Uh Am I Doing Something Wrong/What Else Can I Do?
#309263 - 06/17/07 10:54 PM
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For some odd reason, and I have calmed a little (but I am furious), the IBS has gotten out of control the last five days.
My C has gotten exponentially, EXPONENTIALLY worse to the point where it feels like it before I went on Heather's diet.
My stomach is swelled like I just ate a steak and cheese sub; excpet I did not.
I have been severly and chonocially c, the worst in a year, the last five days.
I'd like to know if there is anything I can do to improve or am doing wrong, because after re reading posts and the book I am dumbfounded.
A. Diet
-No dairy, low fat, alcohol
-Small meals
-80 oz of water
-Soluable fiber
-Fiber foods daily
Oat bran w/applesauce
Bowl of Spinach
Canned Pears
2 utensial spoons of Benefiber daily
1 scoop Miralax daily
There has been no change in medication, I've been taking my pre biotic and probiotic the same.
I don't get what I am doing wrong or what else I could do.
I thought perhaps having honey chex ceral, which is lowfat, MIGHT be the problem since it contained almond ingedients, eliminated it for two days, no difference.
I'm getting the same fiber and enough as before.
The only thing I can think of is this coincides with when I changed Oat Bran from Quacker Oats to the generic, yet I've done this before with Oat Bran and suffered no problems.
I took two Phillips stool softners tonight hoping to help.
I really would appreciate any suggestions on what I've done wrong or can do.
I am stumped.
It just dried up overnight, I can get Quacker Oats Bran but that seems unlikely to be the answer.
Thanks.
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Do you eat the bowl of spinach without bread or anything? Cause most IBS-C cant handle much spinach at all, so its impossible to eat without a lot of SF.
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I always it with lunch or dinner, cooked of course.
I've been drinking a lot of water.
I simply don't get I "dried up" nor what my "remedy" is.
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Back to basics
#309288 - 06/18/07 08:39 AM
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It maybe time to start over and go back to the BTC diet. Once things have settled down you can start adding more variety to your diet again.
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just an idea and I know that it is hard to change but could the fact that you are furious over your IBS and stressing over the diet and everything you put into your mouth be adding to the severity of your IBS? Stress can cause havoc on the system and while I am not saying that it is all to blame it could be making things more difficult.
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Stress....eh I've been pateint several days, I started to get mad yesterday. I don't know about it being the cause.
BTC Diet...I basically follow it, the only thing I COULD do is the What to eat when you can't eat, but given the chronic C I doubt that would help, I need something which can get stuff moving.
I am really wondering
1) Why the sudden dry up
2) What the cure is?
-More benefiber
-Switching prebiotics
-Doubling or switching Oat brands
-More fiber and water?
It's not like there is a definceny, I've been following BTC steady unchanged.
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BTC not EFI
#309308 - 06/18/07 12:09 PM
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Oat bran, spinach, etc maybe on the EFI diet they are not on the BTC diet. Go back and check it.
"So stick to foods like plain white rice, plain instant oatmeal, cream of rice cereal, dry corn or oat or rice cereals, pasta, white breads or toast, peeled potatoes, etc. Boring, I know, but it's just a few days"
"After a few days, you should be feeling much better, and your gut will have stabilized. Start carefully expanding your diet - the recipes for zucchini, banana, pumpkin breads work well here, and so does the jok rice porridge soup. Begin to incorporate insoluble fiber foods - carefully! - by blending fresh fruit with soy or rice milk into smoothies, and blending cooked veggies into soups or pasta sauces. Have the smoothie with rice cereal or oatmeal, and the soup with rice or polenta. Try a bit of grilled fish or skinless chicken breast with your pasta/rice"
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I confused the two.
My only concern, when you got a case of C, you need fiber, this diet is mostly soluable.
I do that diet, normally, if my stomach can't handle anything I eat.
I am not having a reaction when I eat, I simply am dead on dry.
It's not like I eat and feel bad, I simply can't go, I would be fearful of that because without fiber how I am going to improve noticably?
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Is there any supplements I can take that should help?
I was considering
1) Maxing out on Benefiber
2) Adding Acadia or Citrucell with Benefiber
3) Taking Phillips stool softner
4) Lactulose
5) Milk of magnesia
What's recommended to get this going?
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A suggestion
#309322 - 06/18/07 02:34 PM
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From the number of posting you have made recently and the variety of questions you have asked it is apparent that you are distressed about your IBS-C. No doubt your distress is making your IBS worse.
