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Food Intolerances
      #367369 - 05/03/12 07:22 AM
berwin

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I have been diagnosed with IBS. Before this diagnosis, I had been for food allergy testing (2 times with different doctors) and was found to have an allergy or intolerance to SEVERAL foods.(i.e. spinach, turkey, potatoes, egg whites, basil, oregano....the list goes on) My question is, has anyone else been told they have several food intolerances and/or could this have been the findings due to my IBS? I am trying to follow the IBS diet, but having a hard time due to my limitations with "food intolerances".

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      #367370 - 05/03/12 07:27 AM
Syl

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Welcome to the board,

Were your food sensitivity tested done by a GI or allegry doctor? Or were they done by a naturpathic doctor or at commercial testing lab? Do you recall the name of the test that was used?


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      #367372 - 05/03/12 08:27 AM
berwin

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My first testing was done by an allergist and clinical immunologist doctor and was the standard allergy testing, i.e. pin pricks to lower arm to gauge reaction to specific foods. The other testing was done by a naturopath (not sure the name of the testing), and I was given laser acupuncture for allergies. By the way, these tests were done a few years apart. The second doctor did not know the results from the first doctor and both doctors came up with the same allergies/intolerances.

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      #367373 - 05/03/12 09:02 AM
Syl

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Very interesting. The skin prick is quite reliable. The delay reaction blood test is notoriously unreliable. I had a skin test many years ago. Fortunately I have very few allergies.

Unfortunately there is no clinical evidence to support the use of laser acupuncture for allergies. In fact there is an interesting article on the Science-Based Medicine about Biofeedback and Laser for Allergies.

It will be an interesting task to use the Heather's diet with your allergies but it can be done. You might also read the first two links in my signature about a clinical tested diet (FODMAP diet) for managing functional bowel disorders like IBS. It has been shown to reduce IBS symptoms by 70-80%. Many of us on the board use Heather diet in conjunction with the FODMAP diet with reasonable success.

Ask lots of questions. There are many knowledgeable people on the board.


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      #367374 - 05/03/12 09:31 AM
berwin

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Thank you for your responses. I am following Heather's diet, with some success (less D) but am gaining weight and am bloated, with pain, all the time. Truthfully, I had read some on the FODMAP approach, but I feel by the time I take into account Heather's diet, FODMAPs approach and also take into account what I already can't tolerate, I will not be able to eat anything at all!! I have just started taking control of my IBS over the past 4-6 months, so I am still working on it and again, I really appreciate your feedback and suggestions.

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      #367375 - 05/03/12 10:09 AM
Syl

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Are you IBS-C or IBS-D?

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      #367376 - 05/03/12 10:54 AM
berwin

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Before going on Heather's diet, I was IBS-D. Now, I don't go for three to four days, and then I can't stop going for one to two days and the cycle starts all over again.

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      #367377 - 05/03/12 11:48 AM
Syl

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Gosh - you are IBS-A. It really might be worth looking at the FODMAP approach.

Maybe other people have some suggestions.

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      #367378 - 05/03/12 12:07 PM
berwin

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Okay, I am new to this. IBS-D and IBS-C I can figure out. What is IBS-A?

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      #367379 - 05/03/12 01:01 PM
berwin

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Nevermind, I just finished reading more on the message boards and found out what it means. I have a lot of reading and learning to do. Thanks!

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      #367454 - 05/15/12 05:07 AM
Clifton

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Syl, do you also add a probiotic in your diet along with the combination diet you have mentioned below? Is Lactobacillus acidophilus OK?
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Many of us on the board use Heather diet in conjunction with the FODMAP diet with reasonable success.



I have also started on the FODMAP approach after reading the links you sent. Do we have to give up gluten based bread for at least 6 to 8 weeks and re-introduce it after that to see its effects? Or can we avoid it completely?

Btw, I tried GF corn and GF rice flakes but that also resulted in IBS-D. What other GF cereals do you recommend?
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      #367457 - 05/15/12 08:00 AM
Syl

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Very few probiotics have been shown to reduce IBS symptoms in clinical trials. Lactobacillus acidophilus is ok for general GI health but not particularly useful for managing IBS symptoms. A few probiotics that have been shown to be some what effective are VSL#3, Align and Digestive Advantage.

Gluten is not in any of the FODMAP groups. It does not have to be eliminated. If you check the table in the first link in my signature in the FODMAP Friendly section it says "Gluten-free breads/cereals, rice and corn pasta, rice cakes, and potato and tortilla chips" are okay but you need to check the ingredients to make sure they don't contain honey, high fructose corn syrup or agave. The reason they are okay is because gluten free products don't contain wheat which contains gluten and fructans. Fructans are the problem so gluten free products don't contain wheat.

BTW - corn and rice are naturally gluten free.

You should remove all FODMAP containing foods from your diet for 2-3 weeks and then slowly start introducing foods from each FODMAP group one group at a time to see which FODMAP group foods are effecting your IBS symptoms.

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      #367458 - 05/15/12 01:14 PM
Clifton

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Thanks Syl for having opened my eyes

I looked at the labels again and found that they contained - organic grape and/or pear juice in one packet and the other had organic evaporated cane juice and organic molasses!!

Are these the culprits then?

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      #367460 - 05/15/12 02:05 PM
Syl

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Pear (and apple) juice is definite a culprit if you are sensitive to foods with excess fructose (i.e. more fructose than glucose). Molasses may or may not have excess fructose depending on how it is produced. The grape juice may or may not have excess fructose depending on the type of grape. Evaporated cane juice may or may not be a problem depending on the grade that is used. For the time being it might be best to avoid all of them.

Pay particular attention to the foods to avoid listed under the "Fructose" column in the first article linked to in my signature. Unfortunately, the table doesn't include everything but it is fairly complete.

Tell us how it works

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      #367461 - 05/16/12 12:24 AM
Clifton

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Syl, I will

Already I am seeing benefits.

I have stopped eating apple, dropped the bread I used to eat, cut the chocolate powder I used to mix with rice milk. For porridge I drink rice milk with sago – quite tasty! I have also reduced my fruit intake from about 4 servings to 2. Also I eat every 2 hours smaller portions. My waistline has reduced and the motions are not very loose except if I choose the wrong foods.

My wife has a tough time keeping up with my demands, but as she is a good cook, I am among the lucky few Till she takes a vacation without me Then also, she packs food in small plastic bags in the freezer!!

I take soluble fibre before a restaurant meal. I drink peppermint teas when required or take immodium when it is too much.
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      #367482 - 05/18/12 06:32 PM
Colettobros

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I was tested for food sensitivities, and the knowledge I've gained re: what I should and shoudn't eat has changed my life!

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      #367483 - 05/18/12 06:33 PM
Colettobros

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Peppermint tea is my new best friend . I dRink it nearly every night after dinner.

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