I'm finally going to do it!
#242799 - 01/30/06 01:48 PM
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lalala
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And by "it" I mean talk to my doctor about a possible fibromyalgia diagnosis. A few people here know that I've been dealing with muscle pain, fatigue, insomnia, common fibro symptoms. But I don't have a fibro diagnosis because it's not something I've been wanting to bring up to my doctor. Well, I don't know why I've been so stubborn, except that I was feeling like I needed permission to admit to how bad I've been feeling. Ridiculous, I know! Especially when I'm the one holding me back from getting help.
A month ago I made an appointment for my physical, but today I called in to see if I could get in this week. I'm just waiting to hear if there are any cancellations.
I've been in a lot of pain the last few days, nothing new except that I'm tired of not knowing WHY. This has been happening off and on for the last eight years, maybe longer, and I've been periodically checked for RA and arthritis, thyroid problems, anemia, inflammation and infection, blood calcium levels, etc. Nothing is wrong with me except I feel bad and my doctors look at me and say, "You're perfectly healthy." I know a lot of you understand.
My current doctor has mentioned how sensitive I am to touch and a few years ago I was having swelling in my thumbs and the bottoms of my feet, but extensive testing showed up nothing. At my last visit, she suggested the next time I come in that she would search for something more systemic.
Because I had open heart surgery as a child, a few doctors have freaked when they see my nine inch scar and think they hear a murmur. I have to explain that my murmur corrected itself years ago and that sound they hear is blood rushing through my arteries which they can hear because I'm so thin. Last year, one doctor decided I should have an echocardiogram, which not only proved what I said but also showed that there was no sign I had even had heart surgery! No scar tissue, no murmur. So, I'm very thankful for that! (But that's why I had the surgery, so I could be "normal.")
I don't know what I need right now or what I should do. I'm afraid I'll have to quit my job if I continue on this path and I'm already feeling like a failure. Sorry to be such a drag. I'll make sure to post on the "What I'm Thankful For" thread to balance this out.
Edited by SPASMTASTICAL! (01/30/06 02:27 PM)
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Good for you! Sweetie - I understand. No one really wants to admit that there's a possiblity of something as nasty as fibro. I'm really impressed that you took the step to get tested. At least you'll know. Don't worry about the future and all that. Take it one day at a time. We all know lots of people here who deal with fibro every day. I'm sure they can relate. For us that don't have fibro like me - I'm sending you TONS of gentle hugs! A.
-------------------- Formerly HanSolo. IBS, OCD, Bipolar, PTSD times 3.
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Thank you for taking the time to read this and respond. I think I just needed to hear that I'm doing the right thing from someone who understands how hard that first step is. I'll try not to dwell too much on the future - or the past! Thanks again - your kindness is very much appreciated!
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Good luck, Maria. It's brave of you to pursue this aggressively and I sincerely hope you get the answers you need - preferably good ones. As for not bringing up fibromyalgia with your doctors sooner, I believe people deal with what they can when they can.
I hope you can get in to see your doctor soon. Let us know how it goes.
Take care.
-------------------- [Research tells us fourteen out of any ten individuals likes chocolate. - Sandra Boynton]
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You rock you know that? *gentle hugs*
If you have any questions there are more than a handful of us here who can help you and who can relate...
I'm sorry you have to feel pain. I'm sorry no one knows why (yet). But we're gonna help you figure it out
You're gonna get through this one way or another. If you have fibro...you'll get help from us, your doc, and all your loved ones. Nothing will change and everything will change...but the most important thing is that you will still be you *hugs*
Check out butyoudon'tlooksick.com There are tons of ppl there who get it! And loads of new friends to make
Sending you loads of love, gentle hugs, and more love,
Ruchie
-------------------- Formerly known as Ruchie
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Ruchie - Thank you for all your support and suggestions! Your sweet response made me tear up!
I've been doing searches here on fibro (Wow! Lots of info!)and then went to check out BYDLS (very cool site that I'm also recommending to my friend with PCOS).
Love,
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Re: Sand
#242919 - 01/30/06 06:46 PM
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lalala
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As for not bringing up fibromyalgia with your doctors sooner, I believe people deal with what they can when they can.
