The Works :( - Need help
#69693 - 05/12/04 02:55 AM
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JBI
Reged: 01/25/04
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Loc: BC, Canada
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It's 4:45 am and I was just woken up with horrible cramps and then a really bad case of D. Urgent, painful, watery with some mucus you name it, then another bout 10 minutes later. My stomach is still really sore. By far the worst case of D I've had in a long time.
I'm feeling really discouraged right now cause I was doing so much better. The last time I felt remotely this bad it was because I cheated and had some Lindor chocolate, but that was a pretty instant reaction and was fine after I got it out of my system. I can't figure out what would have triggered this.
Yesterday for breakfast I had some of my prodiem fiber with a small bowl of puffed rice ceral and soy milk. then for a snack I had 6 plain with a bit of salt rice cakes, apple sauce and apple juice. For a late lunch I had a sweet onion chicken terriaki sub from Subway with some fiber and apple juice. dinner time snack I had a fruit bar and a can of V8 and then when I got home at 10pm I had a bowl of 'Thai kitchen' garlic and vegetable rice noodle soup. Then right before I went to bed cause I have a cold I took some tylenol cold and flu.
I have eaten everything before. Before I was going gluten free, but over the past few weeks would have subway subs for dinner after a long day at work. They hadn't bothered me before. as far as I know, there's no dairy or red meat in anything I ate.
ARRRRGGGGHHH, This is so G d*mned frustrating!!!! and discouraging at the same time. I think I need a hug.
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So sorry you had such a horrible attack. I know only too well how awful they truly are. The only things that I can think of that would cause problems are the apple juice, the V8 and the tylenol cold. The apple juice and V8 are highly acidic and will give me D every time. I avoid them like the plague. Try cranberry juice instead (make sure it's not a cocktail - it usually has apple juice). The tylenol cold I'm guessing can cause upsets because they've bothered me before too. I have no idea why, but some medications will cause upsets. So, dust yourself off and take a deep breath. Be kind to your tummy today. Stick to soluble fiber (I love the "what to eat when you can't eat anything" section of Heather's Eating Guidelines) and drink plenty of peppermint tea. Hope you feel better soon.
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I'm sorry you had such a terrible day JB, I also know that feeling too well. I cant do Subway sandwiches, I love them, but they make me pay. Stay on you soluble fiber honey, and drink your tea! Get better soon.
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I am so sorry to hear of your attack! The ones that wake you up are the WORST!! Apple juice always does a number on me as well. But, the terryiaki sandwich at Subway made me sick too! I can eat subway as long as it is just chicken breast with low fat mayo or turkey breast. But...you said you have eaten all this stuff before with no problem. Maybe it was the medicine. I really don't know, just wanted to tell you I hope you feel better. I am sending hugs your way! Take it easy today!
Amanda
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Hi,
Sorry you are having a bad day. Do you think anything you ate or the cold med could have sorbitol in it? That's a big trigger and sometimes we don't realize it is in stuff. Did you possibly have wheat bread with your subway? Apple juice would give my stomach fits but if you had that before and it didn't bother you that's probable not it. Don't know what else. Maybe try to stay on bread & potatoes today and drink water.
Feel better soon Barbie
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Jamie, I'm sorry you're feeling so crappy! I know how discouraging it is to be doing well and then have this hit you without knowing why. I also question the sub. I don't eat subs too often because sometimes I'm fine with them and other times they bother me. I don't know if it's the amount of mayo (which I try to scrape off!) or if there's dairy in the bun. Also, did you have lots of lettuce and tomatoes on your sub? Do they ever bother you? Just some thoughts. I hope you feel better soon!
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hey, Jamie.
sorry you're feeling so...er...crappy.
i don't really know what to say, because i know you said you've had all that stuff before. i know i couldn't do all that fruit and i've not had Tylenol cold & flu in a long time. maybe it was just all that stuff together that built up to an attack?
feel better ASAP, Jamie. hope you don't have to fly today.
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Oh Jamie I'm so sorry your not feeling well My 1st thought would be the apple juice and maybe the lettuce in the sub. And then the cold med.... here are the ingrediants in Tylenol
Hope you feel better soon....
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*BIG HUGS*
#69788 - 05/12/04 09:30 AM
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Kimm
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Hope you feel better soon Jamie!!
I know how discouraging it can be when you get an attack like this. Just know that it will pass and you'll feel better again soon!! I swear!!
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{{{{{BIG HUG}}}}}
#69791 - 05/12/04 09:52 AM
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Bevvy
Reged: 11/04/03
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You got it, FlyBoy! {{{{{{BIG HUG}}}}}}
I don't know what's in the Subway samiches, but are you sure the turkey was white meat, not dark? And what about 'Thai kitchen' garlic and vegetable rice noodle soup? Never heard of it, have no idea about the fat content. I know that Campbell's chicken noodle soup contains chicken fat (EW), a big trigger for me!
