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Re: wendy and carolyn new
      #326865 - 03/20/08 06:28 AM
Wendy1234

Reged: 02/06/08
Posts: 98


I am having a hard time being C. I alternate back and forth. I really only eat white bread a couple of times a week, same with white rice. I've started keeping a food log to see what things make me sick. But, if I eat too much white rice, I actually get bloated. I just know the big thing now is whole wheat whole wheat whole wheat. I used to eat that and it would take me days to not feel bloated and crampy. I'm much rather a white slice of bread.

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Re: wendy and carolyn new
      #326866 - 03/20/08 07:33 AM
renee21

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Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Wendy, could it be that the problem is the wheat itself? I find any kind of wheat - white or whole - makes me bloated. So now I eat breads made out of brown rice flour, quinoa, millet, rye or oats. And I find white rice pretty constipating, so I rarely eat it.

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Re: wendy and carolyn - renee new
      #326872 - 03/20/08 07:53 AM
Wendy1234

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What brand do you use? I think the rice is constipating also. I just want to get some kind of nutrition. I can't eat hardly any fruits without becoming bloated/nauseated. So I always figure at least the rice has some nutrition.

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Re: wendy and carolyn new
      #326878 - 03/20/08 08:41 AM
Jordy

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Do you make these breads yourself? The only non-wheat breads I can find at HFS are all made of rice.

The brown rice breads don't cause you C?

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Re: wendy and carolyn new
      #326884 - 03/20/08 08:59 AM
renee21

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I'm lucky, there are lot of non-wheat alternatives where I live. I mostly buy my bread from a local place called Little Stream Bakery which distributes to many health food stores in and around Toronto.

I am not sure if brown rice bread is constipating. I haven't been able to figure that one out yet. I don't eat a ton of bread anyway - 1 small slice a day. I also eat brown rice tortillas (Food for Life) and brown rice pasta (Tinkyada), and of course brown rice itself (brown basmati), but I try to eat only one brown rice product per day.

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Re: wendy and carolyn new
      #326891 - 03/20/08 10:12 AM
Jordy

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I'm lucky, there are lot of non-wheat alternatives where I live




How great is that!

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Re: My Doctor Freaked Out! new
      #326902 - 03/20/08 11:57 AM
CarolynC

Reged: 03/11/08
Posts: 108
Loc: Connecticut

I am so amazed at how much better I am starting to feel!!!! It's like having my life come back to me.
I've only been taking Acacia for a few weeks, and still at a fairly low dose, but the difference feels so wonderful.
I can honestly feel my gut evening out and much less gas and bloat than before.

I've been using the recipies and follwing the guidelines for eating. All of it seems to help.

How long for you???? and how do you feel?

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Re: wendy and carolyn new
      #326909 - 03/20/08 12:26 PM
CarolynC

Reged: 03/11/08
Posts: 108
Loc: Connecticut

It might cause problems if that's all I ate. I just take it easy with the white bread (I either bake it myself, or buy a fresh loaf at the market) and I DO eat wheat bread too...... just not on an empty stomach.
I'm still new at all of this, but I DO find taking the Acacia Fiber helps a whole lot!

After my Doctor read the part about "white bread" on the cheat sheet, she completley turned her mind off to any positive things I had to say about "Eating for IBS".

I'll keep working on her....so that perhaps eventually she will understand the concept and tell her other patients with IBS problems.


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Re: wendy and carolyn new
      #326920 - 03/20/08 01:18 PM
Syl

Reged: 03/13/05
Posts: 5499
Loc: SK, CANADA

You might refer you doctor to the research paper referenced below which was mentioned in one of Heather's newsletters and the abstract is in the research library. There is an email address at the end of the abstract that you can use to ask for a pdf copy of the article so you take it to your doc.

This article is a review of 17 research studies on fiber and IBS. It concludes

Quote:

The role of fibre in the pathophysiology of irritable bowel syndrome remains poorly understood. An increase in the amount of dietary fibre is an almost universal recommendation in the primary care management of irritable bowel syndrome, and guidelines on irritable bowel syndrome management for out-clinic patients advise an increase in fibre intake in the event of constipation. However, our review showed only limited support for this recommendation.

In summary, our systematic review demonstrates the effectiveness of fibre therapy in irritable bowel syndrome patients, but only in terms of either global symptom improvement or constipation. The effectiveness on individual symptoms is variable. There is no effect of fibre in irritable bowel syndrome-related abdominal pain. Soluble and insoluble fibre have different effects on global irritable bowel syndrome symptoms. Insoluble fibre is probably no better than placebo and may, in some patients, even worsen the clinical outcome. For the development of evidence-based management guidelines, valid clinical studies in primary care patients, focusing on the effectiveness and tolerability of soluble and insoluble fibre, are needed.




While this review article does not directly address the role of white bread (or sourdough bread) it does specifically state that IF may worsen IBS symptoms while SF likely doesn't.

Reference
Bijkerk, C. J., J. W. M. Muris, J. A. Knottnerus, A. W. Hoes, and N. J. De Wit, 2004: Systematic review: the role of different types of fibre in the treatment of irritable bowel syndrome. Alimentary Pharmacology & Therapeutics, 19, 245-251.

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