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Who doesn't take an SFS?
      #253995 - 03/23/06 12:03 PM
Augie

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And are you stable? Do you do feel less gassy and bloated without the SFS and still able to "go"?

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Re: Who doesn't take an SFS? new
      #254002 - 03/23/06 12:53 PM
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I don't and I don't feel unable to go. I have gotten quite stable, mostly after starting my AD. But, I am able to tolerate IF a little better than most people on here I think. I eat a lot of small spinach salads and other veggies which seems to keep me pooping once or twice a day.

The SFS always made me gassy, bloated and uncomfortable. I tried a few different ones and stayed on them for a while and they just seemed to make my symptoms worse. My GI told me that they don't always work for everyone.

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Re: Who doesn't take an SFS? new
      #254004 - 03/23/06 12:56 PM
crew

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No SFS for me, and yes, I'm stable. Every now and then I will take one before some IF if I don't have a food source of SF, but other than that, none for me. However, I took Benefiber and it didn't make me feel bloated or gassy ... but that may be because I was never at a very high dosage of them.

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You're a D, right Amanda?-nt new
      #254009 - 03/23/06 12:59 PM
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Are you a C or a D or an A?-NM new
      #254010 - 03/23/06 01:00 PM
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Re: Who doesn't take an SFS? new
      #254016 - 03/23/06 01:29 PM
Nelly

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I'm a D and don't take one. They hurt like hell for me. I get terrible backaches and sweats all over for 3 days after I take one. It's really miserable, so I've opted to just control my IBS with medicine, diet and managing outside stressors. I've only had 2 complete evacs in 3 months (yesterday and Monday-- same attack I think), and it's great to have finally found a combination that keeps me "stable."

Good luck, Augie! Your friend,

~nelly~

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Re: Who doesn't take an SFS? new
      #254026 - 03/23/06 02:18 PM
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I've been slowly cutting back and haven't noticed any difference. I'm IBS-D stable and seem to be doing fine with less, and hopefully none.

So you aren't taking it everyday, but only before a meal that doesn't have enough SF? I plan on backpacking around Europe for over a month and can't imagine bringing it with me and taking it 3 times a day. I haven't been able to find any fiber capsules but I would bring a small amount of Benefiber powder with me if I could take it randomly before meals that may not fit the IBS diet. How much do you take before a meal?

I guess I sort this all out before leaving.
Kat

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Yeah, I might as well admit it publicly new
      #254068 - 03/23/06 05:23 PM
atomic rose

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I don't take one anymore. First I stopped because I couldn't afford it, then I started again, then I just kept forgetting to take it, so I gave up. BUT...

1. I had already pretty much stabilized when I stopped taking it, and
2. I eat a LOT of soluble fiber foods.

I'm still able to "go". I find that eating enough INsoluble fiber makes more of a difference for me there. Then again, I'm an A, prone more to D than C, so maybe that makes a difference. Lately I've been very gassy, but I didn't find that was any different with or without the SFS.

I feel like a horrible traitor even posting this. For most people, a soluble fiber supplement is SUCH a good idea, and I really do credit it with helping me stabilize - especially when I was having trouble eating, because everything was screwing up my guts. But now that I'm stable and eating a really good, balanced diet, with lots of SF and fresh vegetables, I just don't need it anymore.

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Ha Ha! new
      #254091 - 03/23/06 06:47 PM
Augie

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I knew you didn't. Why be embarrassed about not taking something you don't need? Silly woman! Saves lots of money I bet...and that's good!

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Well... new
      #254097 - 03/23/06 07:02 PM
atomic rose

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You know how I feel about people who dish advice on here that's contrary to what Heather teaches - these boards are for Heather's stuff, and that's clearly stated on the site. I just hate to be a hypocrite! LOL

So I'm not embarassed about not needing it - heck no - I just figured I should keep my mouth shut.

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Re: Who doesn't take an SFS? new
      #254098 - 03/23/06 07:03 PM
Wind

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I don't take an SFS. They make me gassy & bloated. They increase my D. They also give me stringy orange bm's for some strange reason. It's very much akin to pumpkin innards if I take an SFS.

I'm more or less stable, with a little Immodium assistance & safe food prep. guidelines. I eat tons of SF and IF, most of the time. I play it by ear & listen to my body's cues, too. I eat as organically as possible which decreases attacks. I'm a very sensitive individual, food-wise. I food process most foods. I take digestive enzymes, liquid vitamin/mineral supplements. I use Beano with notoriously gassy foods if I'm in the mood to eat them. I don't add fats which eliminates many attacks. Lately, safely prepared plant fiber feels good (I really follow Heather's guidelines re: IBS-safe food prep. and cannot believe that I'm eating Beans without a "toot" or a whisper. I should be spontaneously combusting, but I can seriously fit into my size 4 jeans after having eaten over 50g of assorted fibers from food, today!)

I'm not good with plant gum products. Psyllium actually painfully constipated me. Inulin gave me cramping & bloating--and a D-type of spasmodic response. So...I keep it pretty grass-roots & earthy & simple--mostly diet, attitude/lifestyle changes, intuitive eating, applying Heather's advice, Immodium as required, fennel/mint teas, etc. Food combining also makes a difference in my IBS. Eliminating gluten eliminated a lot of problems. IBS is one of those funny things--you never know when it's going to change on you. My IBS, when I was a young teen, was completely different. After menopause, things really switched.

