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Maybe i havent got ibs at all??
      #68124 - 05/06/04 07:53 AM
Gurgle

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Loc: South West UK

Im confused!
I can eat cheese,drink milk,eat bread,and many of the things lots of people cant with chronic ibs. Im starting to think that my sometimes D sometimes C is all to do with my panic and anxiety attacks.. a nervous tummy.not related to food at all???
I only thought it colud be ibs as it started when i stopped my SSRI antidepressants for panic attacks. I went to my doctor yesterday and hes put me back on them. so maybe il b a little more relaxed.
Although all this new theory ive found doesnt answer why once in a blue moon,every 8-12 weeks i get awful stomach cramps very intense low abdomen and have D for a few hours,then im C for few days. Could this just be a normal thing that happens every now and again?!
i dont know what ive got wrong with me now!?


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Re: Maybe i havent got ibs at all?? new
      #68127 - 05/06/04 08:03 AM

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Hi! Have you read this page about the symptoms for IBS http://www.helpforibs.com/footer/rome_guidelines.asp and have you had tests done by your doctor for IBS? Sound like you may have IBS with alternating D and C. Some people have dominate "c" or "d" and others have the symptoms alternating. Are your bowel movements "normal" most of the time?

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Re: Maybe i havent got ibs at all?? new
      #68128 - 05/06/04 08:05 AM
jenX

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you say you can eat milk, cheese, etc. i wonder about that. if you are flaring from time to time, then it's possible you do have IBS. if that's the case, then you should eliminate these foods whether you think you can tolerate them or not. try that for a few months and see if your episodes disappear. remember, the reason for eliminating these dairy products aren't because we are lactose intolerant, though some of us may be, but because these items are GI irritants. that means they can cause problems when your system is unstable. i can eat cheese and have a yogurt, too, and many days there's no problem. however, when my system is unstable, these things send me right to the bathroom. i eliminate them all the time so that i don't have to be surprised by an attack.

have you had all of the tests to eliminate other things? did your doctor definitively diagnose IBS?

certainly, if you have IBS even mildly, your anxiety can be having a strong impact. you may notice and improvement now that you're back on your meds. anxiety is stress, and stress is an IBS trigger.

hope you are well, soon.

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Re: Maybe i havent got ibs at all?? new
      #68131 - 05/06/04 08:09 AM
Gurgle

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Hi
Well, ive not had any internal examinations. but my doctor has prescripbed me Antispasmodic drugs to take before i eat,after i gave him my symptoms.
My history includes 6years of panic attacks and anxiety,and the ibs is new. Some days i have what i would call "normal bowel function". other days im "loose".. and sometimes i cant go at all! but theres no pattern. i could eat exactly the same thing over a few days and my bowel would produce something different everyday!
This is whats making me think that i trigger the changes myself by causing the "upset" by stress from anxiety?
If i go to the toilet and im having a bad day, "loose movements".. i tend to find myself having a panic attack.. and it becomes worse. If i didnt panic and told myself it was normal to have this occasionally.. maybe it wouldnt happen at all?

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      #68132 - 05/06/04 08:13 AM
Gurgle

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thanks for the great advice. although i eat yoghurts,cheese,eggs and i have good days for days! ive tried cutting these out before and its the same so i thought i might as well eat them!
ive found that there isnt a certain food that'll trigger me.. its my mood. weather im having a bad anxiety day,or not.
when you say stress triggers ibs i agree. but i cant see that any particualar foods will make any difference??

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Diagnosis new
      #68139 - 05/06/04 08:28 AM
Linz

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You HAVE to have the tests (inc. a colonoscopy) to have IBS diagnosed. Your doctor should NOT have diagnosed you without doing these first. Go back and DEMAND either a referal to a GI specialist or a colonoscopy. This is VERY important, especially as you have slightly abnormal symptoms (though it could still be IBS).

