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Feeling hopeless/depressed - Hypnosis?
      #129132 - 12/09/04 08:54 AM
Brian_NY

Reged: 02/24/04
Posts: 24
Loc: Upstate NY

I woke up this morning feeling so depressed that I decided it was time to take some drastic measures.

A brief history: I have been struggling with chronic, painful constipation for about 7 years now and I am absolutely miserable. I recently had another upper GI (due to bad acid reflux) and my first colonoscopy all in the same day. No problems other than internal hemorrhoids were found.

Anyway, I've been reading/searching through posts on here looking for solutions to my deep depression. I read the recent post by Stephie describing her battle with this and her post almost described me to a T. My relationship with my girlfriend is suffering because she is constantly trying to "cheer me up". I have difficulty seeing good in anything. I like my job but I don't feel like being here (especially when I'm in pain which is most of the time) I'm always tired even though I try not to stay up late, I have difficulty getting up in the morning and normally the 30 minute drive to work is my worst, lowest point of the day. I have very little faith in any of my doctors, I feel like I am talking to myself.

HOWEVER if I have a normal bowel movement (which rarely occurs) my mood lifts immediately, but it doesn't last. I am caught in this cycle where I feel like if I wasn't in pain I wouldn't be depressed, but I've honestly forgotten what it feels like to be happy (and pain free). If I try to discuss this with my girlfriend she is sympathetic but she doesn't relate either because she is naturally an upbeat, happy person. I love her very much but I feel our relationship is going downhill and I feel like a failure. I am only 31 years old but I feel like an old man.

I bought Heather's book a while back and have tried at different times to change my diet, increase my fiber etc etc...but I never stick with it because I get feeling very low and turn to eating foods that give me comfort after I don't see any improvement.

So...I was reading about the Hypnosis program, sounds good in theory but I'm skeptical. I'm thinking maybe if I try this and start feeling at least a little better then it would be easier to work on adjusting my diet and lifestyle.

Anyway, I didn't intend to write this much but it feels good to get it out. I don't think this kind of stuff is that uncommon but I feel absolutely lost.

I could really use some friends right now that can relate. Thanks for your time and take care.

Brian


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Re: Feeling hopeless/depressed - Hypnosis? new
      #129147 - 12/09/04 09:14 AM
Shell Marr

Reged: 08/04/03
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First off...welcome Brian.... you just sound like a doll... {{hugs}}

Quote:

I woke up this morning feeling so depressed that I decided it was time to take some drastic measures.

A brief history: I have been struggling with chronic, painful constipation for about 7 years now and I am absolutely miserable. I recently had another upper GI (due to bad acid reflux) and my first colonoscopy all in the same day. No problems other than internal hemorrhoids were found.

Anyway, I've been reading/searching through posts on here looking for solutions to my deep depression. I read the recent post by Stephie describing her battle with this and her post almost described me to a T. My relationship with my girlfriend is suffering because she is constantly trying to "cheer me up". I have difficulty seeing good in anything. I like my job but I don't feel like being here (especially when I'm in pain which is most of the time) I'm always tired even though I try not to stay up late, I have difficulty getting up in the morning and normally the 30 minute drive to work is my worst, lowest point of the day. I have very little faith in any of my doctors, I feel like I am talking to myself. We have all been there.... Dr are slowly learning more and more about IBS. Have you been diagnosed with IBS?

HOWEVER if I have a normal bowel movement (which rarely occurs) my mood lifts immediately, but it doesn't last. I am caught in this cycle where I feel like if I wasn't in pain I wouldn't be depressed, but I've honestly forgotten what it feels like to be happy (and pain free). If I try to discuss this with my girlfriend she is sympathetic but she doesn't relate either because she is naturally an upbeat, happy person. I love her very much but I feel our relationship is going downhill and I feel like a failure. I am only 31 years old but I feel like an old man. I'm sure she loves you and will do whatever it takes to help you.... have you shared Heather's books with her? Does she do the cooking or do you?

