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Re: How does all this research help us through our daily lives with IBS? new
      #352255 - 11/16/09 04:56 PM
frygurl

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Shawneric, I appreciate your knowledge base, and I know you provide important information to educate those who don't know anything about IBS. However, I find the constant bombardment of articles and studies overwhelming and frankly anxiety provoking. I have read quite a few posts from you (many redundant, but I understand why) and others on the board that are science minded, so I feel that I have a reasonable understanding about the current western medical thinking about IBS.

I just don't take it as the gospel truth. Doctors are wrong all the time.

If I see one more piece of literature from a doctor or dietitian or other medical professional that tells me to eat more high fiber foods such as broccoli and beans, I'm going to lose it. Those foods make me feel absolutely miserable, among many other "healthy" ones.

The bottom line for me is that I believe there is more involved with our health than the physiological components and furthermore don't think western medicine has all the answers, especially when it comes to a chronic illness such as this. I speak for myself and I think a few others on this board in saying that we hear you, but respectfully request to have discussions about alternative viewpoints without being bombarded with research studies and statistics.


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Re: butting in... new
      #352256 - 11/16/09 04:57 PM
Little Minnie

Reged: 04/16/04
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All right I could say that there is no allowance for any 'private' threads on a public forum. There are facebook and live chatting for that.

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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Re: How does all this research help us through our daily lives with IBS? new
      #352257 - 11/16/09 05:01 PM
Little Minnie

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Loc: Minnesota

When you get down to what I truly believe when it comes to medicine and IBS it is this: I only care what science says when it can reaffirm or explain something that is already working or makes sense to me (same with religion and science for that matter). Some things are so obvious after awhile with IBS that if medicine disagrees with them I don't need it, but when it backs up things like the recent acknowledgment that soluble fiber is better for IBS than insoluble, well that is science I can use!

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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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For Shawneric new
      #352259 - 11/16/09 05:09 PM
Windchimes

Reged: 09/05/09
Posts: 581
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Wouldn't it be best to simply respond with something like "Perhaps this link might be of interest to you"??? rather than filling pages of information into the actual technical information about the whys of the problem in another's post?

Some people simply need some sympathy and a place to start feeling better with some basic information about overcoming symptoms. People like myself don't need lectures, just common sense as to the tried and true ways to get back on track and stay there with simple dietary and lifestyle changes.

I admit that I am female and 'right-brained', meaning I have to go through a process of communication and sorting out that 'left-brained' others who want to delve into how my problem came to be. This doesn't matter to me at this point, I'm only seeking relief from some very painful symptoms in the present which relate to simply eating healthy and nutritious foods to sustain my life force and go from there.

I've asked you not to respond to my posts, and I would very much appreciate it if you would respect that. Lack of respect causes stress, and can also be a trigger for IBS. I know, as I've had a lifetime of this and now am learning to choose my friends and to whom I listen to at appropriate times.

I'm sorry and apologize if this wound's your ego, yet I DO have to take care of myself in practical ways and ways that work for me. I'm not responsible for anyone else's feelings. Feelings are not facts.



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Re: butting in... new
      #352260 - 11/16/09 05:12 PM
Gerikat

Reged: 06/21/09
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Yep, you are right about that. However, many of us know each other fairly well and where we are coming from, so I think it would be polite to acknowledge that before responding to someone.

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Thanks Littleminnie! nt new
      #352261 - 11/16/09 05:13 PM
Windchimes

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Re: For Shawneric new
      #352262 - 11/16/09 05:21 PM
Gerikat

Reged: 06/21/09
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Windchimes, Heather just addressed this issue. Since, block or direct message doesn't work, and as Minnie pointed out, it is a public forum, just don't open the post when you see who the poster is. I know it's hard, but it will resolve the problem and all of the tension created.

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Re: How does all this research help us through our daily lives with IBS? new
      #352263 - 11/16/09 05:23 PM
Gerikat

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OMG ditto well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Looks like I opened up a can of worms! new
      #352265 - 11/16/09 05:28 PM
Windchimes

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Well I may have unintentionally opened up a can of worms. However Littleminnie would appreciate the value of worms in the garden. Perhaps this 'garden' needs some weeding and a few more worms tilling the soil and making it more fertile for that which grows and thrives out of it.

I've forever been a natural born encourager and healer to others, though I no longer accept lack of respect. It took me a long time to get where I am today. Even so, I need the help of others with this IBS thing. I'm not God. I alone do not have the answers and am learning what works for me through others here.

Thanks to all who have inputed some reasonable and practical ideas, and provided some humor along the way too. Again, laughter is a great stress reducer and that's a good thing for IBS sufferers!

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Senior female, IBS-D, presently stable thanks to Heather & Staff

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Re: Looks like I opened up a can of worms! new
      #352266 - 11/16/09 05:32 PM
Gerikat

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You know, that is funny! I have seen this happen before. Sometimes the most innocent question or reply will spark a serious debate. You crack me up, Windchimes. I bet your IBS improves before the scientifically minded. lol

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