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Sick and Tired of Being Bloated From Overeating
      #353468 - 12/26/09 01:14 PM
Naturapanic

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I am so tired of having a huge, inflated stomach that can't clear out.

I'd like to know what I can do about this, as it is incredibly frustrating.
The worst part is I do not know what to eat as snacks/sides.

The only thing this site says to do is have solubale fiber...but all that does is make you more hungray.

It would be helpful if there were things I could have with breakfast/lunch/and as snacks/before bed that would help quinch hunger and keep the metabolic going.

Having white bread just exaberates the need to eat again.
Any suggestions?

What can I have?

Breakfast:
-Instant Oatmeal
-______________?


Lunch:
-Snadwich
-Baked Chips


Dinner:
-All set


Meal Before Bed:
-Usual ceral (which again too much carbs)

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Re: Sick and Tired of Being Bloated From Overeating new
      #353469 - 12/26/09 01:28 PM
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What does the instant oatmeal contain besides oatmeal?
What cereals are you eating?
Are you taking a soluble fiber supplement?

You might change from white bread to sourdough. The only bread I eat is sourdough. You can have more protein snacks e.g. canned tuna or salmon, smoked oysters or mussels, or add some pure peanut butter to a slice of bread, etc.

Do you prepare your own meals or do purchase prepared foods?



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Re: Sick and Tired of Being Bloated From Overeating new
      #353470 - 12/26/09 01:45 PM
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The most frustrating thing is that I have no clue what to have as a snack, especially my after-dinner snack.

If I could eat yogurt or nuts, I would be fine.
I can't and I can not tolerate peanut butter.
So instead I end up having leftovers from dinner (which bloat me, as it is too filling) or one of Heather's safe cereals (which too leads to overeating and future hunger).

It would be nice if there was something to have as a snack BESIDES carbs which lead to being more hungray.

Any suggestions since I can't handle nuts or PB?

What is a good, safe, appetite supressing snack.
Appleasauce does not cut it...high Glycemic Index.
God I hate IBS...I wish we could have NUTS.

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Re: Sick and Tired of Being Bloated From Overeating new
      #353471 - 12/26/09 01:48 PM
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Quote:

What does the instant oatmeal contain besides oatmeal?

currently just awful oat bran and applesauce...but I want to...if safe...switch to instant oatmeal...is this kind safe?
http://www.quakeroats.com/products/oatmeal/instant-oatmeal/maple-and-brown-sugar.aspx

What cereals are you eating?
rice cearl...and that is a TERRIBLE evening snack due to carbs....I'd like to have a snack with less carbs

Are you taking a soluble fiber supplement?
Yes...3 tablespoons of Benefiber a day....enough?






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Re: Sick and Tired of Being Bloated From Overeating new
      #353474 - 12/26/09 02:42 PM
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The ingredients, under nutritional information, in the oatmeal link you post are as follows:

WHOLE GRAIN ROLLED OATS (WITH OAT BRAN), SUGAR, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS, SALT, CALCIUM CARBONATE, GUAR GUM, OAT FLOUR, CARAMEL COLOR, NIACINAMIDE*, VITAMIN A PALMITATE, REDUCED IRON, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE*, RIBOFLAVIN*, THIAMIN MONONITRATE*, FOLIC ACID*.

The bran has been added back in to increase the fiber and it contains natural and artificial flavorings. You want to avoid all cereal bran which included oat bran and artificial flavors. I believe the same thing is true of most Quaker instant oatmeal.

Have a look at regular and quick oatmeal. Notice they only contain rolled oats with no added bran. I use the regular but the quick look just as good.

Something I use as a snack are plain matzo - essentially they are very large cracker made from flour, salt and water. They are usually available in the Kosher section of the grocery store.

I presume you are using the plain Benefiber not the orange flavored. I would follow the instruction on the label but 3 tablespoons spread over a day sounds reasonable.

