and me and said, "Am I spoiling him too much?" Still I said nothing. I was being a good sister-in-law and a terrific sis -- wasn't I?
But when my Godson began showing a total lack of respect for me, echoing the words and actions of his mother, I lost it. I checked with her first, and asked her if she wanted me to reprimand him or if she wanted to do it herself; she said for me to do it. So I did.
That was the end of our relationship. She BLASTED me. I fought back, but my bro supported her. That was 8 years ago.
I miss my bro. I love him dearly, but it's all over; I'll never see him again.
I'm tired of being a doormat. Why does family treat each other like this? WHY?
I have no idea how my Godson turned out. Well, actually, I DO have an idea, and it's not a pretty picture. I'm disappointed -- and I miss the little boy I loved so much. But I'm also very mean-spirited because I wish I could be a fly on the wall when my Godson leaves home, because that B---- will totally fall apart. And she deserves it.
See how I am?
I'd rather have no family than a family like I have. And I feel I'm to blame for most of it -- because I never stood up for myself, allowing myself to be laughed at, made fun of, and even mentally abused. Why? WHY? Do I have so little self esteem that I tolerate this kind of behavior from my so-called "loved ones"? Was I responsible for my mother's abuse of me as well because I didn't fight back? I was scared to death of her; if I had fought back she'd have beat me with that wooden paddle of hers until I had boils on my butt.
You're right. I have a wonderful, loving husband, and we have a lot of fun together. I'm a lucky gal.
Barb, I love your counselor. It sounds like she's REALLY helping you! Good for her -- and good for you.
BTW, you're pretty awesome yourself.
Bev
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Thank You, Gayla
#80429 - 06/17/04 11:31 AM
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Bevvy
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What a lovely post. Sure made me cry.
You make me feel a lot better. Thank you.
I figure that if I'm a good person, if I am a sympathetic, kind, considerable person in this life, that perhaps it might weigh heavily in my favor when I get to The Gate. I'm hoping, at least.
I don't mean to give you the impression that I had a childhood of hell. While my mother was not very nice, and created an extremely dysfunctional family, to say the least, I had a magnificent father who loved us all VERY much. His death in 1972 was one of the worst times of my life. I have terrific memories of him, something my mother has tried to ruin because she knew what my daddy meant to me, and I think it drove her crazy. As I said, she was not a nice person.
My biggest fear was that I was just like her. It used to eat me up, and everytime I looked in the mirror I'd see her ugly face. But when I tried to rekindle our relationship that time, it was a chance to see her again after a long estrangement, and I saw a very different person than I was. It was a big relief to see that I was not like her in any way; maybe in the face, but most definitely not in any other manner. I have a lot of my daddy in me, thank GOD!
Thanks again for your incredible support, Gayla. I won't forget it.
Bev
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Thats so sweet Bev!
From reading past posts, I know how much you loved your daddy (thats how we say down here in the good ole South)!
It sounds to me that he really loved you soooooo much, he not only told you and showed you, he lived it!! More Amen !!
You are so blessed to have had him !! For me, my MOM is the greatest!! The most patient Momma in the world, she had no choice but to be patient with me!!
You are a great friend !!! And a good ole BROAD!!!
I think I may actually BE A BROAD now !!!!!
What do you think??? gayla
One more thing, I do definitely understand the woman with a cruel and mean heart !! Remember my post about my MIL!! I swear, the first breathe she ever drew was a mean one !!! She's hurt me and broken my heart on countless occasions, and loved every minute of it. I also have put her aside! When I look at her, and she was a beautiful woman in her younger years (extremely vain too). She now weighs about 89lbs, walks with a cane (something she hates!! and doesnt want to go out in public because people may see her like this?? I swear.....). She is 79, still just as hateful as ever. This is one of the things that has made my walk as a Christian extremely trying. She doesn't get under my skin anymore, I gave all of that heartache to God. Amen !!!
have a good afternoon ya ole Broad !!! gayla
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it is because we have kind, tender, loving hearts. We want everyone to love each other, and love us back. All we want to see is happiness in our families, our lives, and this world. It just does not work that way...Bev, your bro evidentally has no SE either, he grew up with the MOW and now he married one!! Totally his choice, he should have made it known from the beginning that she have totally respect for his family. IT did not happen, a shame. Again, you are not the bad person, you bit your tongue for years, she baited you, she struck! Nuff said........they both owe you an apology, a huge one. I doubt it happens.
Bless you and that wonderful hubby of yours, he loves ya!!
Thats all you need, it looks to me that you two have done a great job of soaking each other up!!! THats how it should be girl ! gayla
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