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which beans are the most tolerable
      #360778 - 09/05/10 12:33 PM
CellSalts_Work

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based on IF/SF content among red/white kidney/baked beans?

(I guess green beans are a different kettle of fish and soybeans would be the best?!)

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360786 - 09/06/10 06:56 AM
Syl

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They all contain about 3 to 5 times as much IF compared to SF. Most of the IF is in the skin and SF inside. Heather says "For beans and lentils, cook and blend them into sauces, dips, soups, or spreads - their insoluble fiber is found in their outer skins and their insides are actually rich in soluble fiber."

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360794 - 09/06/10 12:08 PM
CellSalts_Work

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Thanks... I was only wondering (hoping) that there was a difference between different kinds and some were more commendable!

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360795 - 09/06/10 12:30 PM
Gerikat

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I eat the little white beans all the time. They are so good. I beleive they are called pea or navy beans. No problems at all.

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360798 - 09/06/10 03:20 PM
Gerikat

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Can you tell me more about the cell salts?

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360806 - 09/07/10 09:32 AM
CellSalts_Work

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Just google tissue cell salts or Schuessler salts, they've got to be tried to be believed how amazing they are.

you can get a general account of any of the results that come up in google, here is a more in-depth version:

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:Xndv1lDNSroJ:www.brighterdayfoods.com/PDFDocs/l/LR72WHCKJQ1V9LTGKT8CGWX7TM5B1NP5.PDF+schuessler+cell+salts+warts&hl=en&gl=hu&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjaE46HqYw-LmesG6K1mqq_I7_Bhwl72eZJyLEKiZOpUlDQFd-fQ934gBGCSOgQoQBPRnoOXcH_GYWAWbdXX2sokw1brUi-Z9MoL6JKznACFbgJt16wQQyirCms8C45WE3wfXIF&sig=AHIEtbRPZIEhUKBwSQprZ00B_xwPywesMg


I am not sure about the efficacy of alternative medicine like homeopathy, but this is not homeopathy and their effect is just instantenous. I use them not merely to alleviate the symptoms of IBS, but for numerous other problems and they are doing me tremendous service.

the only downside is that they contain a small amount of lactose, which is forbidden on Heather's diet..
but if you are in the US then there are lactose-free versions, which I myself may order, sure they can be shipped over here to Europe, if you're willing to pay.

http://schuessler-cell-salts.com/facial-diagnosis/index.htm
is also useful.

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360809 - 09/07/10 10:03 AM
shelgirl

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Great article about the cell salts. I do believe in homeopathy and have had fantastic results with certain remedies, however, have not had any one remedy help with IBS!

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360813 - 09/07/10 02:01 PM
Gerikat

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Thanks so much!

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360816 - 09/07/10 07:18 PM
Thai

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cellsalts,
I see by your sig that you are IBS-C.
May I ask what salts specifically that you take for this?
And...are they working for you in this regard?
What I am wondering is, if they are so great and of such huge benefit, then why are you on this board asking all these questions?

Not trying to be confrontational, just trying to understand.

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360830 - 09/08/10 07:29 AM
CellSalts_Work

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I am dubious about some homeopathic remedies, but cell salts work on a different basis. At any rate it would be highly unlikely that they only work on the placebo effect, I've used them far too long and far too randomly and they always helped, mostly instantenously but at other times pretty fast as well. Please do give them a shot, but bear in mind that most brands contain lactose, so the liquid from marketed by Hylands in the US may be our best shot!

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360851 - 09/08/10 07:37 PM
Thai

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OK, so which ones do you use?


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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360855 - 09/09/10 01:37 AM
CellSalts_Work

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for what? distention? or other ailments?

Please read the detailed word doc in my signature/bio and also the facial diagnosis. Based on these I regularly take:

Calc-fluor; Kalium-phosphoricum; Silicea; Ferrum-phosphoricum; Na-Chloride; Na-Sulfuricum; Na-Phosphoricum

Mg-Phosphoricum for symptomatic cramping sometimes

for bloating those Natriums appear the best, but I know that the kind of bloating I have is exactly because of sluggish bowel movements. So I seek to treat that. for that the greatest help is silicea and kalium-phosphoricum. these two feel as though they relax my digestive tract.

Again, this may well be pseudo-scientific, but works for me, for IBS and other ailments I have. The variety I take also contains a small amount of lactose unfortunately.

I take them half an hour before meals (and after not eating anything for half an hour), depending on the circumstances 3 times a day. I let them dissolve in the mouth.

Check my links for further info, hope they work for you if you decide to give them a try.




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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360878 - 09/10/10 07:59 AM
gizmo

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I just found this great recipe for slow cooked white chicken chili. It calls for great northern beans. I looked it up online and saw that it's a type of white bean related to the kidney or pinto bean. Does anyone know if this would be OK to eat? I love slow cooked stuff in the winter and fall.

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360879 - 09/10/10 09:40 AM
Syl

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All beans are high in dietary fiber. The skin is IF and the interior contains both SF and IF. It is best to treat all beans like Heather suggests -- eat small amounts with lots of soluble fiber foods and perhaps ground up or mashed. If you are IBS-D then you might not be able to eat them at all. I cannot.

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360880 - 09/10/10 11:20 AM
gizmo

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Thanks for the info. I'm going to have to try it out and see how it works for me. I appreciate the info.

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360881 - 09/10/10 03:09 PM
Gerikat

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You won't know until you give it a try. I eat Great Northern, but prefer the smaller white bean. Good luck!

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I haven't touch a bean in 5 yrs. How do I get them back now?-nt new
      #360887 - 09/11/10 02:28 PM
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black or white- nt new
      #360889 - 09/11/10 05:51 PM
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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #360894 - 09/12/10 08:44 AM
gizmo

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I think I might try a smaller white bean. I think I would like that better. Thanks for the info. I'll have to give it a try.

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Re: which beans are the most tolerable new
      #361116 - 09/26/10 08:03 AM
bermudakate

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are some cell salts contained in Hyland's Calms Forte? do you know? i think they are...love the stuff. lactose doesn't seem to bother me in them.

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