Kate, IBS-D.

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ME! new
      #254104 - 03/23/06 08:05 PM
Bevvy

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Yes, I'm stable.
Yes, I feel less gassy and bloated with it.
And YOU BET I'm still able to "go." Only now it's not URGENT and at the most inopportune times. Now I have a life -- finally. Thank God!

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Yes I am a D Beth-nt new
      #254125 - 03/23/06 11:00 PM
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Are there any C's or even A;s that don't take it? new
      #254133 - 03/24/06 05:55 AM
Augie

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It seems like the D's can do okay without it (and Casey whose an A, but special ), but are there any C's or A's that are stable who do not take it? How do you keep things moving?

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But you don't do SF before IF... new
      #254136 - 03/24/06 05:57 AM
Augie

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...so how do you cushion your tummy?

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So are SFSs not a good idea for D's? new
      #254141 - 03/24/06 06:22 AM
Blondie13

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I've always been a D, though lately veering slightly towards A, not sure why the change - happened since following heathers diet. (All in all it's an improvement to be honest, if I could just get rid of the pain I might start to be able to move forward).

Anyway, I was literally about to push the button on ordering the acacia when I saw this thread. Now very unsure! I have a big event in a couple of weeks, and as my symptoms have been so bad, I was thinking introducing SFSs in the run up?

Is this not a good idea? I thought SFS were good for both D and C?

Help!!

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Re: So are SFSs not a good idea for D's? new
      #254145 - 03/24/06 06:44 AM
K2

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SF's are absolutely great for D's! Many D's use the SF to at least get stable. Just make sure to start at a low dose and work up slowly as Heather recommends.

Order some! I did and have used it for the past 2 months, it helped so much.

Kat (IBS-D)

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I'm only taking 1 or 2 grams worth new
      #254146 - 03/24/06 06:55 AM
Augie

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...of citrucel before my 3 meals. I previously had gotten up to 12 grams of Acacia a day...divided between the 3 meals, but I was real gassy/bloated.

My doctor told me that SFS can be very problematic for IBS folks...so he told me to stop and put me on Miralax.

I still fear eating food without any SF beforehand,,,so I'm keeping that one or 2 grams just for luck?

I don't know...I'm not happy on one or off one.

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Re: So are SFSs not a good idea for D's? new
      #254150 - 03/24/06 07:09 AM
Blondie13

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Great, thankyou! Just placed the order, SFS on its way...



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Oh yes I do, Beth! new
      #254194 - 03/24/06 10:34 AM
Wind

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I think, Beth, you forget that I eat alot of SF plant foods. While I do not consume foods traditionally thought of as SF--grains/starches, I sure eat quite a few KILOGRAMS of SF vegetables every week. Also, many foods contain both kinds of fiber. SF does not necessarily equal "starchy carbohydrate."
Too many individuals only consider the SF in grains/starches, when in reality there is actually MORE SF in non-starchy plant foods. So, my gut is pretty well cushioned most days. Moreover, for optimal health/functioning the individual needs both SF and IF. With IBS, caution/care needs to be applied with IF.

Incidentally, many SFS are bean/legume gum derived or different cellulose compounds. Acacia is a gum. Benefiber is guargum. I believe that "Citrucelle" is methylcellulose.

I do SF with/in concurrence with IF. (Incidentally, this week, I've eaten 5 lbs. or so of zucchini and at least 3lbs. of assorted mushrooms (I've got another 5lbs. of portabellas in my fridge that I haven't arrived at eating and maybe about another 2 lbs. of zucchini), about 2 lbs. of carrots, a large spaghetti squash. Lol, I still haven't even touched my gorgeous golden beets & I have another spagetti squash in the cupboard. And finally, I'm beginning to feel up to eating a little pureed fruit, i.e. applesauce or papaya. Please note that ALL fruits and vegetables contain SF and that the mode of preparation increases the SF of the plant.

Kate, IBS-D.


Edited by Wind (03/24/06 10:36 AM)

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Re: Oh yes I do, Beth! new
      #254215 - 03/24/06 12:12 PM
Augie

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well, I've seen most of your "reporting ins" and I don't think they are in in alliance with the Eating For IBS diet. Maybe I'm wrong...but I don't think so.

I guess we will just agree to disagree.


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Re: Well... new
      #254221 - 03/24/06 12:28 PM
Naturapanic

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Let me ask 2 things

1) For those of you who got stable, how did you do so, the diet? How long did it take? How likely is it anybody, I, can be stable?

2) When taking a SF, do they pleatue? Is it better to stick with one, or has anybody had it where after awhile, switching from one SF brand to another improves before going back to the same?
I remember when I switched from Citrucell to Benefiber I had complete evacuations for the first time a long time, I was most stable of Benefiber, then foolishly had a cleanse, and now of Benefiber am not stable, I was wondering if the time has come for Acadia.

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Re: Oh yes I do, Beth! new
      #254293 - 03/24/06 06:01 PM
Wind

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I dare you to report what you eat.

Kate, IBS-D.

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Re: Oh yes I do, Beth! new
      #254311 - 03/24/06 08:04 PM
Augie

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I'm too upset and astonished at your words to say anything tonight.

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