Hoodia
#241230 - 01/24/06 01:54 PM
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Saveena
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I'm a little behind the times when it comes to dietary supplements. I'm not even sure how I heard about this one, but it sounds pretty promising.
In addition to an appetite suppressant the Sans Bush men also "used hoodia for severe abdominal cramps, haemorrhoids, tuberculosis, indigestion, hypertension and diabetes."
Anyone have feedback about this?
~ Lisa
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~*~ Update ~*~
I purchased the Hoodia last night. I've taken two doses so far without any adverse effects. While it states that you should take it with water, I've been substituting soy milk.
My appetite has decreased. Which is very good because I was obsessing about food because of the new diet I've started. I have a hard time with diets because of that issue. Under normal circumstances I don't obsess about food, but when I'm trying to cut back it is a whole different issue.
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Where did you get this stuff from? Is it a powder or an SFS?
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~ Beth
Constipation, pain prodominent,cramps, spasms and bloat!
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Re: Hoodia
#241404 - 01/25/06 08:36 AM
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Johnny T. Reb
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Hi Saveena, Are you talking about the Bush men that run around
the Kalahari Desert in south Africa?! I've seen your Dragon
quote before, but I can't remember where. -Bob
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My Consumer reports on Health had a brief article on it -- just saying that no real studies had been done on it -- that it wasn't regulated well and that they suggested staying away.
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Yes, THOSE Bushmen. LOL I think they are on to something great.
I pop up every where. 
~ Lisa
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After lots of research, I bought it at a local health food store. The particular brand I selected is "Source Naturals" (http://www.sourcenaturals.com/products/GP1815.html). I have used their products before and I trust them as a company. Plus, it was one of the brands mentioned in one of the articles I read (http://altmedicine.about.com/od/popularhealthdiets/a/hoodia1_2.htm).
These are solid pills that are 20:1. It isn't cheap, but I'm very happy with them so far! I've stopped obsessing about food, but I still have an appetite when it is meal time. No cramps or other side effects. Since my bowel movements were never regular to begin with (I'm a D and C), I can't really say if this has effected them or not. On the other hand, I'm not running to the potty with a case of D! 
There are brands that are FDA regulated now, but there are still quite a few that are not. I didn't check to see if Source Naturals is one of them, but I do know that they have lawyers that keep them in FDA compliance.
Talk to your local health food store to see what they have to say about the product and brand before you buy any herbal supplement. Getting the inside info from some one you know and trust is always a great way to decide upon a product.
Thank you all for the support! I'll let you know how things go.
~ Lisa
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Re: Hoodia
#241874 - 01/26/06 03:51 PM
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Here is an interesting article about the pros and cons of Hoodia.
http://www.3fatchicks.com/diets/hoodia-gordonii.php
I tried Hoodia for a while, but didn't notice any change in appetite. As with anything, 'your mileage may vary'. There seems to be some optimism that a supplement that does work may be developed in a few years time.
I've lately come to the conclusion that, even if it works, I'm not prepared to be on any weight loss supplement for the rest of my life (which is what it would take as I'm a food addict). Who knows what other side effects there might be if you have to take a supplement FOREVER?
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I've lost 3 pounds this week! When you have about 100 to go, that is very good news. And no, I'm not exagerating. I would be happy with loosing half of that, but I know my doctor won't be happy till I am under 150. At 5'5" that is still a little on the heavy side, but not too damaging on the arthritic knee. This is close to what I look like these days: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=23056860&context=set-178468&size=o
I am hoping that a couple weeks on the Hoodia will help me out with the amount that I eat. Unless the supplement really does help me with abdominal cramps, it isn't something I want to be on for the long term. I am looking at this as a way to teach my body and brain that I don't have to constantly worry about food. For me, over eating is a habit more than an addiction.
~ Lisa
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Well Lisa, you're making progress, that's good. No annoying
side effects from hoodia? That's not bad either. I see that
the mice in Texas are pretty big! -Bob
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I sure don't need it to lose weight...but I was hoping that it would be helpful for cramps and pain. I guess I won't worry about wasting my money on this if it has no impact on helping your IBS.
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~ Beth
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I haven't tested it with anything that causes cramps... maybe I'll have some caffiene tomorrow!
