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Re: Constipation Is Worse Than Ever new
      #353939 - 01/04/10 05:34 PM
Little Minnie

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You could add lots of good choices. I don't recommend apples, pears, grapes or melons, but citrus, bananas, pineapple, peaches, mangoes are great for snacks. Canned fruit or fruit cocktail in light syrup or juice is great and easily digestible.
For veggies stay away from anything raw for now, and don't do corn, peppers, onions, broccoli, cauli, cabbage yet. Try the green beans in the fresh micro bag in produce, frozen peas and even snap peas, asparagus, well cooked fennel, well cooked greens beyond the spinach you already do, carrots, parsnips, squash, sweet potatoes. Check the frozen dept for quick veggie choices. Make some homemade guacamole.

Also at this point IMO you have to concentrate on getting regular and then the bloating and ickiness that comes with it. You don't, however, want to backlash with too much of the real laxative stuff like prunes, wheat bran, bran muffins, Fiber One products, or anything like that.
Try hot herbal teas and a heating pad. There is something about the hot tea that encourages poo. Also it helps get more fluids in pretty easily. You are getting exercise which is good. I know it is hard to figure out safe foods when you don't cook much and want life easy and normal.

My husband says try a big bowl of cheerios or life before bed.

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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Re: Constipation Is Worse Than Ever new
      #354062 - 01/05/10 09:07 PM
Naturapanic

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Are you saying that the only fruit and veggies you eat are applesauce in the morning and frozen spinach at dinner?
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Yes.

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Give natural calm a try. Others on this board claim it works for them.



How can natural calm help when it is not designed primarily for Constipation?
Wouldn't Milk of Magnesia/Mirialax/Lactulose be better?


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Every so often a little MOM or Phillips chews isn't horrible. It is bad to take too often. Another option for occassional use is Miralax. Taking more SFS and drinking more will help in the long run. Just want to ask; you don't take PM meds like Tyl PM do you?



No Tyl PM or similar meds.

Which is better...MOM/Miralax/Lactulose/Natural Calm given the circumstances...I can get either?


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I don't recommend apples, pears, grapes or melons, but citrus, bananas, pineapple, peaches, mangoes are great for snacks. Canned fruit or fruit cocktail in light syrup or juice is great and easily digestible.




Heather's EFI diet says to have apples/peaches/pears if canned...and NOT to have citrus or pinneapple.

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Re: Constipation Is Worse Than Ever new
      #354064 - 01/05/10 09:18 PM
Naturapanic

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I suppose what I really want to know, what is really setting me off and making me quite worried is

1) WHY am I suddenly feeling this way...why isn't it getting better...and when will it?

I have been following IBS rules for 5 years and it never has gotten to this extent and for this length of time.
Usually I might have a relapse but by now, the body has recovered and bounced back to relative comfort.
This time around, that is not the case.

Now if I did a colon cleanse or something I can see.
The only thing I did was:

1) Prep for bacterial test (no probiotic for 2 week and no benefiber for 1 week)....and this test was a month ago
2) Switched to Align for 1.5 week after the test was done. After which for the last week I have been back on Jarrowdophillus Acidophillus.
-I also tinkered and went off Oat Bran for a week...but have been back on Oat and Bran and applesauce for a week.

I would have figured with almost a week supplementing and easting "back to normal" my body would be almost recovered.
It's not.
Yes I still go and take dump...but I do not let gas nearly as much, the stool movements are not as regular nor as lumpy, and many times during the day I feel like my whole body is just stuck.

I got 8.3% bodyfat...and yet my stomach is swelled and bloated like I am pregnant or just ate a pizza.
I just do not get why after all these years I am in such a desperate state.

I'd feel better if I knew this was just due to the combo of prepping for my test+taking align and that all should subside soon.
I'm just not getting that signal and it is very distressing.

I do not know who to turn to?
I mean, should I go and see a doctor about the constipation...I can't live this way...it's just not fair...I did not do anything to provocate this...I diet hard...I eat clean...I pay extra close attention.
I'm starting to wonder what I did to deserve this and if I will ever come out because right now, the normal remedies and measures I take
(Heathers EFI diet+Benefiber+Jarrows) my regular diet and supplements which have always gotten decent results aren't.

1) Is there any reason why I am still so far worse off?
This really makes no sense that suddenly I had this awful relapse.
Could prepping for the bacterial test+stopping oat bran w/applesauce+trying align be to blame...still?
Thoe most panicking part is not knowing why this is going on...I have been following my body closely for 5 years and never seen it this bad, for this long, and would like, if possible, some explanation so I know it will be ok.
This constant feeling of feeling constipated/bloated and backed despite the same diet is really, really irritating me.

I'm at a loss and don't know if this is something which will run it's course, if I need to see a doctor (and even then...what kind of DR.? Should I even see an MD or a homepathic?)

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Re: Constipation Is Worse Than Ever new
      #354073 - 01/06/10 05:54 AM
Syl

Reged: 03/13/05
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I mean, should I go and see a doctor about the constipation




If you have talked to a GI specialist about the constipation problem then you definitely should. Where you originally diagnosed with IBS by a GI doctor? Did a GI doctor prescribe the SIBO test and the antibiotics? What did that doctor have to say about your constipation?

Good luck


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Re: Constipation Is Worse Than Ever new
      #354076 - 01/06/10 06:02 AM
Syl

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Loc: SK, CANADA

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Heather's EFI diet says to have apples/peaches/pears if canned...and NOT to have citrus or pinneapple




Up to 50% of IBSers have problems with these fruits because they have excess fructose (more fructose than glucose). In these individuals these fruits which are also frequently canned in apple or pear juice can cause bloating, gas, bowel spasms and sometimes D if there is enough excess fructose. You might remove these fruits including applesauce from your diet for two weeks and stick with citrus fruits and berries and see if this reduces some of the bloating and C. These fruits don't have excess fructose and they are a good source of fiber when eaten with a good soluble fiber base.