Sand, I'm glad you said this - it's very true. I think this time last year I was just trying to get stable w/ my IBS and couldn't focus on anything else. Thanks for the well-wishes!
How have you been doing? Have you had a chance to find that Edward Gorey book?
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#242935 - 01/30/06 09:11 PM
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How have you been doing? Have you had a chance to find that Edward Gorey book?
IBS-wise I'm doing well - my tummy is settling back into stability, thank goodness. Unfortunately, I've done "something" to my leg, so I've been somewhat house-bound. Finally saw a specialist about it today - he thinks it's just a pulled/strained/generally cranky muscle, so it's going to be mega-Motrin and physical therapy for a while. Anyhow, long explanation for why I haven't been out book-shopping. Although it's funny - I found myself thinking about the Gorey book this afternoon. Perhaps there's something about X-rays that makes me think of Gorey.
Thanks for asking.
-------------------- [Research tells us fourteen out of any ten individuals likes chocolate. - Sandra Boynton]
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Hi Maria!
I'm glad I made you smile
Keep posting and updating us...we all care about you!
With love,
Ruch
-------------------- Formerly known as Ruchie
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That sucks! How long do you think you'll be housebound? Maybe you could use your gift cards online.
Take care and get better, Sand!
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I know when I finally got my diagnosis of fibro and RA, I wasn't real happy about it but I was finally glad to know why I feel like I do all the time! Good for you for getting up the courage to try and get some answers. The answers aren't always easy but I think in the long run it helps us cope!
-------------------- Taking it one day at a time.....
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I really need to do this too, Maria. I think I'm just not mentally ready for another syndrome either. I'm still working on the IBS one!
Good for you for being brave enough to do it! I hope you don't have it, though. But if you do, there are many intelligent folks on here to help you cope!
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Nothing is wrong with me except I feel bad and my doctors look at me and say, "You're perfectly healthy." I know a lot of you understand.
Yep, totally understand that! Frustrating isn't it. Especially if your doctor isn't compassionate enough to know that you can still hurt even though a test doesn't prove it!
Did you get an appointment set up yet?
-------------------- ~ Beth
Constipation, pain prodominent,cramps, spasms and bloat!
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Nope, I haven't heard back, but I already have my physical set up for the end of February. Yesterday, I just felt like I couldn't wait another week and that I better call before I chicken out again.
Thanks for your support, Beth. I don't feel brave, just desperate.
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Michele, you're one of the people who has motivated me to push my doctor for some answers. Even though I'm not planning to have children, I don't know what the future holds and I started to realize that I should start taking control of my health now. So, thank you very much for sharing your experiences!
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-------------------- Taking it one day at a time.....
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Thanks, Maria. I'll start therapy later this week and the theory is I'll be back to 100% in a few weeks.
I probably will have to do my shopping on-line ultimately - my family, bless their little hearts - keeps giving me gift cards for Books-A-Million of which there are exactly 0 in my area. Before I do that, though, I want to do some browsing in my local used bookstore which requires a lot of physical dexterity. Maybe I'll ask my therapist to focus on "exercises suitable for used bookstore browsing" - floor-sitting, book moving, high reaching, etc.
I'll keep my fingers crossed you can see your doctor before the end of February.
Take care.
-------------------- [Research tells us fourteen out of any ten individuals likes chocolate. - Sandra Boynton]
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Beth!!!
#243138 - 01/31/06 12:53 PM
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You can do it!!! I know you can *hugs*
Sending you the strength to find the courage you have within!
Love,
Ruch
-------------------- Formerly known as Ruchie
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-------------------- Formerly HanSolo. IBS, OCD, Bipolar, PTSD times 3.
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You DO have a lot! Even when depserate there are those who take no action...you have courage!!!
-------------------- Formerly known as Ruchie
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Good for you! The knowing sucks, but the not knowing sucks even more. Here's hoping you find some answers.
-------------------- jen
"It's one of the most serious things that can possibly happen to one in a battle -- to get one's head cut off." -- LC
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Good luck and be strong! You are the most important advocater with your health. Don't be afraid to be pushy and ask questions. I think this day and age doctors are overwhelmed with the amount of patients they see and they need us to be thorough to help them better help us!! Hope you get some answers!