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Re: Sick and Tired of Being Bloated From Overeating new
      #353475 - 12/26/09 02:51 PM
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Yea - snacks are a real problem. I eat low carb during the day and leave high carbs for evening time when I want to snack. A few low fat potato chips, a motza with peanut butter and homemade rasberry jam and chocolate sauce a slice of homemade sourdough toast are my snacks

For years, I couldn't eat peanut butter. A couple of years afer I started serious dietary management I found I could handle a teaspoon or so of pure PB - no added fat or other additives - about once a day.

Can you snack on things like saltines and drained smoked osyters cut with lemon juice?

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Re: Sick and Tired of Being Bloated From Overeating new
      #353479 - 12/26/09 07:14 PM
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1) What is the problem with instant oatmeal? The regular and quick...it is too bland...I really am tired of bland breakfast.
Is it REALLY a problem...the instant v. quick?


2) So there really are no snack alternatives besides stuff loaded with carbs...nothing that could help quinch an appetitte or hunger while NOT adding a lot of calories?
The problem is....when you eat a meal...then have to eat more carbs...it continues to add calories...which makes you backed up and bloated.

So there is NOTHING besides high glycemic index food?

-What about Clemintines or dried fruit?
Hummus?

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Re: Sick and Tired of Being Bloated From Overeating new
      #353481 - 12/26/09 08:07 PM
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Instant oatmeal had added oat bran. Oat bran is a cereal bran. Cereal brans are known to promote bloating in IBS. Regular or quick oatmeal does not have added bran. It is not as likely to promote bloating. Flavor the regular or quick with fruit juice when you make it or add a sprinkle of sugar and a sliced banana.

Humus is fine if you can eat it. Fruit such as Clementines should be fine. Dried fruit can be high in excess fructose and sulfur dioxide.

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Re: Sick and Tired of Being Bloated From Overeating new
      #353482 - 12/26/09 08:16 PM
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Thanks.

I just went to the store.
Nature's Promise sells ORGANIC Instant Oatmeal...which is flavored.

1) It did not have any bran...in that instance...would it be safe?

2) What about this, would this be safe?
http://naturevalley.com/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductId=11

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Re: Sick and Tired of Being Bloated From Overeating new
      #353485 - 12/27/09 05:16 AM
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The NatureValley product contains "whole grain oats". Whole grain oats contain the bran. All whole grains contain the bran. It is the bran you want to stay away from. I think Nature's Promise organic maple oatmeal is made from whole grain rolled oats. The keywords are "whole grain". You want to stay away from products containing whole grains.

Note that whole grains are in Heather's insoluble fiber list.

Stick with 'rolled oats' not 'whole grain oats' or 'whole grain rolled oats' because they still contain the bran.

If you want maple flavor oatmeal buy the Quaker regular or quick and add some maple syrup before you eat it

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Re: Sick and Tired of Being Bloated From Overeating new
      #353491 - 12/27/09 09:30 AM
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hi there am not that good at giving advice but what if you get lots fruit in there and have berries and not baked chips and have fruit and a soya yogurt before bed not cereal i hope you get well soon

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Re: Sick and Tired of Being Bloated From Overeating new
      #353505 - 12/27/09 09:11 PM
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Quote:

The NatureValley product contains "whole grain oats". Whole grain oats contain the bran. All whole grains contain the bran. It is the bran you want to stay away from. I think Nature's Promise organic maple oatmeal is made from whole grain rolled oats. The keywords are "whole grain". You want to stay away from products containing whole grains.

Note that whole grains are in Heather's insoluble fiber list.

Stick with 'rolled oats' not 'whole grain oats' or 'whole grain rolled oats' because they still contain the bran.

If you want maple flavor oatmeal buy the Quaker regular or quick and add some maple syrup before you eat it



1) How long does it take to cook "Quick Oats?"
2) Do they make ANY safe quick oats that are already flavored...it really makes it unreasonable to follow a diet that is so bland...especially when IBS is good and bad at the same time.

