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Re: I'm just getting started! new
      #164721 - 03/28/05 11:53 AM
michele

Reged: 06/02/03
Posts: 6886
Loc: southeastern michigan

I moved into my house about 5 years ago and before than I'd never planted a flower before. Now, I've more garden than I can keep up!! I've planted mostly perrinals and always fill in with annauls in the spring but living in MI we can't really plant much until after Mothers Days. I don't grow and veggies and only a few herbs, mostly catnip for my kitties and some lavander. What kind of garden are you wanting to do? Veggies or Flowers? How much room do you have and what kind of soil is it, IE clay or sandy? Would it get mostly shade or sun? Give us some more info, maybe even post a picture of the area in question and I'd be glad to give you some advice!

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Re: I'm just getting started! new
      #164747 - 03/28/05 01:30 PM
Little Minnie

Reged: 04/16/04
Posts: 4987
Loc: Minnesota

Oh my not here in MN! I plant mine when the potato farmers do- sometime in early May. I am not positive about what temp they will handle. Where is Lake Crystal? I will give any info I can. My mom always answers things I can't answer.

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no idea on potatoes, but.. new
      #164783 - 03/28/05 03:11 PM
khyricat

Reged: 08/05/04
Posts: 3612
Loc: Michigan

mom ALWAYS planted peas on St patricks day... if we knew the weather was too bad for them she'd start them indoors and transplant outside later in the season...

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Re: Gardening- my favorite subject! new
      #164828 - 03/28/05 06:31 PM
ptillen

Reged: 06/27/04
Posts: 406
Loc: Milwaukee WI

I have a postage stamp backyard that I've transformed into a paved patio with nice perennial borders, and a little vegetable garden.
Our big project this summer, I think, is gonna be to make the patio into an "outdoor kitchen"- complete with fridge, sink, stovetops of some sort, perhaps a smoker, some storage for dishes and stuff, and table, seating, and buffet.
My husband, who was in a former life a professional chef, is going to begin teaching cooking classes in a few weeks, and wants to plan some outdoor lessons this summer. He hopes eventually to make it into a little cottage industry.
My job is just to make the surroundings as beautiful as possible.
Of course, it's still too early to begin any serious garden work here in the Milwaukee area- big parts of the ground are still frozen!- but today was the first day of springlike weather- around 60 degrees- and I did take the opportunity to prune spirea bushes and begin to clean up the beds a little.
I think I can plant lettuce and spinach this week too.

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What about squash? new
      #164861 - 03/29/05 03:26 AM
Linz

Reged: 09/01/03
Posts: 8242
Loc: England

When I get my garden sorted I want to see if I can grow some edible squash...preferably over a frame as my patch is so small. Any ideas for which ones will climb for me? Squashes are so much more an American thing.

I'm in a pretty mild area - 2 weeks of so-so snow and freezing temps this past winter!

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Re: Gardening- my favorite subject! new
      #164862 - 03/29/05 03:26 AM
khyricat

Reged: 08/05/04
Posts: 3612
Loc: Michigan

sounds like fun.. we have a smoker and 2 grills and DH uses all 3!

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Re: Gardening- my favorite subject! new
      #165012 - 03/29/05 11:42 AM
Little Minnie

Reged: 04/16/04
Posts: 4987
Loc: Minnesota

Wow you are doing good. I hope to do a little Thursday if the wind lets up. I don't mind it being colder that day, I like the cold.

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Re: What about squash? new
      #165016 - 03/29/05 11:47 AM
Little Minnie

Reged: 04/16/04
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Loc: Minnesota

Squash is definitely one to plant after the ground warms up and the chance of frost is gone. I don't love squash anymore but I think yellow summer squash or pattypan squash would be nice. For 'winter'squash I think butternut and acorn taste best. The difference is that summer squash is ready earlier and winter squash is ready with the pumpkins.

I think I will make a list of veggies and when to plant according to temps. Everyone should find out their local frost free date. Mine is May 15. We get frost on our low garden every year on the second week of May so I wait until the third week to plant tender stuff. It is hard to do since everyone else is planting and I want to too! One year we had severe frost after I planted. I covered my toma and pep and they still died! So I learned my lesson. This year I am trying wall o'waters.