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Something snagged at the edge of my consciousness when I read your post, but it took a couple of days to float into focus. At the end of your post you said:
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I don't know what I need right now or what I should do. I'm afraid I'll have to quit my job if I continue on this path and I'm already feeling like a failure. Sorry to be such a drag. I'll make sure to post on the "What I'm Thankful For" thread to balance this out.
What did you mean by "I'm already feeling like a failure"?
-------------------- [Research tells us fourteen out of any ten individuals likes chocolate. - Sandra Boynton]
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You're right. I'm at the point where not knowing SUUUUCKS.
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Thanks for your support! Yes, I really need to be pushier with my doctor. She's great but can only work with what info I give her. I do get anxious when I go in to see her, so I'm going to have to do some preparation, write a list, etc. Thanks again, Angela! Take care!
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Go for it!
#243337 - 02/01/06 08:50 AM
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Best thing I ever did. It's so worth getting treated! The older I get, the more I realize that there are some things that are not worth compromising, and quality of life is one of them!
We'll give you all the support in the world. {{{{HUGS}}}}
~nelly~
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Sand,
Okay, this is the fourth time I've tried to answer that question. I'm somewhat embarrassed by what I wrote, but I needed to vent and it's true that I feel that way. Every time I hear that I'm healthy, I feel that I must be doing something wrong to be keeping myself from feeling/getting better. Every time I miss work, and I only work part-time, I worry that I'll have to quit my job and become totally dependent on my partner or family. On those days where I do nothing but sleep or lie down, I feel like a slug that has nothing to offer the people around me, the community, the world.
I was taught that it's important to help those who are less fortunate, to give back to the community, to volunteer - and the last couple of years has been the first time in my life that I'm not volunteering. I'm afraid that not being active will make me lose perspective and I feel like there are so many people who are suffering and need help that I need to do something, but I can't. It's hard to explain, and the more I write the more embarrassed I feel. Plus, I'm afraid I may go into pity-party mode and I'm trying to shake myself out of this funk.
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Thank you for your support! You know, I get a lot of love from my friends and family, but support is something totally different that I've been missing out on. This is the first place where I feel I can be completely honest and people will not only understand but they'll really listen and believe what I'm saying.
"Quality of life" - that's exactly what I think is getting to me.
Thank you again. I was so happy to hear your clinic visit was a success. *hugs!*
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Good feeling
#243471 - 02/01/06 04:15 PM
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Hey, Maria!
I totally get what you said about getting love vs. support!! I really depend on the boards for support, and it would be otherwise lacking if I didn't have all of my friends here. Even so, it took me a year between the time I declared to Ruchie on the boards that I was finally going out to get my diagnosis (Dec '04), and the time I actually did (yesterday). And I'm so glad Laura Sue, Tissy, Ruchie and Mel went through it before I did, because as it turns out, I'm a big, procrastinating chicken (bukking noises in the background ).
I talked to Mel on the phone this afternoon and I mentioned how excited for you I was that you were getting close to going for the diagnosis. I sat in a room with six other fibromites yesterday, and I've never felt this much love and compassion from a group of people in person as I did in that waiting room. A girl gave me a hug as I left. What I have is real, and it has a name. When I'm in that office getting IV treatments and support from people just like me I am exactly where I have to be, I decided. What's terrifying is that I might get well and have to live out the rest of my life as a different person. Getting well is actually an option for my future now. Getting the diagnosis is so far behind me, and it was yesterday. It's so weird.
I hope you make that appointment soon and talk to your doc! If he's not the right doc for you, I know we can find a good one if we all put our minds together. And don't worry about what to say because I know we can figure all of that out! Speaking from the heart and communicating all your symptoms will get your point across. I have a good feeling about you as soon as I read your post!!! I know you can do it. Don't feel bad about any sluglike behavior. You're sick and there's help. {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
~nelly~
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Jeeez, NO-ONE in this country has a place like that. The one and only Fibro clinic is big on tender point injections...including BOTOX! No thank you!
As I said to my MIL, if money really was no object, then I'd be flying to the states every month just for a doctors apt! Even my parents-in-law aren't THAT rich.
