What triggered me?
#309840 - 06/25/07 07:33 PM
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Having some bad intestinal issues tonight, and I think it may have been something in my dinner. I have been having problems for the past few days, but it got worse tonight, about an hour after eating.
For dinner I had some tuna patties I made. The ingredients:
1 can tuna
2 egg whites
1/4 cup yellow cornmeal
10 fat free saltine crackers
1/4 tsp onion powder
1 tsp canola oil
This made two patties, and I ate one of them. I also had an iffy lunch (Pad Thai), but I was okay all afternoon, and since the trouble began so shortly after dinner I feel like it was something in the tuna patty. Before eating it I had 2 teaspoons of Acacia powder in water, which I usually have at breakfast and dinner.
Any ideas?
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Lisa
IBS-A, Interstitial Cystitis, Migraines
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Was the tuna in water or oil? if it was in oil, that is probably what affected you. I can't see anything else that would have. Have you had Tuna before with no problems?
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Only use tuna packed in water and don't use onion powder.
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The tuna was in water and I have eaten it many times before with no problems. Usually I eat it straight out of can once drained.
Unless cornmeal can be problematic, the only thing I can think of that might have caused it is the oil, but it was such a small amount I thought it would be fine. I have not used canola oil much before though.
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Lisa
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I am IBS-A. For the past few months, I usually can't go unless I have gas and bloating. The next morning after the gas has passed I have D (sometimes with cramps) and can get it out.
So you think it may have been the onion powder?
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Lisa
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I was IBS-A but now that I have my IF/SF ratio right I am predominatly IBS-D. Onion powder and onions definitely give me problems. Onion is relatively high in IF and sulphur containing compounds.
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Okay I will skip the onion powder next time. Thanks for your help!
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Lisa
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Tuna is one of those fish that are very high in chemical residue (mercury, pcb's, etc). They say you should stay away from tuna if possible. Children should never eat it, and neither should pregnant women. Maybe you are sensitive to one of the chemicals. There are many other "cleaner" fish choices.
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I also have terrible trouble with onions (but I'm C, not D). Also, onion and garlic powders have a tendency to become RANCID over time, which, for me---makes the problem even worse.
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I'm still awaiting Heather's books, so I don't know where she stands on food-combining, but I know that I for one would not DARE combine a sweet starch (cornmeal) with an oily fish-protein food in the same meal. My gut gives me a cramp for even thinking about ingesting this combination...
something to consider
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I have seen the idea of not combining starches with protein mentioned on another site, but have not read about it here. Is this something that is a common problem for IBS? Can you tell me more about it?
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Lisa
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Well..., the science behind this is that when you ingest a starch and a protein in the same meal, neither get digested well, because in layman's terms (mine!) one requires an acidic enzyme, and the other an alkaline one, and these cancel each other out so that the PH in the stomach is not suitable for the digestion of either food. This makes steak and potatoes an indigestable meal, in theory. Ingestion of fats and oils slows down digestion considerably, and shouldn't be combined with proteins (eggs, nuts, meat). Fruit, particularly apples, melons, etc should be eaten alone, because they digest very fast and if held in the stomach by starches and proteins, they ferment and decompose, and there's your bloat!
Then the worst culprit-sugar! Desserts and soft drinks at meals (not that you're eating this way-but so many foods contain their own sugar, with corn syrup, honey etc added) are killer because the sugar inhibits enzyme production for starches and proteins and ferments EVERYTHING in its path, causing bloat and decomposition, and encouraging the wrong bacteria and yeasts...and the gases produced from this irritate the IBS gut.
So, nonstarchy vegetables go with protein, fruit alone, etc
There are many websites that can explain it better (here's one):
http://www.internethealthlibrary.com/DietandLifestyle/Food_combining.htm
I read these things and think Bummer! another complication!, but I also think that people with IBS almost always are deficient in enzymes and stomach acids to begin with, and have weakened digestion in the best of circumstances, so this effect of food combining can be worse with some of us. I know I'm one.
I hope I've helped
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Wow, another huge list of limitations, lol! It's a little overwhelming for me, but thank you very much for the info. It is something I have been curious about, and the link is very helpful. I don't think it's something I'm ready to try in my diet right now, but I will definitely keep it in mind. Maybe one step at a time, like no starch with protein to start.
The fruit part is interesting... I have a friend with IBS, and she has always said that she has to eat fruit alone.
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There's no talk of food combining. It's bacially SF before IF.
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