Stress is going to kill me *DELETED*
#87956 - 07/08/04 04:00 PM
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Jeano
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Edited by sjo (07/08/04 04:02 PM)
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Oh, Shelby, you poor sweetie. First here's a
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{BIG HUG}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Second, my heartfelt congratulations on being a breast cancer survivor for 12 years! That's GREAT!!
As far as soy, yes, I've read that it has estrogenic effects but who knows if it's really a risk factor. But there's always rice milk and rice dream ice cream that you could have instead of soy.
Good luck and please don't stress out too much. You don't want to trigger your IBS now, do ya?
SMOOCHES!
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Laura
Keep it simple!
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Bless You, Shelby
#87980 - 07/08/04 04:48 PM
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Bevvy
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Wow, what you've gone through!
I don't handle stress well, so I'm certainly no one to give advice. I think it's good that you research this as much as you can, and I imagine the Mayo Clinic is a good place to start. What about the internet? Can you do a google search for the American Cancer Society, perhaps?
I would be lost without soy, but then I can remember saying the same thing about dairy. I love Soy Dream Mocha Fudge, but hubby accidentally brought home something else -- Rice Dream Chocolate "ice cream" -- and it was surprisingly delicious. Okay, so it wasn't Hot Fudge Cake from Hot Shoppes, but it was still good...
Shelby, if it turns out that you can't have soy, you'll discover something else -- like rice -- instead. We're gonna help you discover it. Remember, you said, "There were times that I didn't think I would make it." You did make it, didn't you? Look at how well you're doing now.
We're also going to help you with the stress. I subscribe to an online self-help group, and one of their newsletters ("How Stress Limits You") was very helpful to me:
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"Stress is the by-product of thoughts. These thoughts that cause stress fit into 2 categories: (1) they are thoughts related to an event that has already taken place (the past), and (2) they are thoughts that relate to a situation or event that may or may not take place (the future).
"If your mind is not in the present moment, if your thoughts are not in the prevent moment, then you are sure to experience stress and anxiety.
"Your mind is not where it should be -- in the present moment -- and your subconscious is only getting more confused because it is trying to create opportunities for you in the present moment -- but you're not there -- so you can't see them. Then you get angry or frustrated because things don't improve. But you're not there anyway, so even if they did improve, you wouldn't know.
"Shift your thoughts to focus on what you want, what is happening now and focus on all the positive aspects that are taking place in your life right now. If you're not doing this, then you're not living; you're simply wasting time stressing out and filling your life with anxiety.
"Lets face it -- if you live in the past or the future, if you constantly think about the past or the future, then you are going to be continuously stressed out. The key is to start focusing on the present moment -- which we are constantly experiencing and which is always changing.
"The events that cause stress all have one thing in common: you have to think about those events. If you don't think about them, you eliminate stress. It is the single act of thinking about them and not the present that causes stress. At this point, right now, only the present moment exists. The past, which consists of events that have already occurred, no longer exists; it's over. The future, which consists of events that have yet to take place and is undetermined, does not exist; it hasn't happened and may not happen -- so why worry about it?
"The key to eliminating your stress and anxiety is to re-direct your thoughts. Once you focus on the present moment, your mind can no longer think about the past or worry about the future. When this happens, you are no longer a slave to the mind, you are no longer a slave to the past, and you are no longer a slave to the uncertainty of the future. Instead, you become the master of the present moment, and if you can master each day, you'll never have stress, fear or anxiety."
Keep us posted.
Bev
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Hi Shelby:
I just want to say that my heart goes out to you. I don't have an answer for you, but here's wishing you the best luck you can possibly have. Give yourself a hug for me.
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~ Rachel (IBS-C)
If life hands you lemons, make lemonade!!
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Oh, Shelby
#88005 - 07/08/04 05:31 PM
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barbie
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I am so sorry that you had to go through that. I'm sure it was a very difficult time for you. Thank goodness you came out of it OK.
About the soy. I have heard that it does have some estrogen like effects but I don't know for sure. I would suggest asking your doc or you could do a search on the internet and see if you can get any info. If you can't have soy there are other things that you could substitute that I bet would be just as yummy.
Hang in there, you are doing a great job of taking care of yourself and we are always here if we can help.
Barbie
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I'm so sorry you went through that, Shelby. It sounds like a frightening, painful experience--but one that you came out of with strength. Hurray for you! And it sounds like you're doing good things to keep healthy--like being on this diet.
I don't know anything about the soy connection, but other people's suggestions sounded good, checking things out online, with your doctor.
And stress relief--always important. Do you have any lavender plants near your home, or lavender oil? It might sound silly, but just breathing in the scent can bring great calm. Cammomile tea is great, too--and so are live hugs!  I hope you find calm, and find out good things.
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You sweet sweet lady, from the bottom of my heart I want you to know how proud I am of you for sticking it out. We never know how much the person sitting beside us has suffered and persevered. And, or, may be trying to deal with a catastrophic heartache. You have been so sweet and supportive of me, your kind and loving words have helped me through some difficult moments. I want you to know, I just wrote your name in my BOOK OF NAMES,a place I keep everyone listed who needs prayer,and you will be prayed for everytime I pray over this book !!!! You are right, God has kept you for something big, I think you are doing some of it right now. Everytime I see your posts, I read every one of them, they may not be directed to me, but the prescence of your heart embedded in the helpful and loving words you write to all of us, reach me. I thank you for that. You sweetie you !!
I think Rice Milk is a dirivitive of Rice, just like Soy Milk is a dirivitive of Soy. I wouldn't think they are connected.
I am so afraid of Breast Cancer, every Mammo I have had, always show something....I have such anxiety every time I go. I am calling today to make an appt, it has been 2 years since my last. I have had one biopsy,Thank God it came back negative. I have so much respect and praise for everywoman who has battled this disease!
I am here for you Shelby, we all are. We will do everything in our power to help you and support you.
love to you!!! gayla
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Shelby
#88139 - 07/09/04 05:48 AM
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BL
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I'm so sorry you've had to go through breast cancer, and that now this woman's news has upset you. After all you've been through in the past, you do not need this to worry about! Hopefully, you can talk to your doctor soon and he can clarify this for and put your fears at ease. Can you call him---or his nurse and see what they say? If you're like me, having some straight answers will be better than worrying about the "what if's."
You will be in my thoughts and prayers.
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Shelby--
Yeah, there are a whole lot of alternatives to using soy, although it hardly sounds like you're eating a huge amount. There's rice milk and oat milk and a whole lot of other things that can be ground up and turned into a "milk" (almond milk, anyone?).
From what I can recall, not all breast cancers are estrogen sensitive, so avoiding soy might not even be an issue for you. I'm sure your oncologist can help you figure this out. Heck, I just read the other day that soy products aren't estrogenic enough to prevent menopausal symptoms!
Take care of yourself, and don't let your mind make your body feel bad!
--AC
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