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It's sooo awesome having someone with the same doctor as me, so we can compare notes! Love my doctor, he's expensive, but absolutely fabulous!
-------------------- Melissa
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Thank you, Nelly, for this great response. I read it last night and it was something I really needed to hear. If you had told me that in person I would have given you a big kiss on the forehead.
Instead, I managed a stiff little jig of joy. I just was so happy to hear that I have support, that you're finally finding what you need, that you and Mel get to share such a marvelous doctor, and that you have a good feeling about me and getting a diagnosis.
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What's terrifying is that I might get well and have to live out the rest of my life as a different person. Getting well is actually an option for my future now. Getting the diagnosis is so far behind me, and it was yesterday. It's so weird.
Terrifying yet exciting! It blows my mind trying to imagine what life would be like without these disorders/conditions.
I'll be sure to update once I see my doc!
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Do they shoot it into your tenderpoints? Uh, weird! Would it even work?
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Is it for the fibro or something else! I know your just getting back but come on, we want the details!!!!
-------------------- Taking it one day at a time.....
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Yes update!
#243670 - 02/02/06 01:47 PM
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I can't wait to hear about the visit. You're going to be better! We're all going to get through it together, too.
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{BIG HUGS!}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
~nelly~
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OK, I already have mentioned this in some of my email replies, so bear with me. I'm getting through all this information, as much as I can stand every night, and it's all going well so far! Just so much to read!!
So my office visit was on Tuesday and the patients in the office I met were really nice and they all had stories really similar to mine. Unbelievably, there were 2 other patients in the room from Maryland as well! My mom was like, "They have to open a clinic in Maryland now!" Or not, if they keep coming to PA.
I saw the doctor for 1 hour and 45 minutes, and he listened to me and agreed that it definitely sounded like I had fibro. He spent a lot of time drawing me diagrams of what my cells and brain were doing. He told me he'd be taking blood to run tests on my thyroid, hormone levels, levels of nutrient deficiency, pituitary, and adrenal glands. I came back 30 vials later (feeling like hell) and he started me on an IV of... well I don't know what it was, but it made me feel much better. I'm supposed to come back weekly for similar IVs, but it's $250 a pop and 320 miles RT, so he's going to see me every 2 weeks instead. Maaybe Mel can update a little on what's in the IV. I just can't find the piece of paper where they wrote down all the meds in it.
In any case, I went today to pick up my syringes and needles, plus all the pills the doc prescribed me. In all this is what they have given me:
Their vitamines:
DHEA
Pro-Boost
Energy Extract
Rest and Restore
Release and Renew
3 injectables: AMP, B-12, and Glutathione
Baclofen 20mg --one at night for sleep, but I think I'll just stick to a half
Hydrocodone 5/500 – 2 a day for breakthrough pain (I was nervous he wouldn't prescribe me that one, and I am RELIEVED he did, cos now I can move without too much pain.)
Add that to the 19 other pills I'm taking for IBS plus the depo provera shot. It's a lot of meds for someone who doesn't "look sick," but I don't care. Whatever Works!
I did have a brief moment of "I don't think I can handle this" when I picked up the syringes. It passed soon enough, but it left me a little shaken. I'm going to have to get through my fear of needles pretty quick, I think. BF says to practice on the dog. Just kidding. My mom keeps offering to do it for me, but my spidey sense says NO WAY. My idea is to go to the health clinic in the area and make them teach me how to do it. I'm going to make an appointment and say "I need a shot" and just show up with my tupperware container full o' stuff.
The best thing, of course, is that I met up with Melissa while I was in PA, and she's going to let me stay overnight with her the day I get my treatments. She goes every month for treatment, so we're going to synch up our schedules so we can go together. The treatment room (sounds scary but it isn't ) is actually a room full of barcoloungers where patients get their IVs and talk to each other about how they got there and what treatments they're on. During mine, a girl named Suzane told me her story and gave me a hug when we were leaving. Another named Jolie was there with her DH, and she too was bedridden for 2 years, like I was at 19. It was unbelievably affirming to talk with them. It was *almost * just like the boards, with the free exchange of information and support. Really cool.
