Salt?
#286145 - 10/12/06 09:03 AM
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Draupadi
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Has anyone found that very salty foods make their symptoms worse? Lately, I think I've been noticing a correllation, but it could just be my imagination...at first I thought it might just be because of the link between salty and fatty or fried foods, but I notice the same effect if I over-salt meals I make at home, or in safe frozen or canned foods like Amy's soups and rice bowls. Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this...thanks!
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Re: Salt?
#286153 - 10/12/06 10:19 AM
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Wind
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Actually, I have not noticed that "salt" makes my symptoms worse. I only tolerate sea salt, however. Table salt or MSG
makes me feel ill. I also do not tolerate canned foods/processed foods very well at all. Perhaps it is the preservatives in canned foods?
Kate, IBS-D.
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#286182 - 10/12/06 11:51 AM
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Jeio
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Yes, I think salt makes things worse because once it dissolves in water it becomes Na+ and Cl- (or whatever else+ and Cl-) and the clorine anions are "too agressive" on our poor tummies.
I've noticed that correlation too.
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#286190 - 10/12/06 12:38 PM
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Syl
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Not sure this makes sense. The major acid in the stomach's digestive juices is hydrochloric acid (HCl) which dissociates into H+ and Cl-. Stomach acid has a ph of about 1.0 which is quite high acidity. The acid is then neutralized in the duodenum by sodium carbonate from the pancreas.
The small amount of Cl- that is added to the stomach acid from salt will not have much effect on the amount of anions it contains.
On the other hand the sodium cations (Na+) are transported across intestinal wall into the blood stream and the excess Na+ is disposed of by the kidneys which requires water. This is why you experience water retention when you consume too much salt.
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#286191 - 10/12/06 12:43 PM
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Syl
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The consumption of high levels of salt can cause water retention. It is unlikely to act as a IBS trigger. The excess salt can easily be dealt with by drinking more water to help the kidneys dispose of the excess sodium from the salt. I would be more suspicious of things like onions or onion powder that are frequently added to prepared soups and other foods.
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#286193 - 10/12/06 12:53 PM
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Syl
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There is very little difference between sea salt and table salt. Sea salt is formed from the evaporation of ocean water. It contains 98% sodium chloride whereas table salt is more pure and contains 99.9% sodium chloride. The remaining 2 percent in sea salt is trace minerals such as iron, magnesium, sulfur or iodine. Table salt can contain very small amounts of anti-caking ingredients or potassium iodide. It is the additional minerals in sea salt that some claim make the difference in the taste.
I don't experience any problems with table salt or sea salt. On the other hand MSG or other preservatives such as sodium nitrate and nitrite can give me problems.
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#286194 - 10/12/06 12:58 PM
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Jeio
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Syl, by that same reasoning, I shouldn't have trouble drinking acidic juices (orange juice in particular) and I know for a fact that I do (and that I am talking about a glass of 250 ml so not too big).
However, as I have said before, I have gastritis. I can't even have ibuprophen or aspirin (acetisalic acid) so I guess, what do I want...
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#286201 - 10/12/06 01:12 PM
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Syl
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Ah - but that is a different kind of acid. The acid in OJ comes primarily from ascorbic acid or vitamin C, an organic acid. This acid is handled in a different manner in the stomach than hydrochloric acid. Not all acids are created equal 
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#286212 - 10/12/06 04:35 PM
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Miso
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i find that anything too salty gives me a heck of a headache and funny tummy feeling, but affects my head more than anything, especially any canned soup seems to be the worst, even the amy's ones do it to me, but i hear they have reduced sodium ones so i may try and find those.
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I have not noticed if it affects my bowels but it sure makes me feel funny eating overly salty foods - hate them - probably does have something to do with them aggravating my bowel and it is natures way of keeping me away from them? I really cannot eat any processed foods - even wholesome canned soups do not appeal to me - have to be homemade so I can control the salt. Debbie IBS-C
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