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Re: Constipation Is Worse Than Ever new
      #354143 - 01/06/10 07:39 PM
Little Minnie

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As for MOM or Miralax. I would do MOM once and see what happens. Up the SFS and wait. Then if one or two times using MOM and more SFS don't do it then try Miralax. A lot of people like Miralax. I haven't used it being I get D.

Heather's site does not say to never eat citrus or pineapple. It says those fruits have more IF than SF but if you eat them after a SF food like a banana or a mango they are very tolerable. Grapes, melons, apples and pears give people gas (including hub who doesn't have IBS). Citrus, tropical fruits, canned peaches are the easiest fruits to digest IMO. The easiest veggies IMO are cooked greens, peas, beans, asparagus, root veggies, squash. You need to eat fruits and veggies with IF in them, mixed with some SF foods. It is great for C!

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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Re: Constipation Is Worse Than Ever new
      #354287 - 01/08/10 03:00 PM
Naturapanic

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I was under the impression this was what I should eat for fruits:

Eat
Canned peaches/pears/fruit cocktail/NATURAL applesauce

Avoid
Pinneaple (even if canned)
Orange
Watermelon
Raw apple

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1) So basically in order to UP my fiber...what kinds of fruits can I eat?
-Canned peaches/pears/fruit cocktail/mango/papya
-Sliced honeydew or regular melons
-Strawberries/blueberries
-???????


Which ones to avoid?
-Are canned pinnapples safe?
-What about canned strawberry/blueberry in syrup with NO HFCS (just sugar and water...excellent dessert)

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Re: Constipation Is Worse Than Ever new
      #354295 - 01/08/10 03:19 PM
Naturapanic

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I mean, should I go and see a doctor about the constipation




If you have talked to a GI specialist about the constipation problem then you definitely should. Where you originally diagnosed with IBS by a GI doctor? Did a GI doctor prescribe the SIBO test and the antibiotics? What did that doctor have to say about your constipation?

Good luck




The GI doc did the diagnosis and prescribe the SIBO test and anti-biotics.

I am not trying to figure out the next move.
I have felt better the last two days.
This coincides with the 1 week anniversery of being off Align and being back on Jarrowphillus and having Oat Bran+Applesauce.
Coincidence?

I instantly felt an improvement when I had some gas released from my stomach.
I can see a direct tie between Trapped Gas and Bloating...the trapped gas caused this.

This has me very concerned about what to do next.
Among them, here are my questions.


1) Could Align have caused this?
2) Should I even take the rifaxmin....that would surely cancel out the jarrowophillus and I am afraid it might cause the same problem as the Align might have done?

3) I want to see a Dr. The Question, what's best for me. Should I see the GI Dr OR should I go a new approach and have it treated naturally?
-The GI Dr I see is no longer in network...it will cost me considerable more to see
-Here is a link to what I was considering
http://www.naturalhealthct.com/index.htm
Your thoughts?

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Re: Constipation Is Worse Than Ever new
      #354303 - 01/08/10 04:04 PM
Little Minnie

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There is no fruit you can't eat. They contain no red meat, fat or dairy. If you are fructose sensitive like Syl and others you have to avoid apples, pears, melons, grapes. But for anyone not very fructose intolerant you can eat any fruit as long as you eat the IF fruit after SF.

The SF fruits are:
bananas
mangos
papayas
canned peaches
applesauce

the fruits quite tolerable after SF are:
pineapple
any berries
peaches/nectarines
citrus fruit

the fruits that cause gas (I eat these in small amounts after SF but much less than the other fruits)
apples
pears
grapes
melons
grapes and melons are yummy but I find they are my touchiest fruits. as I said I eat less of them.

Another reminder to all:
the IF foods on the IF list insoluble fiber caution page are to be eaten with caution not avoided totally.
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Heather says: One glance will tell you these insoluble fiber foods are the best (and tastiest) around, but your colon simply can't handle it if you eat them with abandon. You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem.





People with C would have a lot better luck if they re-read this page as often as needed. I think it will help. Good luck!

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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Re: Constipation Is Worse Than Ever new
      #354320 - 01/09/10 05:15 AM
Syl

Reged: 03/13/05
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Loc: SK, CANADA

1) Could Align have caused this?

Possibly but unlikely. It could just be a coincidence. C is not a known side effect of Align.

2) Should I even take the rifaxmin....that would surely cancel out the jarrowophillus and I am afraid it might cause the same problem as the Align might have done?

Unfortunately, there is no way to tell until you take the antibiotics. Who knows you may be one of the IBSers that actually has SIBO.

3) I want to see a Dr. The Question, what's best for me. Should I see the GI Dr OR should I go a new approach and have it treated naturally?

Personally, I think every IBSers needs a good GP. A good GP usually knows a good GI doctor to recommend. A naturopath doctor can be used to provide alternative support if desired.

Oh - by the way - apparently bloating and distention are consider to be different things. Visceral hypersensitivity contributes to the sensation of bloating but not distention. Only 1/2 of individuals that experience bloating show a measurable amount of distention. Distention is more prevalent in IBS-C. The cause of both are poorly understood. Gut directed hypnotherapy is an effective way to control IBS bloating. Its effectiveness on abdominal distention has yet to be assessed. Have you tried gut directed hypnotherapy such as the CDs Heather sells?


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