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Re: Dietary and Functional Fiber new
      #288608 - 10/31/06 05:28 PM
j0ey

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My goal is to get firmer (dry) Bm. If it's bulky thats fine to me. My problem has always been the fight against my crave to eat high protein diets and get a healthy BM. As you know there is no fiber in meats so its always a challenge for me.

You asked if i'm IBS-C, or IBS-D. I havent been diagnosed with either. I've always had trouble with my Bms being very unhealthy usualy loose, hot, after certain foods often meat leaves me with warm or burn feelings. I come here because you people are very intuned to your health/nutrition and in general your bodies. After reading what impact food has on the body I think that an IBS Diet will really help my situation.

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Re: Dietary and Functional Fiber new
      #288609 - 10/31/06 05:29 PM
line415

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K2's advice is what you should be following, as it is the whole gist of Heather's program. Your sample diet seemed shocking to me when I first read it because it sounded like more IF than could be handled by most at least at first, especially the salads or the veggies with no sf to cushion them. It depends on if you are c or d, but I would think that if you wanted to keep a similar diet (minus the meat and cheese triggers), you could try eating just a bit of what you already are but matching it up with some sf like rice or pasta or white bread/bagel. I'm a d and I'm just learning, but the sf has definitely started to help give me some formed/bulkier BMs anyway.

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Re: Dietary and Functional Fiber new
      #288614 - 10/31/06 05:42 PM
line415

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You don't necessarily have to have a specific diagnosis of c or d...it sounds like you already know that you lean towards d. Even if you don't have IBS (be sure to get tested for all kinds of things suggested on this site before you assume it's nothing else), it sounds like meat is a real trigger for you, as it is for most people who suffer from IBS. I don't know if you've been just reading the boards or also have read Heather's books, but even the FAQs and multiple posts for newbies can clarify what foods (and don't forget drinks too) are yes, no, and proceed with caution. You may just have a sensitive tummy to certain foods but you won't know until you eliminate and do the break the cycle diet, then start adding in things slowly. Don't be afraid of sf...if your bowels tend to be loose, sf is our friend!

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Then IBS-A, Now a transformed slightly C

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Re: Dietary and Functional Fiber new
      #288616 - 10/31/06 05:50 PM
K2

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High protein diet is fine! Don't fight that urge. The thing you have to do is get the protein from proper (non-trigger) sources, and eat some SF with it too. IBS-safe sources of protein are also the healthiest.

Here's what protein I eat:
chicken and turkey breast
salmon, tuna, white fish
shrimp
soy, tofu
egg whites

If you have loose, hot, frequent BMs then that is IBS-D. If you go days without a BM then that is more IBS-C. It is possible to suffer from both alternating, which is IBS-A.

To bulk up loose BMs you need more SF. I suggest you read on this website the soluble/insoluble sections until you have a really good understanding of how these fibers affect your digestive system and BMs.

Let us know how it goes,

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Re: Dietary and Functional Fiber new
      #288617 - 10/31/06 05:51 PM
K2

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" if your bowels tend to be loose, sf is our friend! "

LOL, well said!

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Re: Dietary and Functional Fiber new
      #288622 - 10/31/06 06:01 PM
j0ey

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This Forum really is amazing. Thank you. honestly I didnt think i'd find people who are so open to this topic. It's een encouraging.

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Re: Dietary and Functional Fiber new
      #288654 - 11/01/06 10:11 AM
Jordy

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I wish I understood more about resistant starch. How to get it into the diet...and if you have to purchase this specific type of corn product and make your own breads with it...or what.
I don't understand what you would eat in a typical day. Can you give us an example of what your normal day looks like? Please?

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Resistant starch new
      #288659 - 11/01/06 10:48 AM
Syl

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Loc: SK, CANADA

Resistant starch is found in rice, potatoes and pasta. The amount increases when these foods cool. There is more resistant starch in cold rice, potatoes and pasta than when they are hot. It is found in other foods too.

You may recall that in a different message thread I asked if you had tried the new formulation of Benefiber . It contains wheat dextrin which behaves like a resistant starch.

In a typical day I eat

Breakfast

Oatmeal with low fructose fruit (unripe banana, kiwi or berries) without milk (of any kind soy, rice or other) sprinkled with brown sugar.

Lunch

Curried or stir fried vegetables (carrots, zucchini, etc) with shrimp, scallops and a small amount of chicken or pork tenderloin on 1/2 cup of cold rice re-heated. I use a small amount of olive oil in my curry or stir fry.

Supper

Grilled or roasted chicken breast, pork tenderloin or bison with a good helping of veggies and potatoes, rice or pasta.

I have IBS friendly snack throughout the day. I don't take any SFS

I hope this helps.


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Re: Resistant starch new
      #288687 - 11/01/06 12:30 PM
Jordy

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Thanks! You can reheat the starch after it is cooled and it stool works? I have to tell you, I wasn't too keen on eating cold rice, potatoes, and pasta!

Your oatmeal is cold at first too? And unripe bananas (green ones) have less fructose than really ripe ones? I read that unripe bananas tend to cause constipation more than ripe ones. And, that ripe bananas were easier to digest.

Do you usually only stick to one serving of fruit a day? Intentionally?

The thing with benefiber is that I read that wheat is an irritant for IBS. And that's what my doctor has told me too. Plus, it just sounds so IF.

Thanks so much Syl.

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fructose new
      #288689 - 11/01/06 12:32 PM
Jordy

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does applesauce and/or apples contain too much fructose? More than pears, which are pretty high, I think.

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