Re: Bloating
#453 - 02/05/03 10:38 PM
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KinOz
Reged: 02/02/03
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Loc: Brisbane, Australia
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Dear Emma,
Thank you for all your suggestions and I can certainly relate to the "clunky bowels".
I will give the things you suggested a try and let you know how I go.
Kerrie
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Hi Sharon,
I cut out the wheat when my doctor suggested my symptoms might be coeliac disease (gluten intolerance)...it turns out that I don't have coeliac, but just wheat intolerance instead.
Well, it was quite a list of things I cut out, I got most of my info from coelic disease websites...I reintroduced other products with gluten later with no problems.
Grains I can eat include:
rice, oats, corn meal, rye, buckwheat (not actually wheat at all) spelt and kamut (some very funky ancient relatives of wheat that taste pretty much the same in baking) and other flours such as potato, soy, rice (I don't tend to use these seperately but they come in a lot of prepackaged gluten free stuff I buy like my most favourite buckwheat pancakes).
I eat alot of rice, rice noodles, polenta, corn tortillas, spelt pasta and potatos, pumpkin, parsnip etc.
There are others I haven't tried yet (not sure how much insoluble fiber they have) like quinona and amaranth.
Generally, I got rid of wheat bread, pasta, biscuits, muffins, flour tortillas (it helps that you already probably don't eat premade cakes etc)
There is wheat hidden in so many foods it totally threw me for a while until I got really good at reading labels (again coeliac websites would be useful).
Soy, teriyaki and hoisin sauces have wheat. I tend to use tamari and sweet chili sauce for cooking, also fish sauce and oyster sauces are ok. With sauces watch out for things that have "stabilisers" and "thickeners". Other pitfalls are chips (like the fancy flavours on potato chips), baked beans.....I can't think of any more off the top of my head.
I have managed to find safe versions of most things at the supermarket just by reading different brand's labels. I have found good baked beans (which don't make me fart??) and even barbeque sauce the other day.
It took a while to get myself in the habit of eating successfully wheat free (have been for 8 months now). And considering how much better it is not to fart ALL the time, I don't miss it much.....kamut really is the best alternative bread I think, tastes just like the real thing!!
Best of luck, I don't know if I've gone overboard with the advice here  , I hope it helps.
Keep me posted on your success.
Emma
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Emma - no, you didn't go overboard. I really appreciate it. I've been thinking maybe it's the fiber I've been taking. I didn't take any w/dinner last night and I didn't start with the farts until about 10 pm. By 3 am, I found my husband in the guest room again. He said he's just going to go right in there at bedtime instead of getting up at 3 or whatever time to go in there. If he didn't wake up at all until morning, he wouldn't even know the farts were there, would he?!
Anyway, I'm going to try another fiber pill and if that doesn't work, I'll go your route. I do eat a lot of flour fat free tortillas and homemade cakes (Heather's and Wt Watchers recipes), so it's a definite possiblity. I don't really like corn tortillas, but if I have to...
Thanks again.
Sharon 
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Hot peppermint tea, several times a day really has helped me. I also recommend starting the day with a bland rice soup: Put 2 cups water in a small pan, add 1/4 cup of rice, bring to boil, lower flame and continue cooking for 45 min to 1 hr until it becomes soft and mushy, add more water if it starts to dry. This has helped me particularly on days when I went to bed with bad IBS attack. Good luck.
Olgis 
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I also suffer from bloating and some days I manage to get it under control before it gets to be untolerable and other days I guess I'm not quick enough. I hope that one day will be able to have bloat free days! 
I also feel that peppermint tea is brilliant and have increased my intake of that depending on if I feel an attack coming on.
Since starting on the "Heather diet", I already feel loads better!
Emmab, I also feel relieved to not have gas like I used to and also feel like a human. It would get downright embarressing at work! Not only that, but I knew that if I kept it in, how I would suffer later on. I also would have that problem of being hungry but so bloated and in pain the thought of food would scare me!
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Emma,
How did you cut wheat out? What types of tips do you have? I have been thinking about trying to cut it out?
Heidi
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I also get bloated, which never happened before and I get terrible gas. Still trying to find my gas trigger. But, in the morning, I get a big ceramic teapot and put two peppermint teabags and one peppermint/spearmint combination teabag in the pot w/boiling water and sweetner. I let it steep about 10-15 minutes and drink a large cup with my breakfast. Then I let the bags steep until it gets cold and fill a huge glass half full with the rest of the tea and then chipped ice. I drink from it all day until dinner, when I make another large glass of it.
The only thing I have found to make me feel better when my stomach is bloated is to put a larger pair of trousers on so they're not so tight. It's a real pisser, it is!
Sorry I couldn't help more.
Sharon
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Hi Heidi,
I have posted some tips on how I cut out wheat in this thread. I should add that if you just cut out the obvious wheat in your diet (bread, pasta, cakes etc), and you are wheat intolerant, you should should still notice a big difference. At first I only cut out obvious things and noticed the difference. It is only now that I've been off wheat for 8 months and am feeling much better that I can actually notice the effect of 'hidden' wheat.
I can recommend making heather's breads with spelt flour for snacks and keeping a stock of rice crackers with you. I've also found good quality corn and spelt pasta (I'm not a huge fan of rice pasta) spelt and kamut bread and some oat based museli bars.
Good luck. It is difficult at first (particularly eating out, I still have trouble with that) but it does become second nature.
Take care,
Emma
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Hi Peanut,
it is awfully embarrasing at work isn't it!! It was only after I started working in a small lab with 8 others that I was forced to do something about my IBS (until then I'd been working outdoors for quite a while). It is so much better now!!
With me the food always won in the food vs bloating debate (bloating makes me depressed and I eat when I'm depressed....it's hard to win isn't it  )
Take care,
Emma
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Hello Emma,
I work at Starbucks and luckly run the drive thru while at work, so I was able to stand in the window a lot. It still made it hard though. Most of the people there knew I was having problems with my stomach and that I was trying to sort it out. I am just so glad that the past few days has been gas free!
Thanks for replying back. Yesterday was my first day on the board and I really feel at home here.
Take care yourself,
Sheri (Peanut) 
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