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Re: Maybe i havent got ibs at all?? new
      #68149 - 05/06/04 08:39 AM
jenX

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the reason that foods make a difference is because they are GI irritants.

let me try an analogy....

do you know anyone with mild to moderate asthma? i had that when i was in college. ok, on most normal weekends i could go to a bar or a party where the air was filled with cigarette (and other!) smoke and have no problems aside from stinking like an ashtray the next day. so, in those cases, one could argue that 2nd hand smoke, even copious amounts, was not an asthma trigger for me.

HOWEVER... if i had bronchitis, i couldn't stand near a smoker outside in the fresh air without having an asthma attack. in those cases, 2nd hand smoke, even in minute amounts, was definitely a major asthma trigger for me, even though it normally wasn't.

in the same way, dairy products, caffiene, high-fat products, and other things identified in this diet are IBS triggers, just like the smoke was a trigger for my asthma. IBS means that your large intestines aren't working properly, just like my lungs weren't with the bronchitis. in IBS, your large intestines are prone to either pushing things through too fast (causing diarrhea) or too slowly (causing constipation), or sometimes switching back and forth between. if you put a known GI irritant in your mouth, it will eventually make its way to the large intestines where they will irritate the already messed up system there. sadly, though we love those foods, they are known GI irritants. the reason i am emphasizing that is this: Heather didn't make up the fact that dairy and caffiene and other triggers are GI irritants. they just ARE, and studies and doctors and researchers agree! i loved my coffee, but even back in the day before IBS i knew that a strong cup of coffee in the morning would trigger a BM. lots of smokers and coffee drinkers will tell you the same.

i don't care if you used to eat a gigantic cheeseburger and large fries while sipping your Diet Coke and following it with an icecream sundae. i used to be able to do that, too. however, i cannot now because i have IBS. now, i may not want to believe that, but it's true. cutting all of the triggers identified on this diet, eating the recommended way, adding soluble fiber supplements.... these things all help me stay diarrhea-free. i have not had diarrhea yet this year. and this time a year ago i was having diarrhea 10-12 times before noon EVERY DAY. i never thought that my cheeseburgers were responsible, however i was so fed up with being sick i gave Heather's diet a chance and followed it 100% (though it took 6 months of cheating to really get to 100%). once i DID give it 100%, i got well. and i stay well. so, you may believe that these foods aren't a problem, but i think your colon disagrees! i read your other post... you sound like you're in attack-mode a lot of the time. you may be surprised to find relief if you try this diet 100%.

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Re: Diagnosis new
      #68154 - 05/06/04 08:44 AM
Gurgle

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All they did was take a stool sample and listen to my symptoms.. prescribed me with an anti spasmodic,and some anti diorreal tablets if im having a bad day, and see how that works!
never a mention of looking into it any further,and i just thought that when my Doctor said "thats ibs" i beleived him.. but he might be wrong i guess!


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Re: Maybe i havent got ibs at all?? new
      #68170 - 05/06/04 09:04 AM
Gurgle

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Loc: South West UK

i can see what your saying, but i still find it hard to understand! the items on the insoluble fibre list like wholewheat,wholegrain bread.. grapes,rasins etc. and all the other things i can eat without having anything in my stomach and be totally fine.Then il get one through back day where i have D.
I havent had a colonoscopy or anything like that,to diagnose. the doctor prescribed me as IBS from the symptoms i told him.
What i was classing as D on a day to day basis,really isnt compared to some of the stories ive read on hear. Its "loose" BM. with D maybe every 3 months 2 or 3 times then the pain goes for another few months!?
i think my panic disorder has made me throw it all out of proportion..making me feel worse.


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Re: Maybe i havent got ibs at all?? new
      #68174 - 05/06/04 09:07 AM
Roz

Reged: 02/29/04
Posts: 35
Loc: New York

I have not had diarrhea yet this year, and this time a year ago I was having diarrhea 10-12 times before noon EVERY DAY

That's absolutely amazing and wonderful!! If only my husband could stabilize like you have! You give a person hope that it is possible. Do you take acacia..if so, can I ask how much? Have you totally eliminated dairy, fat, and meat from your diet? Thanks!!

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