LOSERS--I need advice!
#62592 - 04/19/04 11:38 AM
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I am a relative newbie to the board. I have a lot of weight to lose. When I first started the IBS diet, it helped my symptoms and I lost some weight. But now I am gaining again since I found the pumpkin and other sugar-loaded breads in the recipe book. It is so hard not to eat those because I am so limited. I can not use my usual "dieting" foods-- fruits, vegetables, Diet Coke and Crystal Light. I need a whole new way to eat, but can only tolerate French bread, chicken, fish, pasta, rice, rice cakes and the recipe breads, along with water. I can not have any lactose or soy, and only sometimes rice milk products. Being so limited in choices draws me to the pumpkin and French breads too many times during the day, which pumps up the weight, but I feel so deprived I fall back on them every time. How do you all do it without the fruits and vegetables, which I really can't tolerate most of, even cooked? I appreciate so much any tips or advice you could offer me to slim down now that my IBS is under control. Dawn
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i'm a loser.
#62599 - 04/19/04 12:03 PM
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jenX
Reged: 08/11/03
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well, i wanna be. 
can you do fruits and veggies pureed? for example, fruit smoothies? how about if you blended up some veggies and added it to pasta sauce or blended it to put on pasta?
you know, other people are going to have some great suggestions, but you should also go ask on the Recipe board for their help. Kree will be able to give you 101 recipes that will help you and you may be able to tolerate better. right now, your diet is too restricted! no wonder you're jumping on that lucious fruitbread!
can you have rice? i have rice all the time. one of my favorites is to toss in about a Tbsp of cardamom and a Tbsp of cinnamon into the water while the rice cooks. then, when it's almost done i stir in some really finely sliced carrots and/or zucchini (cut matchstick style). you could add any veggies you want, really, just chop 'em really really small/fine and let 'em cook just a touch.
the above rice concoction is great with a little fish (salmon, yum!) on the side, or chicken, too! also, once you're more stable, you could add in some legumes or black beans, chopped, if you like. in fact, now i eat black beans without chopping them up at all! (WAHOO!)
how about regular rice with well-steamed broccoli cut/broken/chopped really fine. take lemon juice (preferably a fresh lemon. yum!) and sprinkle it on, stir.
you say Quote:
only sometimes rice milk products
i wonder why that bothers you? there's no milk in it... it's essentially just rice and water, i think. can you put that in a recipe, like for rice pudding? that's a nice snack and/or breakfast. or dessert. ok--- or meal!
how about cream of rice? i ate that a lot before i got adventurous. stir in some chopped up (small!) strawberries or banana... TASTY!
cream of wheat?
oatmeal?
saltines? (low fat)
a few handfuls of some safe cereals? (rice krispies, cheerieos.... if you search for cereals you'll get tons more... i can't eat most 'cause of the wheat, so i'm a bad source, here)
rice crackers? (you get used to them, eventually)
rice cakes?
soup! there are more than a few soup recipes on the boards... some people blend up their veggies and make a soup.
baked potato?
oh, how could i forget!? RICE NOODLES! ( yummy sauce to put over rice noodles)
sweet potato-- bake as you would a regular white baking potato, but drizzle on a little lo-fat syrup or a dash of brown sugar or a little honey.... tasty.
i'm out, for now. 
*j
PS: your picture is great. you look familiar....
   
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#62607 - 04/19/04 12:17 PM
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Bevvy
Reged: 11/04/03
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Skye, I know EXACTLY what you mean. I have to lose weight too. My doc gave me only 3 months to do it in, though -- now THAT's pressure!
I spoke with Heather about this, because I didn't know how to do it either. How do you keep a soluble fiber in your tummy at all times and still lose weight? It's not an easy task.....
Heather's suggestion was definitely NOT starve myself, that would only trigger an attack, but to cut out all sugar since it's nothing but empty calories.
So I'm one of those LOSERS who is on a sugaaaa-free program. I'm supposed to keep a soluble fiber in my tummy at all times, but maybe not a whole potato roll, just a half instead.