Here is a plan that I would like to suggest. First, carefully re-read the material in Heather's books and on the main part of the web site about EFI. In particular, carefully read the information on the breaking the cycle (BTC) diet.
As you read prepare a list things you are going to eat at each meal or snack for the next seven days. If there are things that you don't understand while you are preparing your plan ask specific questions for guidance from the message board.
Finally, follow your diet exactly as you laid it out for one week. Report back on how you feel as you go along. AND be patient! IBS is not life threatening but it is darn uncomfortable.
Remember what Heather says about the BTC
"Diarrhea and pain should resolve in just a few days. Constipation, especially if it's been chronic, can take several weeks after you initially calm down your gut. Please hang in there."
Good Luck 
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You need more than 80oz a day first of all. If I get C, I up my tea intake and up my IF produce, in combination with SF of course. Make sure you are having enough safe fats. I suggest trying flax oil. I am also leary of oat bran personally. If it were me anyway I would try more tea, more IF, flax oil, heating pad/bath, more exercise, and then if that didn't help I would do the BTC.
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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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I'm not going to step on toes here, but didn't you answer a post that you eat ice cream, like dairy ice cream? I know you may not have had any in the past couple of days, but from what I have read on this board ice cream, dairy, etc. is not only a horrible experience waiting to happen to IBsers, but to people who do not have IBS. When was the last time you ate any dairy, ice cream? I had a very difficult time giving up my lactose free fat free "milk", but switched to rice milk, I still get the craps, but hated to give it up in my cereal but did after a lot of posts regarding the long term problems from dairy that won't show up right away.
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I'm just shocked I got to go back on the EFI diet since I've been more vigilant as of late.
Generally I go on EFI if I have been off track in terms of my diet, but I've been doing a better job of recent.
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When I get constipated badly, and anything can cause it, stress, something you ate, time of the month, whatever the reason...you have to settle your gut down. This means cutting OUT the fiber for a few days, the fiber will irritate your guy even more. You should settle your guy and you will find that you WILL go even without fiber because your gut is no longer in a spasm state. then you can gradually introduce IF again. Keep piling fiber on an upset gut will do you no good at this stage. As all the posts have suggested you need to go back to the "when you can't eat anything' diet. Good luck. Also, if you take any kind of laxative now, you will be adding to an already irritated gut and probably still won't be able to have a BM. I have been in your situation and the above recommendations do work. Try not to stress about why it happened, just fix it now and be careful what you eat in the future.
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hang in there!!
are you getting enough exercise? that is JUST AS IMPORTANT as diet! At least 30 minutes a day moderate cardio and three times a week yoga or weights is a must for us!
good luck!!
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I go to the gym four time a week.
Weight train 45 minutes, run 5 minutes.
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I'm really wondering if I need a doctor's visit or if there is something I can take to go...even if I get D.
This is really bad, I am REALLY backed up and it is hard to wait.
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I agree with Chitchat and laurenkay.
Start the breaking the cycle diet to calm the gut. Use not laxitives, they wont help, only aggrivate. After a few days start inserting fiber, bit by bit, very slowly again.
Start doing more cardio too. Thats very important. You do enough weight but you definitely need more cardio, that is what helps the most.
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The only thing is, today and the last few days, I can feel the rumbling in my stomach.
I can feel the unrest and cramping....my stomach it feels is moving but it just can't empty itself.
This is really really unhealthy and I can't help but wonder if there is something...some food or medicine I can take which will be the final link to push everything out and give me peace.
I was considering having a lot of applesauce tonight OR apple cider OR lactulose.
I really feel given my stomach unrest and how it's just waiting to release I gotta do something to release.
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You need more than 80oz a day first of all. If I get C, I up my tea intake and up my IF produce, in combination with SF of course. Make sure you are having enough safe fats. I suggest trying flax oil. I am also leary of oat bran personally. If it were me anyway I would try more tea, more IF, flax oil, heating pad/bath, more exercise, and then if that didn't help I would do the BTC.
Flax oil....isn't that 100% fat...way too high and likely to worsen C?
When I have too much fat it always dries me up, even more.
Isn't it unhealthy to eat just oil?
I'm unsure of what product you're recommending.
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Flax has the healthy Omega 3 oil.
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You can do a board search for flax oil. It is very healthy but of course still has to be in the fat guidelines. You can take pills with breakfast or whatever. Start at a small amount and see how you do. I would bet it would help your C to have a little bit. Remember oil is ok within the diet's guidelines. Many of Heather's recipes have oil. In fact most of her breads call for oil not applesauce like many here sub for the oil. Anyway do a search on it. I don't take it and am no expert on it.
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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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