Up until recently I've been concentrating on the loosing weight part. Since that is my main goal.
The only adverse "effect" is that I forgot to eat dinner last night and got shakes around 9PM because of low blood sugar. That's bad. Today I'm trying to stay on my weekday meal schedule so that I don't skip anything.
~ Lisa
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As I mentioned to Augie, the only negative effect is that I forgot to eat dinner yesterday. I really don't want to skip meals, just cut back! LOL
I'm not sure if you were kidding about the "mouse"... that was a opossum that my ex rescued. She was about 6 months old in that picture. It was really amazing learning about the only North American marsupial.
However, one of the things we disagreed about was releasing her. I was against keeping a full grown opossum as a pet, but that was the whole reason he rescued her. I think she should have been released into one of the local forests as soon as she was old enough to eat "normal" food.
~ Lisa
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Lisa, Oh yeah, I was just kidding. Were you able to litter
train her? What is normal food for Opossums? They're herbivo-
rous aren't they? Did she get very big? Can they be kept like
pets? There are some wild animals that do domesticate very
well like skunks,ferrets,rabbits,etc. -Bob
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Let me preface this by saying that this was an orphan. She was either intentionally left by her mother or fell off of the mother. There was no adult female found in the area.
I don't want to insult any one, but I may with this next statement. After raising and/or training a steer, lambs, horses, chickens, cats, dogs, and rabbits... I found out that possums are the dumbest of them all. Now this may not be true of all opossums, but the ones I have had contact with are very stupid.
They like to use a shallow water source as a bathroom, so litterbox training is out of the question. This one couldn't seem to figure out how to not get her tail and belly covered in feces (even though we arranged an area above the water for her to rest while doing her business). She wasn't very good at cleaning herself either. Possums are supposed to be fastidious, but this one was only concerned with her hands and head.
She occasionally tried to clean us. Within seconds I would have a large puddle of drool on or under whatever part of me she was trying to clean.
Possums are true ominoves. You have to be very careful to make sure that they get the correct amounts of everything or they will become very ill. This is one of the biggest reasons that it is discouraged for people to make a pet out of a possum. Not to mention that it is illegal in most cities to have wild animals without a wildlife rehabilitator license and proper facilities.
As for size, the last time I saw her, the body was over a foot long. I've heard that they are usually the size of a large housecat. My cats are 15 pounds each without fat, so my idea of a large cat is a bit different.
While I am glad that I had this experience, it is not something I would suggest others attempt. Caring for an orphaned opossum takes a lot of time and patience. I would adopt another baby to rehabilitate for release, but I would not have one as a pet.
Hopefully, that answers all of your questions.
~ Lisa
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Lisa, Thanks very much for the info. Not that I was thinking
about getting a pet opossum, I was just curious. I wouldn't
have thought they would be that dumb. A friend of mine up here
tried raising chickens once. He said that they are so stupid and
dirty that they actually poop on each other. -Bob
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Quote:
I don't want to insult any one, but I may with this next statement. After raising and/or training a steer, lambs, horses, chickens, cats, dogs, and rabbits... I found out that possums are the dumbest of them all. Now this may not be true of all opossums, but the ones I have had contact with are very stupid.
Gasp!!!! I'd like you to know that my great-uncle twice removed was a possum!!!
--AC
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I wrote that not just for you, but for anyone thinking about taking a wild animal into their home and trying to keep it as a pet. Before I lived with the opossum, I didn't see anything wrong with trying to tame wild animals. But now, I understand that it isn't right to impose our will upon wild creatures.
And yes, chickens are stupid. After raising about 25 for a livestock show, I couldn't eat chicken for 2 years. Good thing it was before my IBS! Now days I only remember the good things... which sometimes also illuminate how little brains they have. To give you an example, when they were little yellow fluff balls, they were so fun to watch. Incredibly cute and the sweetest sounds! And it was hilarious watching them run across their 4 foot pen to try to take flight and jump the cardboard wall we set up to keep them in. Inevitably, they would never be able to leap high enough or even take flight and would hit the wall. It was sad, but also side spittingly funny to watch them do this repeatedly. I know that sounds cruel, but it was so hard not to laugh at them.
~ Lisa
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ROFL
Thanks for that!
~ Lisa
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