Damage to the coccyx
#355506 - 02/10/10 01:25 PM
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An injury to the coccyx can definitely cause problems to the mind-body connection, as can removal of the coccyx. I defer to Syl and Shawnerice to provide the detailed clinical studies on such. 
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What the heck is a coccyx?
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The tailbone right? I have injury from their when I gave birth to my son 6 years ago. He broke it and i didn't know so it healed pointed in way to much. I suffer alot from pain there and have steroid shots to help manage. When i talked to the specialist about the removal of it they told me it was a 50/50 chance it would work, high rate of infection, 2-3 month recovery and it would get way worse first before it got better. This just didn't seem worth to me, so I have opted to manage the pain with shots every 6months. It is some of the worst pain ever!!
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The coccyx is the very bottom end of your spine. When injured or removed is does damage the mind-body connection. Once again, I defer to Syl or Shawneric for details and studies around this.
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LOL :) -nt
#355565 - 02/11/10 09:01 AM
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LOL 
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Damage to the coccyx can cause some very serious medical problems. Please don't take this lightly nor make fun of it. It isn't funny at all.
Also, when you don't know what some body part is, simply go to dictionary.com and get your answer there.
Shame on those who think this is a laughing matter.
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Angela,
I am not a doctor, though I worked hospitals for 25 years. You are absolutely doing the right thing. Never have your coccyx removed unless absolutely necessary after a second and/or third opinion from specialists in this field. I don't think that you will need the cortisone shots forever, as eventually the inflammation calms down. Hang in there!
Also you can try tumeric capsules which can help heal and soothe inflammed broken bones and avoid such surgical interventions. This is a natural herb. For fractures or bone inflammations 3 capsules 3 times a day is recommended. These are easy to swallow in capules.
You can purchase these anywhere, but the least costly place is Puritans Pride which is direct from the manufacturer and very high quality. You might want to check this out as they are presently having a buy 2 get 3 free sale. All products have at least a two-year expiration date. Shipping is $4.95 for all that you order in one shipment. They also have great vitamins, special supplements, and lots of spices too!
http://www.puritan.com/turmeric-510?searchterm=tumeric&rdcnt=1&page=1&sortOrder=2
You might be very surprised! I had a fractured knee last year and my orthopedist thought for sure I was going to land in the emergency room requiring screws and wiring on my dangling knee. No... didn't happen. I wore the leg splint prescribed, took tumeric and I healed very well with full range of motion. My orthpedist was entirely shocked as I am no spring chicken. I showed him!... too funny. 
My best to you, and do your homework around coccyx injuries. I'm hoping that Syl or Shawneric will input on this, as it is no way a laughing matter like some apparently think. Coccyx injuries can be extremely painful. I'm sorry that two posters laughed about this and I find that very mean spirited. Injuries to the coccyx is not funny at all, it can be very painful and I do understand and empathasize. Take good care of yourself and discard what mean spirited people say.
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Sorry there Windchimes but if I wanted to go to the dictionary..I would have.
I'm not saying it is a laughing matter to set the record straight for you.
I have actually broken my tailbone also.I fell off a ladder and landing on a piece of cabinetry that didn't have a top.Should have heard MY scream and seen my bruises.
It didn't affect my IBS at all either just my A**.
You really need to lighten up.
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Dragonfly your post "what the heck is a coccyx" just struck my funny bone for some reason !!
Windchimes: I wasn't laughing at your post in general.
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want to email me so I can chat outside boards? my email is in my profile.
HAHAHAHHAHAH 
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... when someone is genuinely hurting from an injury, such as coccyx. These such injuries can be very serious and cause significant medical repurcussions.
I suggest you remove you LOL post and correspond directly with aperson if you two want to giggle about these things.
I perceive these boards as a place to encourage others, learn and grow and not make jokes out of serious things. Such only serves to hurt the suffering person.
