Set Back
#339106 - 12/09/08 08:23 AM
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ericai
Reged: 11/09/08
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Loc: Nassau County, NY
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Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to write about my setback that I'm really sad about. Sat. night I woke up in such pain and had really bad D from 330 to 7. I was ok on Sunday and Monday but again last night I woke up with a lot of pain and D (at the same times as Sat. night coincidentally).
I'm not sure if it's what i ate or if it's a bug. I haven't eaten that out of the ordinary (I've been trying really hard to stick with the SF diet and haven't really strayed).
So I'm feeling really crappy today (physically and mentally). I'm exhausted and feel very on edge...tingly everywhere.
Coincidentally or not I started ovulating Sunday so I wonder if there's a connection (I saw previous posts on it) and just never paid attention to my IBS and cycle.
Thanks for the outlet! I'm very grateful to have people who just understand.  I got the "it's all in your head" from my husband this morning and I wanted to rip his head off!
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Erica
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Sorry you are having such a rough time. It could be caused by any of the things you mentioned. What did you eat 48 hrs prior? Are you drinking fluids to replace what you are losing? Hope you feel better.
Karen
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Have you kept a log of what you eat and what happens within 6-8 hours of eating?
I'm a fellow Nassau County resident, and I started with a new GI guy (in Mineola) and he suggested I keep such a log. I was amazed to see certain "cycles" (salmon and lettuce made it partucularly bad for me).
If you're getting the diarrhea at about the same time (3:30 in the morning) it MAY be a delayed reaction to dinner or a late night snack. Was there anything in common on those nights that you had the diarrhea?
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Saul (IBS - D)
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Re: Set Back
#339158 - 12/10/08 10:51 AM
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Kappy
Reged: 10/09/08
Posts: 852
Loc: Mississippi
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It could definitely be your period along with IBS. Before I changed birth controls, I woke up every time, without fail, at 2:45 a.m. on Saturday morning and had D and vomiting. That morning, when I got up, I had started my period. I changed birth control and now I don't get sick like that anymore. It was an awful feeling though when it did happen! This may be your case too, but then again, it could be something else. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the posts 
So here's what I ate before hand:
Thursday night and Friday lunch and dinner: baked chicken breast, pasta with mixed well cooked veggies (onion, zucchini, broccoli). Breakfast was a bowl of puffins with rice milk. Snacks: rice cakes and graham crackers.
Saturday:
breakfast: Barbara's shredded oats and shredded squares in rice milk
snacked on rice cakes, dry shredded oats and shredded squares cereal and baked lays...all day (one rice cake had some peanut butter and chocolate chips )
slice of pumpkin bread
Lunch: same pasta with veggies
Dinner: had two soluble fiber supplements before dinner. Baked filet of sole. Bread dipped in balsamic. Veggie salad that had tomato, cucumber, peppers (I mostly ate the tomatos).
Snacked on Graham crackers after.
Before bed: peppermint tea and then within 10 min I had my regular soluble fiber of citrucel.
I think it was dinner or maybe too much fiber. I looked at the ingredients on the Barbara's cereal's and they look ok. But then I look at how much fiber is in it and it says the majority of fiber is IF. So it's either the IF or maybe the balsamic?
I didn't eat anything that was the same Tuesday night. But I don't think my system was ready for a mix of foods: I had, from Whole foods, chicken soup, barley salad, some grilled veggies and a few bites of mustard chicken.
I think mustard chicken might have done me in...it was pretty creamy. Who knows.
I started a diary but keep forgetting to fill it in. I'm going to try to be more consistent now.
Thanks again!
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Erica
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Yeah, it sounds like there's a bunch of IF in there that could have messed you up. I love salads but alot of IF and tomatoes too. Try with some shredded carrots more carrots than tomatoes next time. Or eat a baked sweet potato with your meal. I love the sweet potatoes! I keep them at the house for a quick high SF meal. Pop in microwave for a few minutes. they are good plain or with a touch of honey and brown sugar! Hope this helps! Hope you get to feeling better too.
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I'm married and it's so wonderful!