It's hard cutting out sugar. The trick is to STAY AWAY from the Diet Board. That's a killer. Just don't go in there. Don't fix anything sweet -- no ADBs, no RKTs, nothing -- just cold-turkey it. Limit your snacks to sugar-free goodies, like a potato roll, for instance -- and try to cut your portion size to half what it was. Just DON'T STARVE YOURSELF!
Actually, I started feeling a lot better when I cut out the sugar, and I dropped a quick 3 pounds right off the bat, so I think Heather's "spot-on"!
Empty your pantry of all X-rated goodies. Ditto with the fridge and the freezer. Yep, that includes the Mocha Fudge! (Groan.) If you have it on hand, believe me you'll sniff it out. I KNOW.
Lose the pancakes, waffles, French toast -- anything that calls for butter and syrup.
Fruit and veggies bother you? Try a half banana and see how you do with it. If veggies don't go down well, try V-8 juice instead.
If you have a sugar-craving (and you will), be prepared for it. Have a little honey in your tea. If the craving is out of control, fix yourself a cocoa with soy milk. But remember, it's only for emergencies, don't have it every day.
Keep us posted on your progress!
Bev
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Are you unable to tolerate any protein?? Have you tried a little chicken breast chopped up in your rice or noodles?? Can you do tuna fish or turkey?? Protein will hlep you feel full longer and help you snack less.
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Oops, sorry, I guess I didn't read your post well enough, it says you do eat chicken and fish. Try snacking on a few pieces of lunch meat instead of the breads. Try making a big thing of pasta salad with tuna and a few peas to keep on hand for "munching"
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wellll geeeeeez, I think I'd just print out jenX's message for rice goodies and do that every day!!!
For what it's worth, though, this MAY help. Quite a few years ago I took off about 35 lbs one summer (it was after-baby fat) and there were three key things I did to make it happen.
FIRST, mess up your eating schedule. Spend at least a week on this. Never eat at the same time twice. Eat breakfast at 5 am and the next day don't eat till 9 am. Then eat at 8 am and the next day not till 10:30 am. Same with lunch. Same with supper. Eat at bedtime. Skip lunch. Eat three times in the afternoon. The goal is to get your "clock" so screwed up that it never knows if it's meal time or not. This will cut out about 80 percent of the "I'm hungry" thing. Also, be sure if you get a hunger attack, you check the clock AND WAIT AT LEAST 45 MINUTES before you eat.
SECOND, eat only one food at a time. I mean, one INGREDIENT at a time. For example, here's what I did to myself: you want a hamburger with mayo and mustard and pickles and lettuce and tomato? Fine. One at a time. You can have the hamburger. Wait an hour. Then you get the bun. Dry. An hour later, if you still want the tomato, you can have that. An hour later, you still want the lettuce? Eat lettuce. This is probably more of a mental thing than a nutritional thing, but it worked really well for me. After a while I *liked* dry toast and didn't *want* a candy bar anymore. And the fat sorta melted off and I was never hungry. "one food at a time" eliminates things like cherry pie, see? Can't be done. But you can eat cherries.
THIRD, pick one free day (like Saturday) where you can have "forbidden" foods. Like that hamburger or that cherry pie. Tell yourself all week long, "you can eat that on Saturday." When Saturday comes along you can eat a whole cherry pie if you want to, but you probably won't want to, and you won't do it all day long.
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Thanks to everyone for their words of wisdom. I will try to incorporate them into my daily routine. Now that I have found a place where everyone else is going through the same thing, it will make it that much easier! Dawn
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Re: rice
#62843 - 04/20/04 05:22 AM
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jenX
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Quote:
FIRST, mess up your eating schedule. Spend at least a week on this. Never eat at the same time twice. Eat breakfast at 5 am and the next day don't eat till 9 am. Then eat at 8 am and the next day not till 10:30 am. Same with lunch. Same with supper. Eat at bedtime. Skip lunch. Eat three times in the afternoon. The goal is to get your "clock" so screwed up that it never knows if it's meal time or not. This will cut out about 80 percent of the "I'm hungry" thing. Also, be sure if you get a hunger attack, you check the clock AND WAIT AT LEAST 45 MINUTES before you eat.
THIS WORKS!?
what a great theory! i'm going to have to try that.
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