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As I previously posted I wasn't making fun of your post. I'm all too familiar with coccyx/tailbone injuries as my abusive ex-fiancee took it upon himself to pick me up and throw me on my rear end. Ended up in the ER for x-rays and pain meds. So, I know what it's like to be "genuinely hurting" from a tailbone injury. I'm not removing anything. I'm sure this thread will be deleted as most of the threads you write in do.
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my email to you came back undeliverable...
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mn_211@yahoo.com or m_nice16@hotmail.com
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Do I honestly have to respond about this?
I'm Mean spirited?
i would suggest you start rereading your posts since coming on these boards.
Didn't say it was funny but seriously windchimes you have got to lighten up.
I find humor in everything otherwise I will end up a crabby old witch.
Not gonna happen.I love to laugh and coincidentally...it helps me not think about my IBS.
Try not to take offence to everything you read. Seriously.
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Hey I don't take life too seriously...why bother? I'd be depressed all the time.
I thought maybe the word was actually misspelled.I guess I should have use the dictionary first.  My bad.
I am glad I am not the only one who finds humor in lifes simple things. Thank you!
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When someone is seriously hurting, the last thing they need is a drum roll of "LOL nt" posts, in this case started (insited) by you. Most are looking for suggestions, answers, some support and kindness. Responders should learn to use discretion and know when to laugh WITH them when they are laughing and not post inappropriate responses when they are serious and feel discouraged.
If you want laughs about every day simple things, check out the Maxine site and laugh there. IBS is not fun, nor is a problem with a once fractured coccyx. It is no place to make inappropriate LOL's to keep yourself from feeling depressed.
Join jhuggs and aperson directly and take your sick humor there. Some of us are here to show kindness and hopefully help another feel better physically, mentally, and spiritually.
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we all suffer from Irritable bowel,suffering is not funny and really sucks,I still think the words Irritable bowel sounds hilarious. just like the c word they were talking about.. It was weird sounding and I also thought of something dirty,if u know what I mean. I am certainly not laughing at the person who damged that part of their body..only laughing at the funny word and other thoughts that came to mind.
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that anyone is laughing about the originial topic. This thread has branched off and away from the originial post. This happens quite frequently here.
I have also had problems and pain with my tailbone for many years. I hit it when I was about 14 and then when I had my frist child I was in so much pain at the end of my pregnancy that I could barely sit. My daughter was born 30 years ago.
Were you talking about your own pain Windchimes? If so, I am sure that everyone here would offer their support.
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That since windchimes has been on these boards there is more arguing going on than anything else. I have ibs-d and at first nothing to me was funny cause I didn't understand it or know how to cope with it. Since being on these boards it has helped me to both understand more and cope and take matters into my own hands with my health and find a place to laugh about our situations rather than cry. I to find humor in all the little things. What tickels one at the moment might not the other but to all his own. I don't think everyone should be so serious around here and if you take it that way just stop reading the post and move on. Just my opionion
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But Windchimes
#355685 - 02/12/10 01:20 PM
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Your original post didn't say anything about someone being hurt.
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Syl, I just can't resist this...that is a first.  But at least you man up enough and admit it. There are those who wouldn't.
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... some people think everything is funny and make mean remarks. This is not kind nor helpful for those who are hurting. Would you like to be laughed at if you made an honest remark or asked a sincere question? I doubt it.
If the original poster is laughing at themselves, then feel to laugh WITH them. If not, don't laugh AT them! Doing such is mean spirited and hurts people. That is not what we are here for.
Simple answer, and do be respectful of other people's needs.
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... When posts start becoming ship wrecked or train wrecked, it's time to stop the WAR!!! Not supportive to anyone attempting to learn and be supportive. Pure and simple.
This is not a playground!
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That isn't really responsive to what I said. You're accusing people of laughing at someone who is suffering but your original post didn't talk about anyone suffering. It was just a general comment about the possible consequences of an injured tailbone. And the people who were laughing weren't laughing at you or at someone"s suffering. They were laughing at the word itself or possibly because someone asked what a coccyx is and they were laughing at themselves because they wanted to ask the same thing and didn't. And after a while I suspect some people were laughing because they wanted to show solidarity with other posters they consider friends who were being lectured by you. Which is why I'm in the middle of this mess.