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Oil, chocolate, and nut butters are high in fat and on the danger list: http://www.helpforibs.com/diet/trigger2.asp
Onions and broccoli are sulfur producing foods that cause a lot of gas and are on the caution list: http://www.helpforibs.com/diet/fiber2.asp
Safe foods to eat when you cannot eat anything:
http://www.helpforibs.com/diet/what_to_eat.asp
It really varies what people can tolerate; sometimes it is trial and error. I would have been sick too; I cannot handle oatmeal, salad, or oils right now.
Hope you are feeling better.
Karen
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Thanks for the links!
I don't have D anymore , but I still have the normal nausea and on edge feeling (that hasn't seemed to go away for me over the past month of being on the SF diet).
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Erica
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Just a personal question - you aren't pregnant are you? That sounds like morning sickness and irritability associated with pregnancy..
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I have the constant nausea and on-edge feeling all of the time too. I'm mostly C with a few bouts of D here and there.
In my case it's mostly anxiety related. My doctor recently put me on a low dose of fluoxetine (generic Prozac) and I swear it's like I've been given a whole new digestive system!
Just a thought - not calling you a basket case or anything 
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Fen,
Your "whole new digestive system"...is this a good or a bad thing??? Do you think the low dose of fluoxentine is helping at all? In the past I have tried a low dose of Lexapro and Zoloft and was worse off with each. I know lots of people have success with ADs. I just can't seem to find anything or do anything that keeps me stable very long. I don't have the constant nausea but I do know the on-edge feeling. I believe that feeling comes from the anxiety caused by the IBS. I must say, when I'm lucky enough to get several good days in a row that feeling starts to subside.
Quoting you from another post "I would literally pay any amount of money if someone could just diagnose me!" You don't know how many times I have said this same exact thing to my husband. And that would be on top of all of the $$$$ we have spent to date!!!
Take care and I hope your move is going well.
Sharon
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My friend started Prozac about 2 weeks ago and is a brand new person!!! I wish I knew if it would work for me... Like you, mine is anxiety and any AD's I've taken in the past have caused the anxiety to increase. If I knew Prozac would work, I'd be on it like "white on rice"!
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I've tried Zoloft in the past (for something else entirely) and felt like garbage the whole time I was on it. Last year I tried Lexapro for my IBS and it didn't do much for my stomach, though it did help me get through the stress of a move and planning my wedding.
I've been on the Prozac for one week now. And I literally feel like I have a new digestive system. And that's a good thing. I'm going to the bathroom regularly - big, soft, well formed stools. Sometimes more than once a day! With no cramping! As a result my bloating is much better (though not completely gone). And I've been eating beans or lentils every day! I even ate a salad one day! I haven't been daring enough yet to try dairy or potato chips, but maybe soon!
I'm not saying it's the answer for everybody, but it has definitely helped my digestion. It has not helped my insomnia, which is most likely also the result of stress/anxiety, so maybe I need a higher dose. I'm taking 10 mg/day now.
Sharond, thanks for the kind thoughts! Today is my last day of work, so that should help cut down on some of my stress! My plan for next week is to relax and catch up on some much needed sleep, then enjoy the holidays with my family. We'll be packing and moving in early January.
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I'm so happy something is working for you Fen. "Garbage"..that's exactly how I felt on Zoloft and Lexapro so that kind of turned me off to all ADs. I was also sick of trying stuff and feeling even worse. I totally relate to the insomnia and I know it's all anxiety driven. I can be doing fine for weeks on end and then I have a bad bout. To get me through those times I usually take an anti-anxiety med (klonopin) to relax me at night. This really helps me to get through a bad bout. I have a really bad habit though; to fall asleep I have to be sitting in my big comfy chair, under a cozy quilt, watching TV. There's a big "DO NOT DISTURB" sign on my forehead!!! When I wake up, I'll crawl into bed.
Best of luck to you on your move. Don't think of it as stressful...think of it as an adventure!!
Happy Holidays.
Sharon
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I am sure it's anxiety related also. I get it pretty bad as I'm leaving for work. I know I'm stressed for the commute to work. Once I get to work I usually feel a little better.
