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Align or Acacia?
      #344008 - 04/03/09 11:56 AM
Scott G

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Hi,

I've been on Align for almost two weeks and Acacia for about a week. I've really seen an improvement in my symptoms, and I think it's largely due to the Acacia. But how do I know if it's that or the Align? I guess I can take both of these supplements for the rest of my life, but I'm less inclined to take the Align forever because of its expense. All of these supplements (Acacia, Align, etc.) can start to build up in price.

What do you suggest? Is the Align worth taking indefinitely? How do I know if it's working or if it's the Acacia?

And, I drink Peppermint tea all the time and it's not particularly effective at stomping my ab pain and spasms. Will the Peppermint capsules be any more effective? I haven't bought them yet, but am considering it.

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Re: Align or Acacia? new
      #344019 - 04/03/09 06:23 PM
osbo54

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Hi Scott,

I take Align, but I do not take the Acacia. I agree, the Align is expensive. It is a shame to take it, if you really don't need it, or if it is not helping you. However, it is recommended to take some kind of probiotic.

I guess the only way you will know which is helping you, is to take them one at a time for a period of time. Why don't you stay with the Acacia at first, if that is more affordable for you. The Acacia may be all that you need. If it doesn't do the trick, then maybe you could add the Align, and see if you feel better.

It really is hard to say, unless you take them one at a time.

Since I don't have abd pain or spasms with my IBS, I really cannot speak to the Peppermint caps. But, from what I have read on this board, they are great.

HTH
Lynn

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Re: Align or Acacia? new
      #344035 - 04/04/09 09:31 AM
Little Minnie

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I believe this: keep taking acacia forever and stop Align after awhile since you will have built up the good flora. With acacia and a good diet and no antibiotics the good flora will remain without a probiotic (or switch to Silk yogurt for maintenance.)

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Re: Align or Acacia? new
      #344036 - 04/04/09 10:59 AM
Syl

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There are a couple of ways of answering your question.

It is possible to get all of the soluble fiber you need from your diet without taking a soluble fiber supplement. I don't take any soluble fiber supplements and find I can get all of the soluble fiber I need from my diet. However, Heather's acacia is an inexpensive soluble fiber supplement compared with some other brands.

Unfortunately, you have to keep taking a probiotic in order to keep the new flora maintained. So if you quit taking Align you quickly lose the benefits of the probiotic. Align is expensive primarily because it has been tested in large IBS clinical trials. There are alternative Bifidobacterium infantis sources such as Natren Life Start and a NSI product. Like Align both of these contain dairy products and the variety of the Bifidobacterium infantis is different which likely doesn't matter. On the other hand, you could use 2 or 3 Align capsules as a starter to make homemade milk or soy yogurt. It should grow well on milk but I am not sure how well it will grow on soy milk.

Enteric coated peppermint capsules taken regularly on an empty stomach as a prophylactic for IBS pain is much better than peppermint tea. The capsule releases the peppermint in the colon and where it acts as an antispasmodic. The effectiveness of enteric coated peppermint capsules is well researched and it has been shown to be more effective than many expensive pharmaceuticals.

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Re: Align or Acacia? new
      #344054 - 04/05/09 08:18 AM
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You have to keep taking Align in order to keep the Bifidobacterium infantis bacteria in the gut flora at an optimum and therapeutic level. If you don't then the bacteria will die off and the therapeutic effects of the Bifidobacterium infantis will decline. Unfortunately Silk yogurt does not contain probiotics that have been clinically tested on IBS.

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Re: Align or Acacia? new
      #344062 - 04/05/09 04:11 PM
osbo54

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That's what I thought too, Syl...that you had to take the probiotic, like Align, on a daily basis. At least, that is what I have read and have been doing. After I saw Minnie's post, then I wasn't sure, so maybe I will do some research to be sure, unless you have that info already. Thanx

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not necessarily new
      #344065 - 04/05/09 05:25 PM
Little Minnie

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If you are taking a probiotic to get your gut back where it should be after finding your flora was low or after taking anitbiotics or after having a lot of D, I don't see any reason why you would have to do it forever. In my opinion taking a prebiotic fiber and eating a good diet should help sustain a healthy flora tract. Once the flora numbers are where they should be the probiotic could be stopped.

A SFS on the other hand, is something that needs to be taken everyday forever.

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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Re: not necessarily new
      #344070 - 04/05/09 05:55 PM
osbo54

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Sorry, you will have to argue this one with Syl. I was asking him, because I do not know.

I don't take any SFS, so I can't speak to that.

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Re: not necessarily new
      #344072 - 04/05/09 06:49 PM
Syl

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Here is a quote from the FAQ on the Align web site.

Do I need to take Align forever?
It is important to continually replenish essential Bifantis bacteria to maintain your digestive balance. Because no probiotic can permanently change your digestive environment, you need to continue taking Align to continue to maintain a stronger, healthier digestive system. Taking Align is a healthy practice to get into for life for an ongoing defense against digestive episodes that interfere with your plans.

The research on the use of this probiotic for IBS indicates it has to be taken regularly.

Taking a probiotic for IBS is not necessarily synonymous with taking a probiotic to re-establish a normal level of that particular bacteria in the gut flora. In some instances you may wish to maintain the amount of a certain bacteria above the normal gut flora level because the bacteria has a beneficial property such as playing an anti-inflammatory role. Bifidobacterium infantis appears to play an anti-inflammatoru role in the bowel. Probiotics can play a variety of therapeutic roles and not simply replenish an unbalanced population in the gut flora. In order to maintain this effect these probiotics have to be taken regularly.

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Re: Align or Acacia? new
      #344078 - 04/06/09 08:28 AM
Scott G

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Thanks all for responding to my questions!

If the Align is proven to be effective, then I guess I'll take it indefinitely. My good health is worth $20/month.

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