I have to echo DoubleJ here, Windchimes. You have the potential to be a real asset to these Boards. You're knowledgeable, you want to help, you're generous with your time. But you are so sure you know how everyone else should act that you're alienating the very people you could be helping.
There are always going to be people on these Boards you can't stand; goodness knows there are people on these Boards I can't stand. But you'll make yourself and everyone else here crazy if you can't learn to just ignore them. You can't be a policeman on these Boards. I know, I've tried. A statement like this:
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If the original poster is laughing at themselves, then feel to laugh WITH them. If not, don't laugh AT them!
isn't going to accomplish a thing except to make everyone who reads it say, "You can't tell me what to do." And you can't. But if you said, "It hurts my feelings when I feel like people here are laughing at me" you might be surprised to find that most people truly want to be kind.
We're all different, Windchimes. Some of us are comfortable with Greek words and dictionaries; some of us aren't. Some of us are young; some aren't. Some of us giggle in the back of the room no matter what's being talked about; some of us sit in the front row, pay strict attention, and never crack a smile. It doesn't make some of us valuable and and some of us not. It just makes us different.
Cut us all some slack, Windchimes. We're mostly decent people around here.
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Oh Sand, you always write everything I want to write. Very well written.
Windchimes, I don't have any other advice other than to take Sand's advice to heart. Please.
With that said, my days on these boards are nearing the end. I've been lurking mostly for a few months and with this drama, I prefer to stay that way. I just had to tell Sand that she wrote a beautiful, eloquent, and heartfelt post.
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#355706 - 02/12/10 06:41 PM
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You will be missed but I do understand. I am feeling the same way myself.
Good luck!
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#355707 - 02/12/10 06:42 PM
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It is so nice to see you here in the Living Room. I sure have missed your posts and words of wisdom.
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should be a place where we can come and laugh, be silly, discuss movies, music, tv shows or books and anything else that does not have to do with IBS. We all need a break from discussing and thinking about IBS. We live it every day and sometimes it is nice to be able to forget it for awhile.
Let's lighten up and try to discuss non IBS topics in the living room. Believe it or not it does help to take our minds off of our health and bathroom issues.
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Well, wait a minute. What does the coccyx have to do with IBS? Is there a connection?
I say we take all medical out of the LR, and make it about anything but medical issues. How bout it, everyone?
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#355713 - 02/12/10 07:07 PM
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I believe Windchimes was referring to Angela E. being in much pain from a broken coccyx. Angela's post is down at the bottom of the thread. She replied to Windchime's original post on 2/10. Even though nothing was mentioned in Windchime's original post about pain, I think it was all about Angela's post/pain. Windchimes, correct me if I am wrong.
I believe Windchimes felt that several were making light of Angela's pain. Whether that was the case or not, I am only giving my take on the situation.
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I guess you just like to fight. If that's what you want it's ok with me, I won't object.
What troubles me is your inaccurate and misleading posts with constant backtracking by including new caveats to the original in subsequent posts. At least 3 come to mind:
1. Not advising that barley grass powder is high in IF in the original post.
2. Advising Cipro to treat parasites.
3. Insisting that a colonoscopy is neccessary to diagnose ibs even though The Rome criteria don't require it.
4. There are others.
Please be careful about what you post. Thanks.
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To be honest with you, Capricorn, a colonoscopy is the FIRST thing I had done. It may not be necessary nor the Rome criteria require it, but it certainly gave me peace of mind. Along with having the peace of mind to know I did not have cancer, I also found out I did not have colitis, diverticulitis, etc. So, for me it was well worth it. I personally think it should be done, regardless if it is required or deemed necessary. But that is IMHO.
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I agree with you about the importance of a colonoscopy. I've had it done 3 times over the past 10 years. But that was not the issue as stated in my post.
Anyway, thank you for your important comments about colonoscopy.
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You're welcome.