I bought Heather's book a while back and have tried at different times to change my diet, increase my fiber etc etc...but I never stick with it because I get feeling very low and turn to eating foods that give me comfort after I don't see any improvement. I know it can be frustrating... but you need to hang in there.... give it a few months...I know it is a lot to learn and change but really it will just become second nature after a while.... you can still have comfort foods (just make them with IBS safe foods...it CAN be done!)

So...I was reading about the Hypnosis program, sounds good in theory but I'm skeptical. I'm thinking maybe if I try this and start feeling at least a little better then it would be easier to work on adjusting my diet and lifestyle. I personally have not tried the Hypnosis tapes but have heard WONDERFUL things about them, be sure to check out the Hypnotherapy for IBS board Are you getting enough exercise?

Anyway, I didn't intend to write this much but it feels good to get it out. I don't think this kind of stuff is that uncommon but I feel absolutely lost. We are here for you.... make yourself known...jump into other threads....

I could really use some friends right now that can relate. Thanks for your time and take care.

Brian





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Re: Feeling hopeless/depressed - Hypnosis? new
      #129152 - 12/09/04 09:30 AM
Cara4503

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Brian,

BIG HUGS to you right now. I'm so sorry you are going through this! I do know how you feel, and it's a viscious cycle.
One really good thing is that you REALIZE what is going on, that is the first step!
I tried the hypno tapes, and they did work well for relaxation for me...I never completely finished the tapes though. I know that a lot of people on here have had great success with the tapes! Maybe they can help you more with that...

I would definately have to suggest that you look up some therapists in your area! I know a lot of people are very skeptical of therapists, but they really can help you to think different ways, and to get you back on your feet. I saw a therapist for depression and anxiety this year for awhile, and he really did help me. Just being able to talk to someone that really wants to know about YOU, and what you're feeling, makes you feel better.

You sound like a wonderful person, and I truly wish you the best. Everything will be ok, you just need a little help right now. I'm really glad you got Heather's books, and I hope you try and stick to this diet for awhile. It WILL make you feel better.

When you start thinking negative thoughts in your head, scream 'NO' over and over again until they go away. (Not out loud, just in your head). FORCE yourself to think of happy things. Turn on your favorite music in the car...do anything to keep your mind off of negative things.

I hope you have a wonderful day!!

~Cara

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Re: Feeling hopeless/depressed - Hypnosis? new
      #129157 - 12/09/04 09:37 AM
Brian_NY

Reged: 02/24/04
Posts: 24
Loc: Upstate NY

Thank you Shell...I don't think I have been "officially" diagnosed with IBS but I have had just about every test known to man (at least it feels that way). Upper endoscopy, PH probes, bowel emptying study, colonoscopy and the list goes on. Some tests for my reflux...some not. Nothing serious ever found. My doctors tell me I have IBS, thats all I know.

My exercise is limited although I did buy an eliptical machine and have used it with about as much success as changing my diet. I'm a tall person with a medium to thin build so excercise has never been a top priority for me...twisted logic I know. As you can probably tell, my confidence and self-esteem isn't that great right now. I also have a desk job which is another contributing factor.

My girlfriend and I don't live together but she does cook when I visit. I'm not even sure how to approach that subject...cook 2 different meals?

Anyway, it's nice to meet you and I look forward to making new friends on the board.

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Re: Feeling hopeless/depressed - Hypnosis? new
      #129158 - 12/09/04 09:40 AM
michele

Reged: 06/02/03
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I'm so sorry you are struggling so much right now. I too, have IBS with constipation (also know as IBS C) I take miralax everyday which keeps me from getting constaipated much anymore. I still struggle with the bloating and pain. It can really get you down sometimes. The other girls gave some good advice. You realize something has to change and that is the first step. I believe that you may benefit from an anti-depressant. If only short term to get you out of this cycle. Look through the library and you will find lots of articles on why and how the anti-depressants help combat the IBS. Many of us here take them. You may also want to talk to your dr about the anti-spasm drugs, like donnatal, bemtyl and Levsin. If you can't get the C under control, the ask about the Miralax. Your body can become dependant on it so I recommend it as a last resort but I've been on it for years and it really has imrpoved the quality of my life! when I get in a bad cycle with the pain, I find that narcotic drugs are needed to help break the pain cycle.