3) Are there ANY good safe snacks that are not "white bread" ish....I thought those bars would be good since they can repell an appetitte?

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Re: Sick and Tired of Being Bloated From Overeating new
      #353507 - 12/28/09 04:23 AM
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The cooking instructions are in Quaker's FAQ -- select the Oatmeal tab and look under the question "What are the preparation instructions for Standard Quaker® Oats and Instant Quaker® Oatmeal?"

Many commercial prepared food use artificial flavors. Add flavor yourself. For example, add a couple of tablespoons of concentrated fruit juice to the water when you make the oatmeal, sprinkle on some cinnanom when cooking, add a some maple syrup before eating. Be creative add flavors you enjoy. It will be cheaper and healthier.

Fruit is always a good snack. What sort of none white bread snacks did you eat before you got IBS?

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Re: Sick and Tired of Being Bloated From Overeating new
      #353543 - 12/28/09 05:58 PM
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1) Well this morning I had the Quacker Quick Oats you mentioned.
I had a half cup of them with Aguave Sweetner.
Terrible bloating...felt backed up.

It did taste better than Oat Bran and Applesauce though.
I don't get it...I thought a half cup of Quacker Quick Oats for breakfast was safe?
What gives?


2)
Quote:

The NatureValley product contains "whole grain oats". Whole grain oats contain the bran. All whole grains contain the bran. It is the bran you want to stay away from. I think Nature's Promise organic maple oatmeal is made from whole grain rolled oats. The keywords are "whole grain". You want to stay away from products containing whole grains.

Note that whole grains are in Heather's insoluble fiber list.

Stick with 'rolled oats' not 'whole grain oats' or 'whole grain rolled oats' because they still contain the bran.






What is the difference...how are Quick Oats NOT whole grain?
It states:

100% NATURAL WHOLE GRAIN QUAKER QUALITY ROLLED OATS???????


3) If the Nature's Promise is Organic...wouldn't it be safe as so long as it had whole grain rolled oats?
-Why do the artifical flavors matter?

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Treat Agave syrup with caution new
      #353547 - 12/28/09 06:41 PM
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Agave syrup has more fructose than high fructose corn syrup or honey. It contains from 70%-90% fructose. One teaspoon of Agave nectar contains about 5-7 grams of excess fructose. IBS suffers should treat Agave nectar with extreme caution. It can cause GI problems for non-IBSers too.



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Re: Treat Agave syrup with caution new
      #353554 - 12/28/09 10:32 PM
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Thanks.
In that case:

1) What is the best sweetner for Quick Oats?
2) Is there any reason as to why (besides the Agave) that I was so bloated and backed up?
-Do I need to have some SF before the Quick Oats, or do the Quick Oats have enough SF?

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Re: Treat Agave syrup with caution new
      #353555 - 12/29/09 04:11 AM
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1) Brown or white sugar, maple syrup or molasses (if fructose isn't a problem for you) and stevia (make sure it has no additives like FOS or inulin). Berries and fruit are a good source of sweetness too. I have brown sugar and sliced banana on my oatmeal.

2) Other than the Agave I don't know. And it is difficult to tell by eating something just once if it was causing problems.

3) Quick oats contains about equal amount of soluble and insoluble fiber. There is no need to add additional SF to it. This is one of benefits of oatmeal. And oatmeal also contains beta-glucans which act like a soluble fiber.

Naturapanic - are you IBS-C, IBS-D or IBS-A? It is helpful to put this information in your signature. Also, have you read Heather's books on IBS?

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Re: Treat Agave syrup with caution new
      #353615 - 12/30/09 03:39 PM
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IBS-C and B.
Read both books.

I have felt better the past few days since I switched OFF align and back to jarrowdophillus.

1) If instant oatmeal does not contain bran...is it ok?

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Re: Treat Agave syrup with caution new
      #353637 - 12/31/09 04:03 AM
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Yes - if it doesn't contain added bran, FOS, inulin or artificial flavoring it should be fine. Check the label.

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