So I go back on the 27th of February to get my blood test results and do another IV treatment. Before that I'm going to have to start giving myslef the AMP, B-12, and Glutathione shots once a week. (!!!) I suppose the weekend is the best time for me to do this. I just found out they're going to have to go in my thigh. I might have to draw a cartoon strip of Nelly's First Jab in order to convey the utter absurdity of giving myself a shot. Mere words will not do.
The only downside to all of the help I got this week is that it set my mother back *gulp* $2,530.00. When I consider that's as much as my hospital bill last year (3 days in a room with a nasal-gastric tube and pain meds) and the hospital stay did nothing for me, well, that might be a bargain by comparitive medical cost standards.
I hope this therapy will be what I'm lacking. I don't know what I'll do with myself if I get well. I can't imagine having all the energy of a normal person. (Actually, I'm having fun imagining having all the energy of a normal person!!!)
~nelly~
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because they're so expensive and because I'd have to go once a week or so. And with my school schedule it's just not feasible. However, if Nelly ends up having luck with them, I may have to reconsider...
Anyways, I'm not entirely sure what's in them, but based upon the stuff that's in the IM shots, my guess is vitamins and amino acids, and stuff like that....I think one of them has DMSO in it, but I could be wrong. Nelly, I think they should have given you a sheet outlining what was in it, but I'm not sure?
I know the injectible stuff is: ADP, which is the precursor to ATP which your muscles use as an energy source, B12 for more energy, and glutithione is an antioxidant to help clean out possible oxidizing agents from your muscle to help with the pain. I'd be on these if I wasn't so small that the shot literally made me go into shock from the pain!
-------------------- Melissa
Friendship is thicker than blood. ~Rent
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Wow, that is a lot of info!!!!! I would really like to know the IV cocktail so I can ask my dr about it, maybe Mel can help????
Don't stress over the giving yourself the shots! I was jabbing myself in the tummy daily and the ass monthly when I was going fertility treatments! The anxiety over doing it is worse than the shot itself! The key is not to over think it! If you are afraid it will hurt, numb the spot with an ice cube first! I assume sine they are in your thigh, they are sub-q so the needles should be fairly small! I had to put on one needle to draw up my medication than switch the needle top to the one I injected myself with. Don't hesitate, just jab but push the "drugs" in slowly if it burns at all! Email me if you need more help or encouragement! I didn't think I could do it either, especially in my already bloated and IBD ridden tummy but you get over it, really you do!
Thats so great that you and Mel can hook up and get your treatments at the same time!!!!
-------------------- Taking it one day at a time.....
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Very interesting! I'm already on mega b vitamins plus the malic magnesium supplement you guys suggested and my pre-natals still just for the heck of it! I also take vit E and some stuff called Ambrotose by Mannatech, its supposed to be food for the body's cells or something like that. Will's cusin sells Mannatech products (vitamins and stuff) and swears that his mom has fibro and this stuff helps her. Who knows, I figure it can't hurt! LOL!!! Than the rheumy has me on Ambien and Zanaflex at bedtime to help me get the restorative sleep and started me on placquenil for the RA. I'm also taking lots of Tylenol as I only have a few Vicodins left and I'm still taking some Xanax as needed.
Keep us posted on those treatments and let us know how much they help. I'm not sure whats more painful right now the fibro or the RA??
-------------------- Taking it one day at a time.....
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You rock, Michele!
#243686 - 02/02/06 02:39 PM
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Thanks for the confidence booster! You've been through so much and I so appreciate your experience! The icky part I don't like is when I jab my thigh, I have to draw back the plunger to make sure I don't get blood back in the syringe. OK, fainting, now!!
~nelly~
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Nelly, if you ever hit a vein in your thigh, I'd be so surprised I'd drive to your house just to see it! I'm serious, it would be darned near impossible! Don't worry about seeing blood, there won't be any, maybe a drop or two when you remove the needle but honestly, it won't be any more than when you pop a zit! You only have to pull back just ever so slightly, once you poke the needle in, it really won't hurt so you can pull back and then push the stuff in while taking your time and it won't cause any more pain! I do just want to clarify that you are using a sub-q syringe? The IM (intramuscular) syringes is a bit of a different story! The IM syringe is bigger and goes deeper so the initial poke is a little more painful than the sub-q but all the rest still applies! My tummy shots were sub-q and my ass shots were IM!!!