A few things to make you more comfortable in the meantime are the heating pad on your tummy, some teas and possible some gas-x! Your not alone in this problem. I think its important that you make your girlfriend understand how difficult and pianful it can be sometimes. Show her this site and let her read for herself! I hope you feel better soon!

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Re: Feeling hopeless/depressed - Hypnosis? new
      #129159 - 12/09/04 09:42 AM
Brian_NY

Reged: 02/24/04
Posts: 24
Loc: Upstate NY

Thank you Cara, the initial hurdles when facing IBS seem huge but maybe they aren't that bad. There seem to be many happy, self-confident couragous people here and it gives me hope.

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Re: Feeling hopeless/depressed - Hypnosis? new
      #129161 - 12/09/04 09:45 AM
michele

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I LOVE my ellipitcal trainer!!! I injured my ankle a couple of months back and haven't been able to use it and my tummy has suffered!! Exercise does help! Even if its just 20 minutes a few times a week! It WILL help your tummy! Also, its crucial that you drink a lot of water and stay away from carbonated drinks, like pop! I too, tend to binge on the comfort foods, my weakness is M&M's! We all fall off the wagon now and then, we just ned to help pull eachother back up and get on track again!

You do NOT (nor does your girlfriend) have to cook 2 meals! Check out the recipe boards here! There are tons of great recipes here. You really need to explain to her what your going through. I know it can be hard but if she really likes you, she will understand! IBS is nothing to be embarrassed about. Just because the dr's can't find anything technically wrong with us doesn't make it less of an illness!

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Re: Feeling hopeless/depressed - Hypnosis? new
      #129163 - 12/09/04 09:48 AM
Brian_NY

Reged: 02/24/04
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Loc: Upstate NY

Hi Michelle,

I have tried Bentyl with no improvment, my doctor currently has perscribed Zelnorm which I haven't filled yet, still undecided.

Thank you for your suggestions, I am listening.

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Re: Feeling hopeless/depressed - Hypnosis? new
      #129165 - 12/09/04 09:51 AM
michele

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I know that the Zelnorm hasn't technically been proven in men but I guess it couldn't hurt to try. I have heard of other men taking it. I have taken it as well but it always stops working for me after a couple of weeks. This seems to be the case for most people. I "save it" for when I get a bad attack as it does help with the cramps for a little while. The bentyl didn't help me either. The Donnatal seems to help a bit but its still not a mircle pill or anything!

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Re: Feeling hopeless/depressed - Hypnosis? new
      #129174 - 12/09/04 10:02 AM
Brian_NY

Reged: 02/24/04
Posts: 24
Loc: Upstate NY

Quote:

I know that the Zelnorm hasn't technically been proven in men but I guess it couldn't hurt to try. I have heard of other men taking it. I have taken it as well but it always stops working for me after a couple of weeks. This seems to be the case for most people. I "save it" for when I get a bad attack as it does help with the cramps for a little while. The bentyl didn't help me either. The Donnatal seems to help a bit but its still not a mircle pill or anything!




I agree Michelle, if there was a miracle pill I would be taking it. However, I don't like taking medication (I take enough allready for my reflux) and I feel that these medications really just cover the problem rather than solve the problem. I'm willing to take medication for a while if needed but my constipation is very constant, I don't have IBS "attacks", just constant pain. But as you know, you can get used to anything if you have to.

I've read much of what Heather has written on this site and she makes a lot of sense to me. Time to put my faith in people who have been down this road before me.

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