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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Planting list for everyone new
      #165043 - 03/29/05 12:46 PM
Little Minnie

Reged: 04/16/04
Posts: 4987
Loc: Minnesota

There is a planting list in a catalog so I didn't have to do any work -just typing dates for ya all.
Ok here is the list with seed info but the dates are very vague so I will type in a few pieces of info now. The catalog is from Oregon so these are late dates for most people. Some things I haven't grown but will try to get accurate info by and by.

Artichokes 4/1 - 7/1 haven't grown; is perennial
Asparagus 5/1 - 7/1 ditto
Beans, Bush (snap) 5/15 - 7/1 start right around the frost free date and optional: plant a couple crops 2-3 weeks apart.
Beans, bush (dry) 5/15 - 6/7
Beans, Pole 5/15 - 6/7 same as bush, pole beans produce over a longer time but require a frame to grow on
Beets 4/1 - 7/15 haven't grown
Broccoli 4/1 - 7/15 plant before frost free date, can withstand cold, bugs are troublesome!
Brussels Sprouts 6/1 - 7/1 yuck!
Cabbage, Early 4/15 - 6/15 can't eat and so haven't grown
Cabbage, Late 5/15 - 7/15 you can grow 2 crops, one early and one later
Chinese Cabbage 5/15 - 8/15 very easy to grow, plant around mid spring. Does bolt in hot weather sometimes. Mine bolted last year for no reason.
Carrots 4/1 - 7/15 plant now, very early, mix seed with radishes since it is so small. Thin carrots seedlings as they grow.
Cauliflower, Early 4/15 - 6/15 same as broc
Cauliflower, Late 6/1 - 7/1
Celery 4/15 - 6/1 yuck
Collards 7/1 - 7/20 evidently these should be planted in warm summer soil
Corn 6/1 - 6/15 I think anytime after frost free date. My advice: (my dad's fam had a sweet corn farm) don't try to grow unless you have A LOT of room for it. If you grow one or two small rows you are just wasting space. You might get a few ears and no more.
Cucumbers 6/1 - 6/15 I plant on June 1. soil should be warm.
Kale 5/1 - 7/15
Kohlrabi 4/1 - 8/10
Leeks 3/1 - 5/15 plant a few crops. In my area they must be started by seed indoors in winter. I plant them around May 1
Lettuce 4/1 - 8/1 plant successive plantings every 2 weeks. harvest when young. Grow in a shady cool spot if possible. It bolts from heat, keep well watered.
Chicory/Endive 5/1 - 6/1
Melons 6/1 - 6/20 after soil warms up
Okra 5/15 - 6/15
Onions 4/5 - 6/1 cannot seed outdoors. Buy seedlings or sets and plant when still cold out. Mine go in mid April.
Parsley 3/1 - 6/1 cold tolerant
Parsnips 5/1 - 7/15
Peas 10/1 - 6/1 soak seeds overnight, can plant 2 crops 2-3 weeks apart. Mine go in early April when soil can be worked. Needs some support. Can plant a fall crop in early-mid August. Spray with fungus spray and give a lot of space to prevent mildew.
Peppers 3/15 - 4/15 start inside or buy plants. I start mine in Feb in the house. Plant when soil warms or use wall o'waters.
Pumpkins 5/15
Radish 3/1 - 8-15 plant early, grow with carrots.
Rhubarb 3/1 - 5/15
Rutabaga 6/1 - 7/15
Shallots 4/1-5/15 plant at the time of onions, use sets not seeds. Can plant in fall too.
Spinach 3/1 - 8/15 needs cool temps. Can grow a early and late crop. Water often to help stay cool.
Squash, Summer 5/15 - 6/15 after frost free date
Squash, Winter 5/15 - 6/15
Swiss Chard 4/1 - 7/15
Turnips 5/1 - 8/15
Tomatoes 4/1 - 5/1 start seeds in March, plants can be planted after frost free date or use wall o'waters.
Watermelons 6/1 - 6/20 after soil warms

Potatoes plant old ones with eyes, plant about early May in most places.
basil best to plant seedlings after frost free date, grow by tomatoes.
cilantro/coriander seed outside after frost date. plant a couple every two weeks. same with dill, grow dill by cucumbers.
© 2005 Territorial Seed



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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

Edited by Little Minnie (03/30/05 06:03 AM)

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Thanks Tamara! new
      #165156 - 03/29/05 10:33 PM
Linz

Reged: 09/01/03
Posts: 8242
Loc: England

So this is when to plant, yeah? PLENTY of time for me to get a patch sorted for some winter squash!

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