I realize you've had these before, but could it be that you were just lucky before? It's like my Oriental cabbage salad. I had it once, no problem. Had it again, no problem. (I was lucky.) Then I had it a third time -- BIG mistake! I pushed my luck. BIG D, oh yeah (you answered my post in The Living Room). I just think our bodies will take a little pushing, but not much, and maybe, just maybe, you pushed yours a little too far, Jamie.
I so relate to your frustration and anger. After I got over the panic attack, I got frustrated and angry too. It's so not fair that we have to suffer with this, especially when the only help we get for it is from each other. On the other hand, consider just that -- we DO get help from each other. That's a Godsend. And the frustration is justified; after all, we're eating such healthy food -- but isn't that really what we would want to do anyway, even if we didn't have IBS? (Okay, except for the occasional Jack....)
Try not to focus on this recent attack, and instead focus on how long you've gone without one. You ARE getting better. So you had one step back, it's no biggie, because you're making many steps forward. That's really what's most important, isn't it?
I also think there's a lot going on with you right now. You're questioning your career, your life goals, what you want to do with yourself -- these are all biggies, and I'm just wondering if your gut is taking it too much to heart, perhaps more so than you realize.
You're doing Michael's program, aren't you? Be patient, because I believe he'll help you.
Feel better soon, FlyBoy. By the way, Jamie, you're a very huggable guy, you cutie-pie you!
Bev
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If I had to bet, I'd say you over did the apple juice! Do you usually drink that much in a day?? I'm ok with one glass but anymore than that, oh boy!
Try some peppermint caps if you have some, they usually help my tummy calm down after an episode like this! Hope your feeling better!
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Oh, Jamie, my handsome laddie, here's a
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{BIG OLE COSMIC HUG}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
I'm so sorry to hear you had such a bad frustrating attack out of the blue like that. As you mull it over the next few days, I betcha figure out what did it. I can tell you're smart, cause you're a pilot! he, he.
Feel better soon, sugar bear!
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Hi everybody,
Thanks for all the support. It was as good as a real hug. You folks on this board are awesome.
So I'm not sure what could have caused it. I guess I have it narrowed down to the sub, the AJ or the medication. The sub had veggies on it, however I had some fiber before I ate it. I've had that exact type of sub a few times before, but nothing too bad, maybe a bit of gas here and there. The chicken was all white meat and I had checked the subway website and it says there's no dairy in the bread and I had no mayo. My only guess is that maybe the meat was bad ie had been left out unrefrigerated for a while. The service and food handling procedures in this town are pathetic.
I'm surprised that Apple juice gives so many of you problems. Since giving up pop and milk, apple juice and soy milk are like the only flavoured drinks I'll drink. I guess that's one trigger that I missed. I have been drinking quite a lot of it without much problems. I guess I'll have to try cutting down.
The medicine. I'm still the most suspicious of it. problem is that I have no clue what any of the ingredients in it are. I guess I'll just have to stay away from it for now.
I managed to get through the day. It was one of the ones where you wish you could just stay in bed the whole day. I couldn't really get back to sleep after being sick as my cat was wide awake and making a racket.... normally she's adorable but I was not impressed with her. I did have to fly today, but luckily I was just training another pilot so there wasn't set time that we had to be airborne and he was pretty understanding of me feeling crappy. After some immodium and pepto and a few hours of taking it easy I was good to go. Unfortunately the poor fellow that I was training got airsick
One more day and then I get 8 days off! (I've been on for 18 days straight) I don't care that I have to get my wisdom teeth out, I'm just really happy that I get to go somewhere that's way warmer and see lots of friends I haven't seen in a few months.
Again, thanks for everybody's support
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good to hear your feeling better hun.....
AAwhhhh........8 days off!! You will only need 1-2 days for your teeth (I've been there).... then you can just chill and see your old friends.
You will be missed.... will you have the laptop with ya ?
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how ya feeling now? better, i hope?
that stinks. sorry you got thrown for a loop. it must be in the air. i had an attack the other day driving home feom Philadelphia. horrible. but not as bad as yours sounds....
and i know my trigger. i know how frustrating it is to not be able to figure out where you went wrong....
now you've got me scared! i was going to try to phase back in the gluten. i'm gun-shy, now that i hear your story from last night.
anyway, there's not much i can say except i'm sorry you got sick and that you're frustrated. hope you're all healed soon.
(((hugs, again)))
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hey Jen,
I'm feeling so so this evening. somethings still not quite sitting right and all I've eaten today is water, rice, soluble fiber, rice cakes and soy milk.
overall though gluten wasn't bothering me much. I did notice a tiny bit more gas... but to be able to have real bread agin... totally worth it. I haven't given up on it yet, but we'll see how things go.
Now quick! right something back so it can be your 2000th post
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wha!?
#69984 - 05/12/04 07:31 PM
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jenX
Reged: 08/11/03
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Loc: Richmond, VA
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really!? i haven't been watching. i'm afraid i used that post up already....
drat.
boy am i verbose! that's a lot of posts! i really should shut it from time to time....
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