Need Some Reassurance!!!!!!!!
#66956 - 05/03/04 08:11 AM
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OK - so i'm thinking i'm a little slow because i'm having trouble understanding the insoluble fibre thing.
Everything was under control - i've looked back in my food diary (great suggestion Bev! ) and see that i was doing well when i was eating the same thing every day - soluble fibre based with a bit of insoluble fibre. I went for a week or so going to the bathroom every day (and i'm a C) 
Now i've started eating more insoluble fibre (still with the soluble fibre base) and i'm C again. I'm taking my Acacia (2 TSP/day) and drinking tons of water and peppermint and fennel tea.
I guess i'm just having trouble getting it in my head that the fruit and veggies may be causing the C/"spasms" that cause C... (You know, having been brain-washed to eat "ruffage" for "regularity") and all.
Can you just confirm for me that yes - i should still eat solubles primarily and incorporate insolubles slowly and that yes - fruit and veggies can cause C 
Thanks! Ana
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Ana, I'm a D (never had C), so I can't help you out much here; I'm sorry. But you need the insolubles. Odd that you would have C AFTER incorporating some insolubles into your diet; it would seem that it should be the other way around.
How long has it been since you started adding in the fruit and veggies? Maybe your body is still adjusting. Also, you're taking in 2TSP of acacia a day. Is that Tablespoons? Or Teaspoons? How long have you been at that dosage? Perhaps it's time to being increasing a little bit.
I just think the body needs time to adjust to any big change. Adjusting your soluble fiber supplement is a big change, as well as adding in more fruits and veggies. The body is so incredible sensitive, especially for us IBS-ers.
What kind of fruit are you eating? Any blueberries? They really make me "GO", big time. They're my favorite fruit, so I tend to eat more of them than any other, but I have to use them sparingly because, well, I'm a D, and as I said they make me go. Give them a try -- but only a few. How about some home made blueberry pancakes? With wild blueberry jam -- oooooh baby!
Someone else will have to confirm that fruit and veggies cause C -- cause I have a hard time believing it's true. But you're not at all "slow," don't think that. If anything, your body is slow -- slow to adjust. Just like all of us. Be gentle with yourself, Girlfriend.
Bev
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in my experience (I'm a C too) fruits and veggies are just incredibly hard for my body to process and digest properly. But you still have to eat them, in whatever quantity you can handle, because they are so darn good for you. I find that bananas in my oatmeal are alright, and I sneak in raw tomatoes and peeled cucumbers into sandwiches without a problem. I think it's just trial and error until you find what works for you. Also, try different insoluable fiber suppliments. Some will work better for you than others. I like taking Citrucel powder in the morning and at night, and a couple of Fibercon tablets every single time I eat and whenever my belly starts feeling empty. Hope that helped!
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Thanks for your reply Bev 
I've also had a hard time understanding how the fruit/veggies can make me C. I had sort of assumed that for C'ers, rather than getting D when eating insolubles our colons just seize up when we eat insolubles??? Not sure - maybe Heather or someone else can help enlighten me! 
I'm now taking 2 teaspoons Acacia - with breakfast and with dinner. I had been up to 3 Tablespoons a day but there was a delay in getting my next batch in the mail so I was off it for about a week - I'm starting to take it again slowly as I wasn't on any fiber supplement for a week...
Blueberries - love em! Great minds.... That's precisely what I've been trying to use to get me going...mostly in my fruit smoothies in the morning with banana and sometimes with strawberries too. No worries about quantity though - sometimes I eat a lot of them (a few tablespoons in the smoothie with banana and soy milk) and still no go 
Hope I'm right about the insolubles causing C / "seizing" up the plumbing - if not I'm really lost! 
Ana
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Can you just confirm for me that yes - i should still eat solubles primarily and incorporate insolubles slowly and that yes - fruit and veggies can cause C
Ana, that's definitely my understanding, although I'm a D so I don't know from experience, just from reading Heather's books.
Any more C's out there to help Ana on this??
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I heard once that bananas (like cheese) "bind you up." Is that true? I don't know because I've never had a problem in that department! I am SOOOOO a D!
Ana, it sounds like you're doing everything right. I just wonder about the bananas ....
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I've also had a hard time understanding how the fruit/veggies can make me C. I had sort of assumed that for C'ers, rather than getting D when eating insolubles our colons just seize up when we eat insolubles??? Not sure - maybe Heather or someone else can help enlighten me! 
Okay, someone may have to correct me if I'm wrong but here's what I picture in my mind about my colon:
I'm an IBS-Cer, and when I eat insoluble fibers (fruits and vegetables included), it's a "rough" fiber - not smooth like the other soluble fibers. Your body is taking tons of nutrients and vitamins from the insoluble fiber, causing it not to absorb as much water by the time it reaches the large intestines. Where as soluble fiber does not contain as many nutrients and vitamins, allowing it to absorb more water and pass through the large intestines more easily.
That might be an off the wall answer, but was the only idea that I could come up with. 
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I've also heard that bananas are constipating. I'm an IBS-D, sometimes IBS-A, so I've been staying away from bananas.
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just wondered if you might add your thoughts to this thread as you wrote the book on it! 
I used to think bananas cause C (along with rice) but since I've been on this diet I saw that bananas are soluble fibre so I gobbled them up! 
I've looked on the site for the quote and can't find it but I think somewhere here or in one of your books you say that folks with C are afraid to eat the way the diet stipulates because they feel many of the foods are "binding".
Is it that fruits and veggies - the insoluble part/ones - can cause C? The week that I didn't take a fibre supplement I was having strawberry/bananas smoothies EVERY MORNING and usually white rice with chicken and veggies / tuna sandwiches on white begal / your glorious lemon bread / Miso soup / hummus and pita / rice pudding / English muffins... I was having a movement around the same time every day and it was not painful AT ALL. It was HEAVENNNNNNNNNNN! 
Do C'ers need to be careful of the fruits/veggies as they can cause C?
Thanks - sorry for the rambling!!!!!! Ana
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