Could impacted gas make my chest hurt? Please read......
#102782 - 08/31/04 06:43 AM
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gigi
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For over a week I have had chest pain on the left side, it really hurts when I am sitting in my pc chair or at the sewing machine, and sometimes when I am driving.
I live 3 miles north of a Chemical Refinery, last week they had some type of release (of course, they do not warn the public, period). I thought that I may be having side effects from that since some of the grass in front of my house is dead, and I have also lost some shrubbery (turned black and crinkled up). Yesterday I called them and acted like a total b***h, and when they call me today, I will probably continue to behave like one. But, if this pain is coming from impacted gas,   how embarrassing. Though I will never tell  . I tried some of the yoga poses last night, I started back on the SFS, taking acidophillus, I don't know what else to do. I also have an appointment with my Allergy and Asthma specialist so he can take a look at my lungs and maybe run some blood tests.
What do you think?
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Thats kinda scarey about the chemical release!  
I get chest pains when I get a bad attack. Its usually like a pressure thing. Its like an elephant is sitting right on my chest and I can't take a deep breath. Its usually pretty constant for days. What does your pain feel like?
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There's so many residual effects from ibs that it's hard to say for sure if this is from gas or not.
I'd certainly be concerned since the chemical release has killed things in your hard. How scary!! Do you know what was released? (just curious).
Let us know what your specialist has to say. I'll be waiting to hear what you find out.
You're in my thoughts and prayers,
Terri
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Hey Gayla,
Sorry you are feeling bad. I do get pains like that sometimes from trapped gas. Have you tried OTC Phazyme? It does help me. Could it be acid indigestion or heartburn? Maybe try Pepcid or something like that.
I'm glad you are going to an Allergy & Asthma specialist just to make sure the chemical release isn't causing it.
BTW, did you ever get the undies at Walmart?
Good luck
Barbie
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I had a long day with the Environmental Team from Connoco-Phillips-Chevron. They are denying there was any release, period. But, I have talked to more people today who are sick, and who have burnt spots in their yards and property. IT is coming from that refinery, and they don't want to admit it. They are suppossed to come in the morning and take soil, and grass samples, just a formality with them. They think I will shut up and be appeased that they acted like they actually care and want to do something. But, they don't know me, and I am not going to shut up. I told them that grass (and listen, it was so thick and lush and green  ) and shrubbery can be replaced, but my health and my grandchildrens health cannot! They know I am fighting mad and I am not gonna take it any more !!!!!!!
To answer you question Michele, I have an area about the size of a grapefruit directly over my heart and it just hurts, it feels like something is squeezing my chest. IT hurts when I do things like fold clothes, cook, I tried to sew a little bit today and it hurt so bad I had to quit. I am very upset about this, we also have sever large areas of dead grass in one of our pastures. WE HAVE CATTLE THAT GRAZE OUT THERE, now, what are we suppossed to do with them? Actually, I am beginning to get frightened by it all, very frightened.
I hope tomorrow (wed) is a much better day. Hope you are taking good care of yourself Michele, I know you are honey. And I know you want to have a baby, just don't give up, I am still praying for you.
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Re: Terri !
#102986 - 08/31/04 10:20 PM
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gigi
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I don't know anything about what type of gas or chemical yet. My husband works in the industry, just not at that facility, so we know what we are up against and what nonsense they are dishing out to us.
I just want to feel better and get on with my life, read my post to Michele it has an update in it.
Love ya, you are so sweet and concerned, I will let ya'll know what my fav Doc says tomorrow night. Thanks for the prayers, I do need them badly, I am very frightened by all of this. gayla
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Re: Barbie, NO
#102987 - 08/31/04 10:25 PM
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gigi
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I have not found those unders at WM, my dil found some along the same line at Target. So, I need to go there .
Tomorrow I am getting some Phazyme. This pain does not feel like indegestion or heartburn, I dont know what it is, but it does hurt. It would be just like my luck for him to tell me I have been trying to have a heart attack, God Forbid on that one! I just dont have any of the symptoms.
MIss talking to you Barbie, hope your lame foot is feeling better.
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WOW!
#102992 - 09/01/04 12:29 AM
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Bevvy
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I don't usually read posts addressed to others -- in fact, I don't remember the last one I read -- but yours just caught my eye.
All I can say is, YOU GO GIRL! WOW!
And -- they're not going to spray again, are they? What are the chances of moving from there? That's scary stuff.
Wow, I'm gonna follow this thread. I hope you nail those suckers. You GO, Girl!
Bev
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YIKES!! That is so scarey! Is there someone outside of the plant you can call to do an analysis? I'm not sure I would trust the plant itself to give you straight answers! Maybe someone at the City Hall could put you in touch with the right people.
The pain you describes sounds different that what I get. Have you ever had any gallbladder problems? When I used to get gallbladder attacks, I thought I was having a heart attack! I had mine removed a few years so don't get that anymore!
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I had my gallbladder removed several years ago, thank goodness for that.
I saw my Allergy & Asthma doc today, he was extremely thorough, I had two different breathing tests, past both of them with flying colors. It seems that right now there is no lung damage. I do however have, (and I cannot remember the name of this stuff, it is very long) an inflamation in the cartilege thats works itself in and around the ribs. He gave me a strong anti-inflamatory, along with 3 days of Predisone treatment. HE said after that I should be fine.