-------------------- Taking it one day at a time.....
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#244155 - 02/04/06 01:50 PM
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I think you explained your feelings very well and if I'm understanding you correctly, I think what you're feeling is pretty common. People with serious or debilitating illnesses often seem to feel they have failed in some way, either by getting sick in the first place or by being unable to carry on as normal once they are sick. When I was diagnosed with breast cancer, I apologized for not taking better care of myself. Insane in retrospect, but I've since read that such an apology is not uncommon.
I imagine the problem would be exacerbated by not having a diagnosis. The list of "wrong" things I could feel badly about was finite: not enough exercise, too much fat in my diet, drinking alcohol. With no diagnosis, the list of "wrong" things you can feel badly about is endless and sometimes contradictory: too little exercise, too much; too much fat, not enough; too few vitamins, too many; working in a sick office; living in a sick home (asbestos in the basement? radon in the ground? mold?); microwaves; margarine; computer screens; power lines. And, of course, there's always that eternal classic: Why didn't I [fill in the blank] sooner? See a doctor, insist on a test, do more research, read that book? I spent a lot of time with that one.
Beyond my wrong actions, of course, there were always my wrong thoughts and feelings. When I was undergoing treatment, there was still some reference in alternative treatment approaches to negative thoughts or repressed feelings causing cancer, but the main emphasis was on thinking and feeling correctly to get better. Reading about this approach caused me a fair amount of guilt and anguish even with a firm diagnosis; an array of great doctors; and a clear understanding of the disease process, the standard treatment, and the probable prognosis. With none of those, I imagine the suggestion that illness is a result of bad thinking and worse feeling would have even more power to induce guilt.
I'm not sure why this happens for other people, but for me it was a control issue. If I had somehow done something to make myself sick, then I was still in control of my life. On the other hand, if my illness "just happened", then I wasn't at fault, but I also wasn't in control.
Realizing the importance of the control issue was helpful in learning not to beat myself up. Another helpful realization was that if my experiences had happened to someone else, to a friend, I would never have thought she was a failure. And if she told me that's how she was thinking about herself, I'd tell her she was way off base.
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#244504 - 02/06/06 03:31 PM
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I think you explained your feelings very well and if I'm understanding you correctly, I think what you're feeling is pretty common. People with serious or debilitating illnesses often seem to feel they have failed in some way, either by getting sick in the first place or by being unable to carry on as normal once they are sick. When I was diagnosed with breast cancer, I apologized for not taking better care of myself. Insane in retrospect, but I've since read that such an apology is not uncommon. I wasn't aware that you had breast cancer. I'm not sure how much you are comfortable talking about it, but I hope you're doing well now. I understand that need to apologize, take responsibility for being sick, and you're right - it is a strange reaction and I wonder why we do that?
I imagine the problem would be exacerbated by not having a diagnosis. Yep. This past week, just letting myself think that I might have fibro, I've felt a lot better, more at peace with myself. Again, this is something else I don't understand, except that it gives me some control back. Instead of saying, "I don't know," I might actually be able to give an answer when asked why I'm tired/sore/stiff, etc.
Beyond my wrong actions, of course, there were always my wrong thoughts and feelings. When I was undergoing treatment, there was still some reference in alternative treatment approaches to negative thoughts or repressed feelings causing cancer, but the main emphasis was on thinking and feeling correctly to get better. Reading about this approach caused me a fair amount of guilt and anguish even with a firm diagnosis; an array of great doctors; and a clear understanding of the disease process, the standard treatment, and the probable prognosis. With none of those, I imagine the suggestion that illness is a result of bad thinking and worse feeling would have even more power to induce guilt. I'm constantly told to think positively. I don't feel guilty when I have negative thoughts, but I feel disappointed and foolish when I'm being positive and upbeat and still feel bad. I believe placing so much importance on such things is mostly superstition and is mostly done so people around you don't feel bad/guilty.