But I also get it randomly throughout the day. Maybe it's my fear of not being able to leave the classroom, which i stress about before classes, but forget about during class (subconciously popping up).
I have a prescription of librax that I haven't tried yet...I'm also very anxious about any side affects and if it will give me an attack. (also have a prescription of antibiotics to kill the bad bacteria that I haven't tried yet).
I really have a problem with the "what if I have an attack".
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Erica
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I really have a problem with the "what if I have an attack".
That's my major cause of anxiety (which only makes the IBS worse).
I went back to work Thursday night after a long absence due to IBS. Everything went fine. I was so "up" about it when I got home. Last night, as I was driving to work, I had a sudden "attack" and had to turn around and come back home. I'm only thankful that nobody saw me.
The emabarrassment is terribly difficult for me to deal with. I'm at the stage where I'm considering wearing Depends. 
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Saul (IBS - D)
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OMG, I've considered depends also!!
I'm 32 and I keep thinking I'm too young to have these thoughts.
I've never had an accident, I've been able to reach the bathroom in time OR I've considered stopping at the side of the road if I had to. I always have toilet paper and bags in the car (just in case), luckily I haven't had to use them yet.
But depends has crossed my mind!
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Erica
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Me three!!! But, if it eases the stress level then go for it.
Think about it like this: if you suffer from diabetes-you carry your insulin, if you have migraines- you always have your migraine medicine, if you have a broken leg- you have your cast and crutches, if you suffer back pain- you may carry a brace or heat pack...... I could go on and on. We, that have IBS, have just as serious a condition as others and we need to do what we must to have as normal a life as possible.
I know it is hard not to feel embarrassed by Depends, but if they are necessary for your condition, then you should have them. There is such a stigma attached to this product. And, really that is all that it is...a product.
If it gives you peace of mind then do it. After all, who the heck is going to know but you. When you get to where you are going you can take them off. Erica, just think of it as a product and don't associate it with the elderly and sickness.
And Runs, I am so sorry that you just made it back to work and then had this happen. Do you think it is job related, if you were OK when you were off?
Be well
Lynn
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Thanks, Lynn!
I had mostly bad days when I was off from work... I was stressed that I'd be losing my job (because of the amount of time I took off). I REALLY don't know what set me off last night as I was driving to the job. (I don't think it was anxiety about work).
Oddly enough, I brought up the idea of wearing Depends to my GI doctor two months ago. He very quickly, and emphatically replied, "NO!". I asked him why and he explained that wearing them would have a bad psychological effect on me. I thought about his response and I eventually agreed with it. Now, I'm not sure he is right.
When I get diarrhea, it usually lasts for a few hours and if I don't eat anything afterwards I'm OK. The "anticipation" (or more precisely, the anxiety) of it happening is worse than the actual attack.
Your reasoning (about wearing Depends) is sound... I suppose it would lessen my anxiety about being away from a toilet.
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I have a prescription of librax that I haven't tried yet...I'm also very anxious about any side affects and if it will give me an attack.
I really have a problem with the "what if I have an attack".
Thanks for your thoughts, Erica.
I didn't know what librax was until I just looked it up online. I see that it contains lactose and since I'm lactose intolerant I suspect it wouldn't be good for me.
I've been prescribed Xanax (0.5 MG) and that works pretty well in calmimg me down. It unfortunately also makes me somewhat drowsy so I don't want to drive while I'm taking it.
Emotionally, it is quite beneficial for me to read that others here have the same anxieties as I, so thanks for sharing your story.
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Saul (IBS - D)
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Oh, I see about the Depends. If it puts you in the wrong frame of mind...I can understand that. It was just a thought, ya know. These docs don't deal with what we do on a daily basis.
Hope your job is secure.
Lynn
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Oh, I see about the Depends. If it puts you in the wrong frame of mind...I can understand that. It was just a thought, ya know. These docs don't deal with what we do on a daily basis.
Thanks, Lynn.
I was sure someone from these boards would understand my hesitation.
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Saul (IBS - D)
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