Some info on Milk Consumption
#306250 - 05/01/07 06:27 AM
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JTC
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I had mistakenly posted this in the "Living Room" so I thought to include it here. This worked for me and maybe it will work for someone else as well. Its just a summary so if there are any questions about the rest of my experience I'll be glad to answer them (within reason ok ?). And yes I did get and read the book Eating for IBS. It was very helpful.
I was diagnosed with IBS around two years ago. Although I'm doing well with it now it was bad for the last six or seven years with the five years or so prior to that progressively worsening.
In the process I discovered a milk intolerence of sorts. My doctor said this is common with IBS sufferers. Up until recently whenever I drank milk I would get bloating, gas, and cramping. The only help was to immediately take GAS-X or do without milk. So I did without dairy for the last several years. But over the past month I discovered some help for this problem. I began to drink Raw Milk from a local dairy farm. After drinking a glass of raw milk I waited. Guess what ? NOTHING HAPPENED !
I was delighted so after a couple hours I got brave and drank another glass. Guess what ? NOTHING HAPPENED AGAIN !.
Its been four weeks and I drink at least one glass of raw milk daily. So far so good. In fact after adding raw milk to my coffee the coffee no longer bothers me either.
Be aware though that I still avoid artificial sweeteners and use only sugar in my coffee for sweetening. I also still avoid other trigger foods and carbinated bevereges due to the gas. But so far raw milk has been a winner for this IBS sufferer. There are some helpful web sites out there that explain why this can work. I don't want to take up too much time and space with a lengthy lecture. Just GOOGLE on "raw milk" and read some of the info for yourself. For the first time in years I can also eat cereal with milk in the morning.
I hope this info can help someone else.
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I'm all for doing and eating whatever helps you. If you are okay with something....then that's one less thing you have to worry about and one more thing you can enjoy. But I have to warn you, you're most likely gonna get "slammed" for posting something like this. Please don't take it personally.
BTW, where would one get raw milk? Is it expensive? We have no local dairy here! I enjoy my rice milk anyhow. I never was a milk drinker. 
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Hi Jordy.
I was only trying to be helpful with something I discovered worked for me over the past month. So getting slammed was not something I was expecting. To be more precise, I only tried raw milk more for medicinal purposes than for anything else. Although I like milk I'm not a die-hard milk drinker. The natural pro-biotics in the raw milk are what enables me to drink it. The store bought brands make me sick in my intestines and I go through alot of pain and suffering when I drink them. The raw milk I drink just digests. So it works FOR ME. It MAY work for others so thats why I decided to post this. I'm not sure of the rules in this forum so I didn't post the name of the website I used to find the farm I buy my raw milk and organic foods from. But if you GOOGLE the words "raw milk" it will be one of those that come up. It lists within each state where you can buy raw milk. In some states its illegal. Here where I live it is legal and it also happens to be close by.
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Just to be clear, I'm not slamming you! I think it's great that people post what has helped them.
I guess I was just trying to protect you from any ramifications that may come. It hurts me to see other people getting harsh feedback.
Oh, the guidelines of posting are that you are not suppose to post advice that goes agains the EFI diet...which drinking milk does.
Thanks!
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IBS-C with pain and bloat
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Jordy,
Yes, I understood you were not slamming me. I also appreciate your concern since I'm new here. I would hope that folks realize I'm not trying to impose on anyone and just take the info for what its worth to them. I'm sure there are some IBS sufferers that have it alot worse than me (and I've had some painful episodes I thought would kill me).
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The FDA warns against drinking raw milk. They say "Raw milk potentially contains a wide variety of harmful bacteria – including Salmonella, E. coli O157:H7, Listeria, Campylobacter and Brucella – that may cause illness and possibly death."
Milk is pasteurized at quite a low temperature (68 deg C for HTST). Even at these temperatures it is possible that all of the bacteria is killed but the numbers of bad bacteria is reduced to such a low level that as long the milk is refrigerated it is unlikely to cause health concerns.
Raw milk advocates claim that unprocessed milk is healthier because pasteurization destroys nutrients and the enzymes necessary to absorb calcium. It also kills beneficial bacteria and is associated with allergies, arthritis, and other diseases, they say. The FDA say "This is simply not the case, says Sheehan [Director of FDA Division of Dairy and Egg Safety]. Research has shown that there is no significant difference in the nutritional value of pasteurized and unpasteurized milk, he says. The caseins, the major family of milk proteins, are largely unaffected, and any modification in whey protein that might occur is barely perceptible."
It is unlikely that raw milk is any better for IBS suffers than pasturized milk. Drinking raw milk is like playing Russian roulette with your health
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I was tolerant of you posting this on the Living Room board, because honestly, it's a lower-traffic board these days, and you're less likely to get in "trouble" for posting it. But since you reposted it here... well, you're getting warned.
These message boards are for the discussion of the IBS diet only. What you're posting is completely contrary to the IBS diet. In addition, you're posting about a topic that's been especially inflammatory and caused a lot of arguments in the past (although, it's ok that you didn't know that).
Because of this, Heather may decide to delete or "lock" this post. She states these terms clearly on the main message boards page. Just a warning, so you don't wonder what happened if it suddenly disappears.
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This thread on raw milk, in addition to today's feature in Heather's newsletter about yoghurt, has once again arisen a question for me: Could someone please provide me a link to the research that indicates that whey and casein are by definition hard to digest and therefore bad for IBS? I am not trying to cause trouble here, I guess I would just like to hear from sort of medical/scientific authority before I cut out a whole food group that in my own experience makes no difference on my IBS, and which several naturopaths and doctors have told me I'm avoiding needlessly. (I've gone for long periods both on and off dairy with no discernable difference in my symptoms. Right now I am eating low-fat dairy in the form of yoghurt, cottage cheese, and whey protein powder).
I understand lots of people have trouble with dairy, but I can't help but wonder if it's an individualized thing and not a universal trigger food. In the same way as this site frustrates me for advocating white-flour products as trusty IBS-safe foods, even though they personally kill me bloat-wise.
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IBS-C, lots of spasm and trapped gas.
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There isn't any literature that shows the whey and casein are hard to digest. In fact it is quite the opposite (see message ). However, there is evidence to show that some still unidentified constituents in milk may act as an IBS trigger. See this message for more information.
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Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach
FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet
The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS
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