I was stupid.....
#81744 - 06/21/04 09:12 PM
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Gail1
Reged: 09/04/03
Posts: 62
Loc: Calgary, AB, Canada
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I made a safe dinner of BBQ chicken and buns and veggie. I also made my fav...coleslaw with diced apple in it. I had just a little of it after I ate my dinner. I was hoping that it would not bother me BUT... it did. My tummy looks like I am about 9 months pregnant with triplets....and it hurts. I know that I have only myself to blame for it, so I shouldn't whine. I have tried to be good for the last several weeks or so....since my back has bothered me from Oct/03 it has also made my tummy hurt whether I eat safe or not. So I basically ate what I wanted to with in reason. Dairy usually kills me so I don't touch it. I would have the odd very small piece of steak or a couple cookies and I would just bloat. Now that I have been eating safe my D has come back with a vengence. I didnt get D when I would cheat before. I cant take imodium because it makes me constipated and then I feel worse. I would rather have the D. I will stop whining now. Thanks for letting ramble on. Gail
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Yeah, I know about that Big D and cramps. Oh yeah.
Cabbage is a killer. It ranks right up there with broccoli. I love them both, but I've had to give them up totally. Too bad, because I make a magnificent Chinese cabbage salad.
Your dinner sounds excellent. Did you have any SFS beforehand? It's a good time to take the Acacia -- before dinner -- because it really helps with the "cushioning" in the tummy. Equalactin works well too.
You don't like Immodium? Have you asked your doc for a prescription for something like Lomotil? For those cramps, you might consider Heather's peppermint caps -- or ask your doc for a prescription for NuLev, Hyoscyamine, or the Big Gun (Donnatal).
Get better.
Bev
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Hi Bev, I don't get a lot of cramping usually. so the D in that respect is not to bad. I have to admit that I have not be taking my Citricel. When I first started taking a SFS I was using Metimucil. That was just horrible so I changed to Citricel. We cant get it up here so I ordered it online. I started out taking it in a very low dose and it bound me up big time. I persisted with it over a couple months and I was still bound up but not as bad. I stopped taking it when my back pain really got bad because having C and the back pain was unbearable. I should start taking it again, but I am rather nervous about it. From Oct 03 till about 4 weeks ago my bms were fine. I didn't have C or D and everything seemed ok. As soon as I started to eat proper the D came back. Why would that be? My IBS is not as bad as most of everyone on here, I am very fortunate for that. Before I was diagnosed my major complaint was the bloating. I knew that if I had milk or egg salad or icecream that I would get D about 50% of the time. I still can have a burger at wendy's without it giving me anything but the bloating. Bloating is what I have more than anything else. The D has been happening more since I started the diet back in Auguast. Cole slaw never used to bother me other then bloating from it. I have become to hate chicken and I have never cared for fish other then canned tunna. Fish makes me gag. I love seafood but it is so expensive here, that I don't buy it much. I am going to go and buy some equalactin tommorow and see if that helps. I also take dicetel and some days it helps and other days it doesn't. I read the post lots but don't write many myself because my IBS is not as bad as others on here. My heart goes out to them and I wish that their IBS was more like mine. The only time that my IBS is like most is when I got to my MIL's for dinner. Her cooking makes me extremelly sick and I am sick for several days afterwards. Hence I don't go there for dinner very often. Do you or anyone else know as to why my IBS is acting up more with the diet? Thanks for you time. Gail
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Gail, I'm a little confused.
You say your major complaint is the bloat. And now you're D. I'm with you so far. I'd blame the dead animal carcass from Wendy's. Red meat is a BIG trigger! BIG. I'd be bloated too -- and more.
Your IBS acts up big time when you go to the MIL for dinner. Okay, what does she fix, and HOW does she fix it? Lots of hidden fat, I suspect. Then that would tell you that fat is your biggest enemy. If she doesn't cook with a lot of fat, then what is she doing differently? This could be very helpful for you to discover.
Too bad you don't like fish. Grilled salmon is incredible. But, okay, you don't like it. Canned tuna is great too; since you like it, why not eat more of it? Have you tried the tuna-in-a-bag? It's SOOOO good, much better than canned (although far more expensive). And you've "come to hate chicken"? Oh dear. Too bad! Chicken is so versatile, you can do anything with it! Do you also hate turkey? What about deli turkey breast from the deli department? Makes incredible sandwiches.
