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C's and antidepressants
      #248596 - 02/25/06 08:37 AM
Kree

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I'm thinking of asking my doctor about getting put on antidepressants for a while. The brownies just haven't been enough lately, lol. I was up most of the night last night feeling too anxious to sleep. It was like my stomach was tied in knots. I'm usually the type of person who avoids putting drugs into my body whenever possible, but work has been super stressful for me lately and there comes a point when enough is enough! My question is for C's who have been on antidepressants for non-IBS reasons. Which meds have you found to be effective without worsening your C symptoms? I know a lot of the ADs are better for controlling D, and I certainly don't want to make my C any worse. I'd appreciate any advice!

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Re: C's and antidepressants new
      #248603 - 02/25/06 08:51 AM
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Kree, I recently asked for help with my worssening PMS symptoms. Since my IBS has gone from D to C, I too was worried about making it worse. However, what I have found is that it is, in fact, much better because I am not so stressed. I'm only taking 10mg of prozac, and I can sleep better, handle PMS better, and my C is better! Can't beat that!!

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Great to hear!! That's one for Prozac... -nt- new
      #248607 - 02/25/06 09:13 AM
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Would you consider ... new
      #248646 - 02/25/06 03:54 PM
Sand

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trying something to help you sleep instead of an AD? I know work is miserable for you right now, but getting a good night's sleep every night might make it easier to cope with. (I think of AD's as "big drugs" but sleeping pills as not so big which is why I'd try a sleep aid before an anti-depressant.) Just a thought.

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Re: C's and antidepressants new
      #248649 - 02/25/06 04:25 PM
Aly

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HI there...I finalyl got on Lexapro a while ago because of crazy anxiety. After gallbladder surgery, just graduating college and all, I was really stressed..especially with starting a new job. So, I started it...and somehow I haven't had C since...it's amazing. I don't know if I can blame it ALL on the Lexapro, as I started hypnosis tapes as well...but I feel quite well! I have been so C my whole life and after surgery, I didn't get any D at all...so Lexapro has been great--and has helped me get my life back on track! Hope this info helps!

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I take Prozac too new
      #248659 - 02/25/06 07:01 PM
Augie

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I take 40 mg a day. I've tried about 8 to 10 different ADs over the past few years or so...and couldn't tolerate any of them besides Prozac and Lexapro. Lexapro didn't do anything for me though. And I was convinced it increased my C...but I think I was blaming the Lexapro and that it was just my stupid C staying the same.

I would warn you agains Paxil if you only plan on being on an AD for a short time. Paxil is one of the hardest ADs to come off of. Everyone I know, including myself, who has stopped the Paxil has had a nightmare coming off of it.

Good luck. Unfortunately, you might have to try a few before you find one that works and that your body tolerates without nasty side effects.

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Re: Would you consider ... new
      #248723 - 02/26/06 10:01 AM
Johnny T. Reb

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Sand, With all of what she's going through now, I think the AD
is probably a good idea.

Kree, I take Paxil(37.5 mg per day right now) and it has
helped me a lot both with the C and my anxiety. I think it's
been shown to be effective for at least 50% of the people who
try it. -Bob

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Here's what I don't understand new
      #248737 - 02/26/06 10:59 AM
Sand

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I thought anti-depressants were for:

1) long-term depression with no apparent causal event
2) depression with a causal event but which did not resolve in a reasonable amount of time
3) depression so severe that the depressed person could not function adequately without chemical intervention
4) depression so severe that talk therapy could not be effective without chemical intervention

I know they're also prescribed "off-label" in "non-therapeutic" doses (i.e., less than would be used to treat depression) for IBS. And I know from something posted in the LR that Elavil can be used for insomnia and chronic pain - from the dosage, it sounds like that's at "non-therapeutic" levels, also. All of this seems reasonable to me - using big drugs to treat big or intractable problems.

What I'm hearing a lot about now (not just on the Boards, but from people I know) is using anti-depressants to handle "life event" problems - relatives dying, spouses leaving, bad jobs, bad marriages - where there is no chronic, unrelieved, long-term depression and no consideration of talk therapy. ADs are such big, big drugs that this trend makes me nervous. It makes me even more nervous for a short-term situation - getting onto and off of ADs can be a miserable process. Beyond all that, people are supposed to be unhappy when sad things happen - it's part of what motivates us to change, to move on, to find another way, to understand. And beyond all of that is my bone-deep feminism - I'm old enough to remember when women who were unhappy with their lives were told to take Valium every day, get over it, and cheer up.

I'm not saying someone who is in Kree's position - a miserable supervisor, unhelpful co-workers, and unable to leave for four months - should suck it up and tough it out. I'm just saying that anti-depressants seem like overkill as the first line of defense. There are milder drugs (including Valium, ironically enough) that can help with sleep problems and anxiety and have, it seems to me, fewer side-effects.

I certainly know that anti-depressants, like all major psychoactive drugs, are a Godsend for people who truly need them and whose lives would be unlivable without them. I just think they should be a last resort.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to get clobbered for this but I needed to say it. I'll be off the Boards for a day or two, so I'll check for bruises when I'm back on.

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Re: Here's what I don't understand new
      #248880 - 02/27/06 08:28 AM
Johnny T. Reb

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Sand, You are correct on 1) through 4), but nowadays it's also
used to treat plain old ordinary anxiety, and for IBS, the
SSRI's are used to get the serotonin levels up in the colon.
AD's also vary quite a bit in strength, Prozac is the strong-
est. In fact, the FDA was considering yanking it because of
the no. of incidents of people going nutso on it. Valium is
pretty strong too, and it also causes C bigtime, others
like it, Librium, etc. do the same thing. -Bob

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Thanks! new
      #248885 - 02/27/06 09:48 AM
Kree

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Thank you all for your suggestions. I now have a little list to bring with me to my doctor this afternoon. I chickened out last time I wanted to ask him about ADs, but this time I'm definitely going through with it.

Sand, I certainly understand where you're coming from, but my stress is affecting a lot more than just my sleep at this point. The funny thing is, I felt just the way you do about ADs until very recently, but some people I'm very close to have gotten through tough times with the help of ADs. My cousin was extremely depressed after a very tough break up, and he says going on ADs for a couple of months was the best thing he could have done to help him function in everyday life until he was more emotionally stable. I think that's what I need, too. I've been coming home a lot of nights and crying uncontrollably, and that's completely not me. I think stressful events themselves can cause a change in your body chemistry that needs to be put right again. Just my two cents on the issue!

Thanks again and I'll let you all know what happens this afternoon!

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