When I asked what could cause this, he said STRESS !! 
I have contacted the EPA, they are working with me, today they called and left a message, they found the person who deals with this refinery on a regular basis.
I have lost an area of grass that is about 16x18'. It lays directly in front of the landscaping job across the front of my house, that I had done back in the spring. I also had two beautiful flowering shrubs that turned black and crispy. Now, I have been a gardener for many years, I have lost many plants, they turn brown and die. NEver ever have I had one turn black and crispy. IT is a chemical, my h agrees with me, though, he does not have the time to let himself get as upset as I am about it. The thing is, I work out in that bed daily, my hands are in that dirt. IF it were you, would you want to put your hands in dirt that could be contaminated? What about sitting in that patch of dead grass while I am pulling weeds, etc.? Would you demand that the grass be re-sodded? The dirt/mulch be totally removed? The plants, 3 of them cost me $100. each, this is the first time in our married lives that I have spent that kind of money on something like that, but my kids are grown and gone, and this is something that I dearly love to do, so I bought them. Would you demand that every plant be taken up and replaced????
Tell me, what would you do??
My first thought was to demand they come out and remove it all, and have it totally replaced. And, I might just do it!!! IT is going to hurt me to see those pretty plants pulled up and burned, but what if they turn black tomorrow??
In all, I have approximately, 53 plants in that bed.
I need your input here friends!!
Thank you so much for caring enough to read this.
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Hi Gayla,
First of all, I am glad that you don't have anything serious. I was worried about you. Is it Costochronditis? My DIL has that and she said it can be quite painful and also brought on by stress, or long periods of driving or anything that could have pulled those muscles. You should be better in no time...but take it easy for awhile.
About the yard. I think you probably should ask for replacement of anything that has been damaged by these chemicals. It can't hurt to ask....that's what hubby always tells me.
Maybe you will get it and your yard will look beautiful again. I know how you feel because I love to keep my yard beautiful, too.
If you don't get replacement, I would suggest wearing garden gloves when working in the dirt and sitting on an old piece of rug while digging around. That way you will have minimal contact with any chemicals.
Sending you bunches of hugs to help you get through this.
Barbie
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Boy, I would be very hesitant to go digging in the beds until you have the soil tested. What if there is some chemical in there that becomes airborn when you start digging around and gets into your lungs?? I am also a gardner and have killed my share of plants  but have never had anything turn black and crispy?!! I think they should replaced whatever is dead and/or dying and test your soil for free to prove there is no residual chemicals! Are your neighbors having any problems?
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Thanks Barbie, it is Costochondritis, I was going to call the DR. tomorrow and confirm. This is something easy to control, and I am starting to feel better already, YaY!!! I am taking Prednisone and an anti-inflamatory for 3 days, it is some kickin stuff!
I love the carpet idea, I use rubber/cloth type of gloves, they are great at protecting nails and skin. The carpet will be so handy and also keep the fire ants off of me, (hopefully). Thanks for that great idea.
I do intend on getting all of it replaced, I do not want to be working in that ground with those chemicals, with no way of knowing yet which one or ones, I am dealing with. I have two beautiful white Crepe' Myrtle trees, a gorgeous palm, and many others that I cannot remember the names of right now. I am not a wasteful person at all, and it is going to be very very hard for me to see those be torn out because of the fear of chemical reactions. Though these particular plants are not showing damage. The grass is definitely dead, I can reach down and pull out a handful with no problem, roots and all. We have worked so hard growing this grass (2 acre yard) and keeping it beautiful in the threat of drought every year during August and September. Anyway, I am so afraid of touching any of it. I have been nauseous for about 5-6 days....will this cr@p every end? I hope so, but I am afraid this is going to take a while. Thats one thing I do seem to have plenty of these days.
Thanks for the hugs Barbie ! 
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That is another thing to think of. I have been very careful not to get involved with this soil or grass. I am afraid it is all going to have to be replaced, I just cannot go out there and work in this stuff with a clear mind. It is just not worth it. In this area, there is a 70-80% chance of dying from cancer, I just found that out today. I knew for many years there has been a lot of cancer here, but OMGosh, I had no idea it was that high. Frightening, very frightening. That just helped me confirm that all of the soil, mulch, and plants have to go, it is breaking my heart. We just love the way our house and yard look with this landscaping job. We have always built our own bedding, done the planting and growing, I saved money all winter so that in the spring we could have this done, it is a very large area and it was not cheap. My h works so hard, and I was recouperating from major surgery, so we paid to have it done, and couldn't have been more pleased.
My son and dil, and 3 little grandsons live across from us on a county road the boys are sick quite often (I hate that), my other son and his wife live about a mile down the road. The same days we were all feeling chest pain, mine is the only one that stayed, there are also some people closer to the refinery who were ill and having chest pains last week. On the road that takes us back to town, there are huge patches of dead spots, those spots definitely had to come from that refinery, no one could convince me otherwise.
They are notorious for covering up their mistakes, they do not want to be fined by the EPA. And those people will eat their lunch, big time. So, I do not take one word they say to me seriously. NONE OF IT. So, hopefully in the coming weeks we will be learning more. This is sad, so sad. But, it could be worse, much worse. AT least there was not an explosion and no one lost thier lives.
Thanks Michele for the thoughts, I am still praying for you honey. ITs gonna happen. {{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}
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