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And although both grandparents died of colon cancer, my GI doc says it isn't necessary until you are older since they are more hazard to IBS than help. That is only if IBS runs in your family (or genes ) and you are a classic case.
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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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I don't know about mind-body connection and the coccyx, but if I hurt my tailbone I would grab the stool softeners ASAP, eat safe foods, drink a lot and try to not take pain killers.
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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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It detects more than colon cancer and I had one at 28 and glad I did. Then you can rule out other serious disorders, not necessarily just cancer. I rest more comfortable with an IBS DX when I know other serious disorders are ruled out.
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Well, hopefully this will change in the near future, especially for those who have digestive troubles. It may just save lives!!!!!!!!
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People with classic IBS do not have any more chance of colon cancer before 50 or so than someone without it. For classic IBS issues, with a family history of such, there is no reason to do a colonoscopy. For those without IBS in the family, who are older, who don't have perfect IBS symptoms, who have a family history of young cancer or other problems, or whose digestive troubles start suddenly, a colonoscopy is a must.
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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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I am not speaking of colon cancer, per my post. I am very happy that I had it done, to rule out other issues.
I am also not speaking about "need or reason", or being mandatory. I am talking about choice, and I am glad I had the opportunity to have it done. To each his own.
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Due to the increasing use of evidence based medicine there is likely to be a decrease in the use of colonoscopy particularly when it comes to diagnosing IBS. The new Rome III guidelines for diagnosing IBS don't require a colonoscopy particularly in individuals under 50 years.
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Yes, you are right when it comes to IBS and for the reason you gave. But there are other reasons that the traditional colonoscopy will decrease in usage:
1. The advent of the virtual colonoscopy which still requires preparation (laxatives). The colon is the filled with air and a cat scan or mri images the colon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_colonoscopy
2. An Israeli company - Given Imaging (Nasdaq: GIVN) has been successfully making and selling a device/procedure called capsule endoscopy which images the small intestine. The patient swallows a small pill like camera which transmits images to a device on a belt worn on the waist. They are now making and selling a device/procedure called capsule colonoscopy which images the colon in a similar manner. Again, this requires preparation (laxatives).
http://capsuleny.com/colonoscopy.html
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Hey Capricorn, I find this very interesting. What you are saying here makes it sound like it may be a bit easier in the future, even though still involving laxatives. I am going to check out the links.
I have to say though, traditional or not, I am still happy that I was able to have it done. It gave me peace of mind. Maybe others would not choose that route, but it was right for me.
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These will never replace the need for regular colonoscopy. If a pollup is imaged, a regular colonoscopy will still be required to remove it (regular colonoscopy has a tool built on the cable to do this).
I had the capsule endoscopy done twice and it worked like a charm both times. It has (or should) completely eliminate the crude procedure known as "upper gi series" which I also had and which is a nightmare!
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Yeah, you are right. You would still have to go in to remove anything suspicious or possibly to biopsy an area. I like the fact that you do not have to be put under with these. But, if you can see what you need to see and be less invasive, then I am all for it.
Any improvements to less invasive in any test...I am all for it.
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Wow I had no idea this would spawn this much attention to my butt! I mean tailbone! First of all Windchimes thank you for your kind words. You are right it is some of the worst pain ever and I appreciate your insight and advice. I have however learned to be a bit humorous about it since it keeps my spirits up. You have to have humor when you talk about your bottom end whether it be the IBS or the coccyx. I did not take offense reading through all of this, however this does reaffirm my reason as to why I don't post much on these boards anymore. Too much drama and not enough support for each other anymore. So sad because these boards use to be a wonderful place full of friendships and great advice.
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I know exactly what you are saying about finding the humor in things. I always say I have to laugh to keep from crying.
All laughing aside, I also have tailbone pain and it is definitely painful. Kind of hard to avoid sitting. I have never seen a doc for it because I have never wanted to expose my bottom half, I know that is probably silly but I worked for Ortho docs for a couple of years and I figured there wasn't a whole lot they could do.
I do miss you around here. Hopefully you will pop back in more often.
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