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recommended Probiotics?
      #363520 - 02/20/11 01:07 PM
happy2b

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forgive me as i am a newbie, so i wasn't sure where to post this question: can a Probiotic be taken without a Prebiotic, and vice-versa? Also, what are the best over-the-counter Probiotics? There are so many of them at the drug store, it is hard to determine which ones have the necessary ingredients. I am of the understanding that those with inulin can cause gastric problems. I am just now reading the "First Year IBS" book, so am really trying to wrestle with alot of information, and getting a handle on this problem quickly. thank you, and i look forward to hearing what has been helpful to others.

H.H.

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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #363521 - 02/20/11 02:55 PM
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Only a few probiotics have been shown to be effective for managing IBS symptoms. Three probiotics that have been clinically tested that you might consider are Align, VSL#3 and Digestive Advantage . I have use Natren's Life Start which contains the same probiotic found in Align (Bifidobacterium infantis) but it comes in powder form a bottle and it has to be kept in the fridge.

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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #363522 - 02/20/11 03:40 PM
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Syl, thank you for the information. Is it necessary to take a Probiotic along with a Prebiotic, i.e., Heather's Senegal Accacia product? Can you take one without the other? Confused as to the difference between a Probiotic and a Prebiotic.

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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #363525 - 02/20/11 04:20 PM
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Prebiotics are food that probiotics (bacteria) ferment in the colon. Many soluble fiber supplements such as Heather's acacia have prebiotic properties. So do many of the foods you eat. It isn't strickly necessary to take a prebiotic with a probiotic.

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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #363526 - 02/20/11 04:29 PM
happy2b

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so then to use Heather's Prebiotic fiber, along with a probiotic product like Align, Natren, isn't too much of a good thing? secondly, can a prebiotic and a probiotic be taken at the same time, or should they be spaced out during the day? thanks Syl. you are a powerhouse of information!

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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #363528 - 02/20/11 05:01 PM
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Hi there, and welcome. There are quite a few different varieties out there. Something that I will share with you that I learned via trial and error, is that probiotics can get very expensive, expecially Align. So, really evaluate, if you decide to start one, to see if it is really working for you.

I tried 3 different kinds and two worked briefly, and one, Align, did absolutely nothing and it is very expensive.

So just make sure it is working for you, before you continue to take them and spend all that money. Hope that helps.

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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #363529 - 02/20/11 05:36 PM
happy2b

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thanks! i appreciate the feedback, since i am a newbie to the message board. yes, i am taking alot of this with a grain of salt, as far as over the counter Probiotics. it is appreciated to hear from those who have "been there done that".

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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #363538 - 02/21/11 03:53 AM
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Yes - you can take them together and at the same time. In fact some probiotics contain a prebiotic which is usually FOS or inulin. Unfortunately, these soluble fiber rapidly ferment which can produce gas and excerbate IBS symptoms.

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Syl - Culturelle? new
      #363551 - 02/21/11 11:26 AM
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Hi Syl!
I've seen some commercials for the Probiotic called Culturelle. Are you familiar with this at all?
Thanks,
Jen

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Re: Syl - Culturelle? new
      #363553 - 02/21/11 11:51 AM
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Culturelle contains Lactobacillus GG which is the same as Lactobacillus rhamnosus GG (ATCC 53103). I know of one IBS clinical trial that had this bacteria included in a cocktail of 5 other bacteria. The results were mildly positive. However, there is know way of knowing if this bacteria alone would have beneficial effects. It has been shown that this bacteria is effect for helping D in children with rotavirus infections.

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Re: Syl - Culturelle? new
      #363554 - 02/21/11 11:54 AM
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Well I guess it couldn't hurt. I'm going to try it and will keep you posted on the results.
Thanks so much!

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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #363563 - 02/21/11 02:33 PM
happy2b

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Syl,
You had mentioned the Natren probiotics, and so I felt that was a solid recommendation. I found the Natren "Healthy Trinity" probiotics at a natural foods store in our area called Earth Fare. It looks to have a higher count of the all the right stuff, and no artificial ingredients as some of the others. Again, many thanks!


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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #363569 - 02/21/11 04:43 PM
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Unfortunately, Health Trinity does not contains the probiotic strain found in Align which is Bifidobacterium infantis. Life Start and Life Start 2 are the only Natren probiotics that are equivalent to the clinically tested Align.

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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #363588 - 02/22/11 07:45 AM
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in your opinion, is the Bifidobacterium Infantis a more significant source of help (for IBS problems), as compared to the ones found in the Health Trinity? i don't mind spending $53 a month (30 capsules) on something that is beneficial, but i want to make sure i am on the right path.

otherwise, i have a pack of the GoodBelly BigShot probiotic drinks, but am not sure if these have a limited amount of what's needed?


thank you Syl.

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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #363592 - 02/22/11 08:35 AM
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As I stated in my original response there are very few probiotics that have been tested for their efficacy for managing IBS symptoms. The bacteria in Health Trinity have not been clinically tested for IBS. Bifidobacterium Infantis has been clinically tested for IBS with reasonable results .

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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #363959 - 03/10/11 01:26 PM
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Align works well for me I notice it the second day. I have a question if any one can help. Can you still eat the foods that you should not have like dairy, beans, and nuts while taking probiotics or should you just avoid them altogether?

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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #364012 - 03/18/11 10:26 AM
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I just wanted to say thank you for this post. I have been trying Heather's advice, along with different probiotics and supplements for about 6 months with little progress. After reading this post a week ago, I decided to try the Bifidobacterium infantis (Align). It is working for me! I have had gas and bloating frequently and now I'm digesting normally, even after whole grains and other trigger foods. It may not be for everyone, but I highly recommend to try this first before other strains of probiotics. Thanks so much for this post!!!

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Great news - glad to hear it worked -nt- new
      #364013 - 03/18/11 10:55 AM
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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #364053 - 03/27/11 02:15 AM
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glad it's working for you! i know Align is expensive and I was a bit skeptical, but it works quite well for me too. If I miss a day or 2 i really notice more bloating. That makes it worth it to me!

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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #364125 - 04/03/11 03:30 AM
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is there a probotic that works better for IBS-C?

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Re: recommended Probiotics? new
      #364126 - 04/03/11 05:04 AM
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Probiotics are not specific to the sub-type of IBS.

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I agree new
      #364938 - 05/30/11 07:57 AM
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I think Align has helped me too and I will continue to take it daily despite the cost.

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