Dicetel? I don't know anything about that. Could that be the culprit? Have you ever tried not taking it and seeing how you do without it? Is that a prescription? I looked it up in my drug dictionary, but it wasn't there.
As for the Citrucel, if you're still having bloating and D but aren't taking the Citrucel, then you know it's not to blame. However, my D got out of control, as well as bloating and gas, when I accidentally increased my SFS to its maximum dosage, then it went away completely when I stopped taking it.
I just wonder if your body is having a hard time adjusting to change. I think our bodies are overly sensitive -- thus the IBS -- and any kind of change at all sends messages to the subconscious, "uh-oh, watch out! She's doing strange things to us again!" and since the subconscious tries to keep us safe, it goes into defense mode; perhaps in your case, that means D because your subconscious is trying to get rid of what you're feeding it.
I don't know; that's just a guess. But I'd give the diet a chance.
AND -- I'd really pursue an investigation into your MIL's cooking. I think it holds some answers for you.
Bev
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Bev, sorry if my post confused you. I am not the greatest at putting to paper what I want to say. It some times get all garbled. My MIL has been cooking low fat and healthy foods for a while, or so she claims. She knows that I can't tolerate dairy and she is supposidly lactose intolerant. So I thought that the cooked veggies would be safe. Low and behold she coveres them with butter and I didn't realize that. I told her that I can only have chicken or turkey breast she said "no problem, I am making a turkey" It turned out that the turkey was a butterball. She didn't inform me of that either. I don't have her gravey cause my hubby told me that it is full of grease. Other times that we have gone there, she has told me that she will make food that I can eat and then there was steak or beef roast and potatoe salad and basically everything has been what I cant eat. She would be very offended it I brought stuff that I could have and not eat what she has made. On the one time that I decided to eat at home before we went to dinner there, that way I would not have to eat her food and be sick. She was really mad at me for doing that. I guess it is a no win situation with her. We don't get along as it is. As for low fat foods, I generally eat very low fat because I don't have a gallbladder and was told not to eat high fat or deepfried foods by the dr. That was 22 years ago. I think what I will do is go on the food that you eat when there is nothing for you to eat diet and see if I can get better that way.
Thank you so much for your time and caring. Everybody on here is so caring and thoughtful. The amount of time that everybody put into responding to others questions is incredible. God bless you all. It would be so great if the rest of the world had as many caring and loving people in it. It would be such a better place.  Gail
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Bevrs makes it really tempting to go out and grab a burger, doesn't she!? lol 
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Hi,
My only suggestion about MIL is to make your own dish and take it to her house saying "I just thought I would bring something to share". I know you said that she would be offended if you did that but I think that is the only answer. Could your husband have a talk with her and explain that you are on a very restricted diet under doctor's orders and it is just easier if you bring something that is allowed on your restricted diet. I don't know why she wouldn't understand that. Or, maybe you could go out to eat and then you could eat something safe.
Good luck
Barbie
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I'm always so willing to help whenever I can.
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I ain't givin' up yet.
The MIL sounds like she wants to try to fix something you like, but maybe she just needs a little help or guidance. What if you picked out some of your favorite IBS-safe dishes (you could use the recipe board in here or Heather's incredible book, "Eating for IBS"). Copy those that you like and take them to the MIL and say, "MIL, dear, sweet wonderful MIL, I really love these dishes, but I'm not very good at making them myself. Would you fix these for me sometime when I come over for dinner, PLEASE, because you're such a good cook, maybe I can learn from you?"
Do you buy all that? Maybe she will.....
Bev
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Re: for Bevrs
#82135 - 06/22/04 11:02 PM
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Gail1
Reged: 09/04/03
Posts: 62
Loc: Calgary, AB, Canada
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Thanks Bev for this suggestion, only it would not work for me to go and say that I am not good at making this because I am a professional cook by trade and she thinks that my cooking is gourmet quality. She told me that when they came for Christmas dinner 2 years ago. Plus if I were to call her "sweet and wonderful" she would be shocked. As I said we REALLY don't get along and I think that we will never get along. I just tolerate her because she is my MIL. Heck her kids don't even like her. But that is another story.
I have been feeling ok today. The D has stopped and I have been eating soygurt and heather's banana bread today and my tummy feels pretty good. I am going to give fish another try. Thanks for everything, you have been wonderful. Gail
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