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Well said Cara! new
      #118787 - 11/03/04 08:38 PM
BarbaraS

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Posts: 1939
Loc: Wisconsin

I'll add to this abortation issue. I am pro-life even with rape and incest. I know a few people who were raped and one is a friend of mine, and they are raising their children. Generations of inbreeding will cause defects - not first generation.

The woman who brought the Roe vs. Wade suite now is Pro-life. I have friends and there are people on this board who are having trouble getting pregnant. My friends would take an unwanted baby from a mother who wants to abort.

They other thing that bothers me about abortation is that teenage girls don't have to have parental consent to have an abortation. Women have died from botched abortations, including teenagers. I work at a hospital and no medical procedures can be performed on a minor without parental consent, but a doctor can perform a medical procedure (an abortation on a minor without a parent's knowledge). THAT is wrong!!!

I also find it intersting Scott Peterson is being tired for a double murder. According to pro-choice a fetus isn't a baby, so why are people being tried for murder of an unborn baby?

Those who are pro-choice may not realize John Kerry is pro-life. He represents a party that believes women should have the right to choose an abortation, therefore he votes in the laws to protect that right. I find it diffcult to respect a man who can not stand up to his own party.

One final note, if I haven't made any enemies, is I am raising three awesome boys. The moment I knew I was pregnant all three boys were babies to me. I never referred to them as a fetus - only as a baby. Matter of fact my third one was a surprise and we were not ready for another baby. I struggled with depression in the beginning of my pregnancy, but the moment I heard my son's heartbeat my feelings changed. I can't imagine my life without him!!

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Re: I served as a poll watcher yesterday, and after what I saw new
      #118789 - 11/03/04 08:41 PM
BarbaraS

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Amie,
Your post is very intersting to me. I never thought of Jews as Democrat, because I think of Jewish people as very traditional in their values.

It was an eye opener for me. Thanks:)

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Re: Election Day has come and gone.... new
      #118792 - 11/03/04 08:56 PM
BarbaraS

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Regardless what everyone's views are the majority of Americans voted for Bush. Americans also voted more Republican for Senate seats. Maybe Americans are ready to see traditional values come back to our country and I'm all for that.

I also get tired of hearing everyone bash Bush. The Congress also makes decisions for our country along with the Supreme Court and many other people we don't hear about. I for one would love to see both parties work with each other for the next four years instead of against each other.

I didn't vote for Kerry, however, I was very impressed with his speech today. I have more respect for him after today and I hope he and Bush along with the rest of Congress can put aside their differences and work as a team.

My 10 year old and I talked alot about this election and the thing that bothered him the most was all the negative campaigns. He couldn't understand why Bush and Kerry spent alot of time bad talking each other. This is a 10 year olds view point and he is the future of our country.

Instead of dividing as a nation we need to come together as a nation. I hate to see another 911 happen before we become unified again.

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Thank goodness "Ohio" wasn't another "Florida" -nt- new
      #118797 - 11/03/04 09:43 PM
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Re: I hate to offend anyone, but I have to stand up for what I believe in. new
      #118802 - 11/03/04 10:08 PM
gigi

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I do not want to offend anyone, after all this is what our Country is about, freedom.

I believe in my heart that President George W. Bush is the man for the job. I voted for him, and so did most of the people I spoke with. WE were scared to see Mr. Kerry have a chance at winning the election. Here are a few of my views, they are just that, my views, you don't have to agree.

1. I am old enough to remember Jane Fonda and how she and her groupies treated Viet Nam soldiers who returned from that dreadful war. Called them Baby Killers, MR. KErry came home from Nam and fell right in with her. He even went so far as to make Anti-American remarks. Sorry, but why would I want to vote for a man who has done this terrible thing to his own kind???? One of my best friends is a double amputee, he suffers every day of his life, just trying to walk. Just to walk. He his buddy stepped on a land mine, he died, my freind lots his legs, one day, he is going to be in a wheel chair, but for now, he is determined he is going to stand to walk. I know many double and triple amputees, just talking to them about Jane Fonda and MR. KErry stirs up a fire deep down inside of them. IF you know one, talk to them. See how they feel.

2. HE believes in Abortion, I don't. Partial birth abortion? NO WAY!! THat act is murder in itself....I just will not go any farther on this one.

3. ABC, NBC, and CBS are all liberal media, if I were a person who may have been confused, these people would have sent me straight to the poles to vote for the PRES. These people speak negatively all of the time, they never tell the good stories that are happening in IRAQ. ANd, like Dan Rather, most of them wouldnt know the truth if it slapped them in the face. Sorry Dan, CBS should have canned you a long time ago. MR. Kerry never saw the writing on the wall, the liberal media helped him loose.