I'm not sure why this happens for other people, but for me it was a control issue. If I had somehow done something to make myself sick, then I was still in control of my life. On the other hand, if my illness "just happened", then I wasn't at fault, but I also wasn't in control. Oh, control is definitely an issue for me too! Lol. I always want to find an answer/cause and solve the problem. I always want evidence, logical conclusions, etc, which is pretty obvious when you see some of my replies on the IBS Diet board.
Realizing the importance of the control issue was helpful in learning not to beat myself up. Another helpful realization was that if my experiences had happened to someone else, to a friend, I would never have thought she was a failure. And if she told me that's how she was thinking about herself, I'd tell her she was way off base. Sand, you're brilliant! Thank you for your answer and for reminding me that I need to be treating myself as I would a friend. I do need to relax when it comes to issues of control, expectations, and acceptance. I really appreciate having you on the boards and respect what you have to say. "With all the rubbish people keep sticking in my head, it's a wonder that there's room for my brain." (Spike, Lies My Parents Told Me)
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#245431 - 02/10/06 09:01 AM
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Sand
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Loc: West Orange, NJ (IBS-D)
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I wasn't aware that you had breast cancer. I'm not sure how much you are comfortable talking about it, but I hope you're doing well now. I understand that need to apologize, take responsibility for being sick, and you're right - it is a strange reaction and I wonder why we do that? I'm doing very well now, thank you - Memorial Day Weekend this year will be 7 years since my last round of mainstream treatment. Heather or no Heather, we open a bottle of champagne every year.
I imagine the problem would be exacerbated by not having a diagnosis. Yep. This past week, just letting myself think that I might have fibro, I've felt a lot better, more at peace with myself. Again, this is something else I don't understand, except that it gives me some control back. Instead of saying, "I don't know," I might actually be able to give an answer when asked why I'm tired/sore/stiff, etc. It will be good for you to have a diagnosis. And, in the best of all possible worlds, I hope that diagnosis turns out to be something easily fixable - say, a rare condition resulting from a shortage of Vitamin Q3.
I'm constantly told to think positively. Easier said than done when you feel so ill. I don't feel guilty when I have negative thoughts, but I feel disappointed and foolish when I'm being positive and upbeat and still feel bad. I believe placing so much importance on such things is mostly superstition and is mostly done so people around you don't feel bad/guilty. Superstition. Want an interesting word/concept. I'd never thought about it that way. As for not wanting others around you to feel bad/guilty, oh, yeah, I understand that.
Oh, control is definitely an issue for me too! Lol. I always want to find an answer/cause and solve the problem. I always want evidence, logical conclusions, etc, which is pretty obvious when you see some of my replies on the IBS Diet board. Yes, I do see that in your Diet Board replies and I think it's a great trait, especially when combined with compassion as it it in you. Being somewhat (ahem) that way myself, it's hard to accept that sometimes there's no answer and sometimes even when there is an answer, it doesn't lead to a problem being fixed. I'm not terribly religious, but I remember reading something once that has always stuck with me: God always answers our prayers. It's just that, sometimes, the answer is "No".
Realizing the importance of the control issue was helpful in learning not to beat myself up. Another helpful realization was that if my experiences had happened to someone else, to a friend, I would never have thought she was a failure. And if she told me that's how she was thinking about herself, I'd tell her she was way off base. Sand, you're brilliant! Well, I've told people repeatedly that Maria will always give people the straight story, so, if you insist... Thank you for your answer and for reminding me that I need to be treating myself as I would a friend. I do need to relax when it comes to issues of control, expectations, and acceptance. Something else that's easier said than done, but definitely worth attempting, in my opinion. I really appreciate having you on the boards and respect what you have to say. Thanks, Maria. I feel exactly the same way about you. "With all the rubbish people keep sticking in my head, it's a wonder that there's room for my brain." (Spike, Lies My Parents Told Me) Great quote!
I'm going to be out of touch for a while. My Internet connection is kerflooey AND my Mac needs a new motherboard. (Why do these things never need a new fatherboard?) I should be back up and running before the end of February, but just in case I'm not - I'll be thinking of you when you see your doctor. Let us know how it goes.
Take care.
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