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green and black pepper and cinnamon
      #363734 - 02/28/11 03:02 AM
CellSalts_Work

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question for Syl or anyone else who may be in the know

green peppers, when they are cooked, are they safe then? (I think green peppers eaten raw contains a lot more IF)

black pepper as a spice, and indeed cinnamon, and cumin powder, how do these fare on the IBS safeness scale? and are these ok from a FODMAP viewpoint?

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Re: green and black pepper and cinnamon new
      #363736 - 02/28/11 04:09 AM
Syl

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I eat well cooked peeled green peppers. Removing the skin removes a lot of the IF. I don't do well with black pepper. I can handle about 1/6 teaspoon of well-ground curry powder per serving which can contain a small amount of cumin. I have not tried cumin powder by itself. I use cinamon sticks when I want cinnamon flavor but I remove the sticks before serving or storing.

From a FODMAP perspective they are all safe.

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Re: green and black pepper and cinnamon new
      #363744 - 02/28/11 10:11 AM
CellSalts_Work

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thanks re chicken and thanks regarding these too.

I am guessing ground cinnamon and ground black pepper all have too much IF for you?? would you know how much per teaspoonful?

another query - almonds and hazelnuts, high in fat and IF right? but FODMAP safe?

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Re: green and black pepper and cinnamon new
      #363749 - 02/28/11 11:00 AM
Syl

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A teaspoon of black pepper weight roughly 2.1 grams and contains roughly the same amount of IF. One teaspoon of cinnamon weight about the same. On this web page there is a table that gives you the number of teaspoons per ounce for a variety of herbs and spices

Almonds and hazelnut are FODMAP safe.


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Cinnamon new
      #363810 - 03/01/11 06:31 PM
danmurph321

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I had not really considered whether cinnamon was safe or not. I use it every morning in my oatmeal and put it in all my baked quick breads which I eat twice a day. And I occasionally use it with other seasonings on meats.

I also tend to use a lot of cumin in meats, rice, and vegetables.

Perhaps I am incorrect but I thought spices in general were OK. Maybe these are the hidden culprits making me feel so ill everyday.

So spices are insoluble fiber? How much do they contain and is it safer if added before something is baked/cooked rather than adding it on afterwards?



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re: black pepper new
      #363828 - 03/02/11 07:30 PM
skh

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i didn't realize spices had IF either fortunately i am able to use black pepper!!!..i load up almost everything i eat with it..corse black pepper...i thought it was safe and sure hope i can continue to use it

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Re: Cinnamon new
      #363829 - 03/02/11 08:41 PM
Allisonmary

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JUst make sure to eat it like anything else that is insoluble, with soluble fiber. No one eats cinnamon plain anyways, I dont think

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Spices and IF new
      #363831 - 03/03/11 04:31 AM
Syl

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A spice is a dried seed, fruit, root, bark, leaf, or vegetative substance used in nutritionally insignificant quantities as a food additive for the purpose of flavour, colour, or as a preservative that kills harmful bacteria or prevents their growth.

On the IF web page Heather says "In general, if a plant food (no animal products contain fiber) seems rough, stringy, has a tough skin, hull, peel, pod, or seeds, be careful, as it's likely very high in insoluble fiber."

Generally speaking spices such as cinnamon from bark and black pepper from seeds are 100% IF. Spices have about 12 to 17 teaspoons per oz or approximately 1.5 to 2.5 grams IF per teaspoon.

In general one uses very little spice in a meal and usually individuals on the EFI diet eat them with a good SF base with no problems. However, some individuals like myself find they can be a problem even when eaten with a good SF base.

As usual with IBS you have to figure what works for you. There isn't a universal diet suitable for everyone just some general guidelines.

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