4. ANd, yes, there were WMD's in IRAQ. REmember when Saddam would not let the investigators into the country?? Well, that is when they were dis-assembled, and moved across IRAQ and into other countries. The State Dept. has satelite pics of this happening, I remember when it happened and hav e not forgotten about it. I also remember when that mad man gassed his own innocent countrymen so he could see how that gas killed people, then he just left them laying in the streets.

4. Morals, we need to bring them back into our lives right now! THe bible tells us that it is not natural for a man to sleep with a man, and a woman to sleep with a woman. Marriage was made for a Man and a Woman. THis union cannot stand up in the courts as marriage, marriage was meant to be between a man and a woman, and that is just how I believe. I used to think that Gay people had a right to be what they wanted to be. PEople are not born Gay, God does not make people that way, it is a lifestyle choice that they have chosen. (man, I know I am going to catch a lot of heat for that one, but, I am a Christian and that is how I believe. I have to stand up for God.)

5. As far as the economy goes, it just depends who you are listening to on a day to day basis. ANd, it might have a lot to do with what part of the country people are living in.

6. When MR. KErry spoke about speeding this war up and sending more troups?? Where did he think he was going to get MORE TROUPS??? HE would have had to impose a draft, but, he didnt say that when he was out campaigning on the road now did he? HEck no he didnt, that would have sent his popularity plummeting. WHere did he and everyone else think all of these troups were going to come from? My nephew is in the Air Force, and I know a lot of families who have their beloved family members serving. No way would I ever,ever, speak negatively about the PResident, he and our troups need our support, you can't support one without supporting the other. THats just common sense.

7. For those of you who may be jokingly saying they want to go to Canada, well, I agree with Cara, except down here in Texas we have a saying of our own...Don't let the screen door hit you on the butt on your way out. If you don't like it here, maybe you should pack your bags. Don't think its going to hurt my feelings, and why don't you take your friends from Hollywood too who keep threatening they are going to leave. Looks like Ben Affleck won'tneed much help packing his bags, no one will spend their hard earned money to put it out on someone like him. I sure won't.

Ok now. I'm done, said my peice. IF you dont agree you dont have to agree thats fine. BUt, before you start defending the Gay's, pick up a Bible and start reading it. You may be surprised at what you find.

I don't like this type of discussion on the boards, it is suppossed to be a place for all of us, to come and share. But, when peoples feelings are hurt, or, unkind words are spoken, maybe we should re-think before someone feels they have to leave the boards to find solace elsewhere. THere are too many good freinds here, and we do a good job of trying to take care of each other. Lets keep that going, I need it and so do you!! I will continue to Pray for our Country and our President.

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As the saying goes...Don't mess with Texas! -nt- new
      #118803 - 11/03/04 10:14 PM
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Re: Election Day has come and gone....Barbara... new
      #118806 - 11/03/04 10:20 PM
gigi

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Thank you for being so strong and standing by your beliefs.

I also know people who are struggling to have a child, wouldnt they all love to have a baby, before it had a chance to be aborted?!

Your son is right about the mud slinging and negativity. I pray for the children of this beautiful country.

I like you Barbara! Keep on being a good mom!!

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Big kiss on the lips for Rose. Big punch in the mouth for Bob from Rose's husband!!! -nt- new
      #118807 - 11/03/04 10:24 PM
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OMG!!! boyfriend. Smack on the face from Rose!!! new
      #118808 - 11/03/04 10:26 PM
UrbanRain

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Women are the superior sex!!!


Bob. An "enlightened" male!

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Re: I hate to offend anyone, but I have to stand up for what I believe in. new
      #118820 - 11/04/04 02:38 AM
heather7476

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You did not offend me!! I also share most of your views, but I also don't think as an american I should be able to make other people live by my view point!!

There is a Seperation between Church & State!! So I don't think that what the bible says should ever come into play when making laws!!! I am not sure how to word this but i am going to try! If God is against the Gay lifestyle and the other things mentioned then let GOD be the one to Judge and punish!! There is enough hate in this world, and i belive that no matter what while you live in AMERICA (as a citizen) you should have the rights and freedoms granted to all other citizens!!

Who am I to judge any body!! I am not perfect by any means!! I also think that two people who have been together for years should be allowed to be treated with respect and rights no matter what their sex!!!

OK I am done!! I had hoped this topic would not come up on the boards!! I love you all and don't want to lose any of you over this!!! I just feel very strongley about this!!! I know you do to!! I respect your views and that is what is great about USA we can dissagree and still be friends!!!!

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