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Re: is there a reason you are avoiding me, Syl? new
      #368858 - 12/29/12 04:09 PM
Syl

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I have been busy.

You cannot seem to grasp the fundamentals of the diet. FODMAPs are carbohydrates. Fat & oils are not carbohydrates.

I suggest you look for a registered dietitian in your area who can guide you though the diet.

Good luck


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Re: is there a reason you are avoiding me, Syl? new
      #368859 - 12/29/12 05:09 PM
Cyndy

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These foods are not fats or oils. what is wrong with turnips, butternut squash, and maple syrup? Is pumpkin considered low fodmap? Or other FOODS I asked about. I don't understand why you go out of your way to tell people about the fodmap diet but refuse to answer my questions. I'm taking it personally...thanks. Very hurt that you aren't willing to help me when you know the answers.

And I wouldn't know how to find a dietician who works with fodmap and even if I could, they are very expensive. I'm on my own, here. I know the dietician in the eating disorder program i went to never heard of fodmap.


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      #368947 - 01/02/13 02:32 PM
Susie1985

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Syl's links and his advice in general is the best you'll ever get.

While there is no definitive list of what you should eat, if you were to eat only these below for 2 weeks, you should start to feel better and then you may experiment with introducing some other foods ONE BY ONE. but these are v safe:

porridge (cooked in water), boiled/baked potatoes (no skin), cooled white rice, grilled chicken breast, shrimp, white fish, boiled carrots, peeled baked peppers, peeled cooked courgette (ie zucchini), tomato paste, orange juice, no-pulp-berry juice and a BIT of fat with each meal (salmon/olive oil to mention two of the healthiest options, one yellow banana daily.


this should not be confusing for you, stick to these foods for 2-3 weeks and see how your bowel movements and everything normalise.

good luck.

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now: stable through EFI+FODMAP dieting (no lactose/no fructose/some fructans and some polyols)

before: IBS-D(pseudo-diarrhoea), bloating, often unbearable pain esp from too much fat: Apr 2007- Dec 2010


FODMAPs: http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/072710p30.shtml


[I've tried VSL#3 -> I could tolerate v good amounts of IF (even with less SF), it worked great (but overall I find it too expensive)]

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Re: for Cyndy new
      #368949 - 01/02/13 04:59 PM
Cyndy

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thanks for the support, but there have been changes/limitations on certain foods that differ from Syl's links. I have been researching Patsy Castsos (IBS-Free at Last), the Monash University where the fodmap diet started, as well as Kate Scalata's site and they all have differing info than what syl's current links state. And I know Patsy says that fresh tomato is lower in fodmap than the paste or canned...so I'm not sure tomato paste is okay.

Plus, I really believe I need more foods than what you listed as v safe. That diet just depresses me! I do want to feel better, though. I'm ready to give up.

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Re: for Cyndy new
      #368963 - 01/06/13 01:18 PM
Susie1985

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Instead of giving up, how about giving that diet a chance? It's for 3 weeks, not for ever and once you have easily passable BMs more than 3 times per week but less than 3 times a day, you may start introducing the various foods ONE BY ONE from your most uptodate source on FODMAPs. Even that may be too liberal mind, it takes time for you to find what you can tolerate and in what amounts. once that is established then you may look for which nutrients you are missing out on.

Chances are that you'll have to take iron and calcium supplements at the v least and vit B complex can't hurt either. But everything else you will have even with that v limited diet. You are aware that if your diet is as varied as a normal person's but you have more than 3 BMs a day you are probably still not getting all the nutrients absorbed from the food you eat, as you have basically constant diarrhoea. so I fail to see why it'd be such a disaster to go on a diet that will calm your gut and get you all the vitamins and minerals (with the exception of calcium and iron).

Syl I believe is as sensitive to fructose as they come and he eats tomato paste, it's highly ulikely that you'd have problems from it.



I'd give that basic diet a go if I were you, and see if things return to normal after a few weeks. (If they don't then you may have some other underlying issue and my first recommendation would be to go ask for a thyroid test from your doctor).

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now: stable through EFI+FODMAP dieting (no lactose/no fructose/some fructans and some polyols)

before: IBS-D(pseudo-diarrhoea), bloating, often unbearable pain esp from too much fat: Apr 2007- Dec 2010


FODMAPs: http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/072710p30.shtml


[I've tried VSL#3 -> I could tolerate v good amounts of IF (even with less SF), it worked great (but overall I find it too expensive)]

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