A few confusing things....
#369791 - 07/14/13 11:43 PM
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Ok. First Question.
1. I know that we cannot just eat raw carrots and celery etc alone because they have the Insoluble Fibre and that is a MAJOR trigger.
However, even when juiced so there is no grainy-ness etc..a lot of people with IBS can have gastro symptoms, cramping and diarrhea.
What actually causes this? The IF should not be there anymore should it?
2. We all know we can't just stop eating our vegies even though it is a major trigger for me. I watched on YouTube Heather making some Turkey Club sandwiches and I was really shocked at how much IF she put on there. I can't eat that much and I know what Heather put on is not considered a LOT by most peoples' standards. I am really concerned that I am not getting hardly any vegies at all unless they are of the pureed potato/pumpkin variety if I even react to the small amount Heather puts in her sandwiches.
I have a lot of Soluble Fibre when I eat like rice etc, so is it true that if we can try and tolerate some vegies that have IF, that by theory we could do the same with other foods that are triggers aswell? For example, if you loved coffee or icecream or steak it would be foolish to have it. But if you have a bowl of plain rice before you eat it aswell as lots of digestive enzymes and soluble fibre supplement, is it possible you could tolerate it? I know that the only reason we do that with vegies is because they are good for us and there's no nutrition in coffee or icecream that we really need, but would it be ok to do that like just once a month?
Edited by Roxstar (07/15/13 01:06 AM)
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1. IF is not completely removed by juicing. A juicer shreds veggies and some of the shreds are small enough to pass through the sieve. One way to reduce the IF is to peel veggies before juicing. The skin of a vegetable contains a high amount of insoluble fiber. Also, some veggies are high FODMAP foods such as garlic, onions, legumes etc. Even if these foods were juiced it would not remove the FODMAPs. For more information on FODMAPs read the first three links in my signature.
2. I am very sensitive to foods with lots of insoluble fiber. My vegetables are restricted to well cooked and peeled carrots, potatoes and zucchini as well as roasted peeled red peppers and tomato paste. I eat as much of these as possible each day and I have done so for more than a decade with no ill effects.
While Heather says the if you eat a good soluble fiber base you should be able to eat more insoluble fiber foods. I have never found this approach works for me. I do however only eat vegetables that have at least equal amounts of soluble and insoluble fiber.
BTW - digestive enzymes may not be of much benefit. Enzymes are proteins and many digestive enzymes cannot survive the strong acid in the stomach. Except for disease our bodies produce all the digestive enzymes we need. In case of disease like lactose intolerance an enzyme like lactase which can survive stomach acid is useful. It is best to choose individual enzymes for individual reasons and only digestive enzymes that are know to survive the stomach acid or else it is just a waste of money.  For more information check out Go Ask Alice at Columbia University and the article Enzyme hype gives some people a headache have good write-ups on enzymes and digestive enzyme supplements. I believe I directed you to these articles once before.
Caffeine containing foods (coffee, teas, etc) and high fat or high lactose foods like ice cream are strong GI stimulants. If you eat them once in a while then be prepared for a couple of days of discomfort and perhaps pain after you eat them. I find it best to avoid them completely 
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Hmnn. You tell it like it is, Syl. Thanks for that!
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