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Re: No Rhyme or Reason-- Several Questions-- Doesn't seem like food is trigger! new
      #349383 - 08/24/09 01:00 PM
Borrelli

Reged: 03/22/09
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Penney, for some of us diet simply is not the cause of our ills. I too have been sick since the end of september 08 for every single day. I have tried every diet possible and every type of natural, herbal, fiber supplement out there. Yes, maybe a diet of only soluble fiber will help slightly but for myself it doesn't help enough for me to want to stay on it (it is truly an awefull diet). For some of us it simply comes down to it being a functional disorder that no type of diet can cure. I know this is not what you want to here but i was completely stable last year before sept. 08, eating whatever types of food i please and then all of a sudden out of the blue with no particular reason i was hit again with these symptoms.

If you haven't tried all of these natural methods like the SF diet and probiotics, etc. I suggest you do so to see if it will possibly cure you (it does for some). You should also try going Gluten free for a month to see if that has any effect. Its all about trial and error. Some people can eliminate one type of food thats bothering them and presto! there cured. For the rest of us we can try and try and try and nothing seems to work.

Hope you find out what it is thats causing your symptoms and how to treat it. Good Luck.

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what triggers are and how IBS works new
      #349396 - 08/24/09 06:14 PM
Little Minnie

Reged: 04/16/04
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Loc: Minnesota

Remember IBS is not about food allergies. It is not a case of eating a speck of a certain food and getting a chemical reaction in the body (like peanut allergy people for instance). IBS is about the gut being healthy and choosing to react badly when it wants to do so. That is the reason why there seems to be no rhyme or reason to symptoms.
The whole idea behind triggers or foods that are 'unsafe' is to give the gut the best possible chance of not reacting badly. We avoid the most commonly irritating foods and hope the gut will not throw a fuss anyway. Then add stress and other factors (like not 'going' when the urge hits, or sitting all day or eating too fast, etc) and you can never really control how your gut will react.
Your whole purpose, especially now, is to eat the easiest foods and try to handle the gut stress as best you can. The only option we have since we aren't dealing with food allergies is to 1) avoid the foods other people have issues with and are known to be difficult to digest and 2) keep a journal and try to figure out what the body is telling you.

Most people are too into what 'their' triggers are before they can really know what 'their' gut is telling them. By trusting Heather's trigger list and what stable IBS folk say should be avoided, you are doing the best case scenario kind of thing. Even if you don't seem to have issues with something dangerous, it is still best to avoid it to be safe. Later you can occasionally have it and see how you do. It is amazing how your real difficult foods will come to light after a while and foods that aren't that bad for you can be eaten now and again. I can drink root beer or juice or have HFCS food from time to time without incident. I cannot handle a greasy meal no matter what though. I still avoid the foods known to be bad but that I am pretty ok with, so that I give myself the best chance I can.

One last thing, besides avoiding triggers, there is a lot to eating the right foods too! Getting enough fiber from fruits and veggies and safer grains is crucial for C. Making sure to have a decent amount of fat and liquids is also imperative. Stay far away from red meat and dairy, both are highly constipating.

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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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one more thing new
      #349498 - 08/26/09 05:05 PM
Little Minnie

Reged: 04/16/04
Posts: 4987
Loc: Minnesota

IBS-C IMO is the most difficult to stabilize. Many people have 'altered motility' from use of laxatives and harsh stimulants and harsh IF for many years. Being only able to poo after coffee, prunes and laxatives, the gut stops working on its own and needs a stimulant to poo every time. This is a bugger to cure!
When someone like this has a fatty meal or some other trigger they may have a poo reaction and initially feel better but the backlash is the gut being more dead and needing more stimulants because the insuing spasms lock everything up.
So in searching for answers and for personal best diet choices, it is important to remember what the long-term effect is of everything ingested. There are immediate and delayed reactions in IBS. The delayed reactions are really hard to decipher but having a trigger that causes a poo only to afterward irritate everything into locking up and needing that stimulant again- that is a house of cards.

IBS-C ers have to have a lot of patience to get through the worse times. It is still essential that they always buffer their IF with SF just like D-ers. They need more liquids, fiber and exercise. They also may handle and need a little more IF and fat than D-ers. It is important to remember the *same* spasms and reactions in the gut can cause C or D or gas or pain. The same soluble fiber can alleviate and soothe all the reactions.

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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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