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Re: Large pills/Calcium supplements new
      #216094 - 09/27/05 09:04 AM
Sand

Reged: 12/13/04
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Loc: West Orange, NJ (IBS-D)

I think the calcium carbonate in Tums IS the antacid. I can't see anything else in there that's an active ingredient.

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Re: Large pills/Calcium supplements new
      #216111 - 09/27/05 09:45 AM
lalala

Reged: 02/14/05
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I think the calcium carbonate in Tums IS the antacid. I can't see anything else in there that's an active ingredient.




I didn't realize that! Thanks for the information, Sand. (When will I learn not to assume things? I didn't even check the ingredients because I didn't want an antacid...)

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You are on the wrong track... new
      #216125 - 09/27/05 10:33 AM
belinda

Reged: 10/09/03
Posts: 474
Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I don't know whether this will help you or not, but all of the things you have been trying (with the exception of Heather's diet -- her diet rules not her recipes, that is) would send my IBS into orbit and I would be unable to function because of the pain and attacks.

With IBS, especially if it is severe, simplier is always better. By this I mean prepare everything yourself from scratch using Heather's diet rules.

Stay away from prepared foods and vitamin supplements, etc. I find prepared foods and supplements trigger IBS attacks. The only thing I recommend is Heather's organic acacia. However, I am sure you are aware a lot of IBS people have trouble tolerating it.

Basically, if you want to be well, you need to invest time in preparing your own food. That way you have full control over your food content.

The other key thing you need to be aware of is your food supply. If you eat poor quality food from cheap supermarkets, you may find yourself ill even though you are following Heather's diet. Therefore, you may need to spend more on your grocery bill to purchase better quality food. Personally I recommend eating organic because it is not genetically modified and has no additives or preservatives or harmones/antibiotics.

I'm afraid there are no quick and easy solutions for IBS. Too many people on this website are looking for a simple way and there just isn't one.

I have to sacrifice every Sunday afternoon and every Thursday evening after work, plus an hour each day, to preparing food from scratch. I also have to spend an inordinant amount of my budget on good quality, organic food. I'm fed up with it, but I've come to accept there is no other way around it. It is simply the price for being well.

In addition, IBS people need to follow a regime of exercise (gym workouts, etc.) and relaxation (yoga, etc.).

On the bright side, if you do all of these things, you will not only be well, but you will probably be healthier than anyone you know!

Hope you feel better very soon.

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Re: You are on the wrong track... new
      #216129 - 09/27/05 10:48 AM
Snorkie

Reged: 02/15/05
Posts: 1999
Loc: Northern Illinois, USA

I'm sure ALL of us were looking for a quick fix when we first found this site, and yes it does take awhile to sort things out and what works for you (the general you, not anyone specific)individually.

Not everyone can find all organic food. Not everyone can afford it, either. Yes, IBS does make you have to slow down & prepare at least some of your own food, but once again, preparing EVERYTHING yourself is not an option for everyone.

As for the calcium, thing, I must say I don't have much to add. I take a multivitamin that has 35% of the RDA for calcium. I am also able to drink soy milk and soy cheese without problem, but I realize this isn't an option for everyone. I believe my sister (she's IBS-D; I'm more of an A lately) does the caltrate thing, but she does a lot of things differently than I do when it comes to IBS.

It comes down to "pick your own guru" as was mentioned in another recent thread. Find what works for you and stick with it.

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Re: You are on the wrong track... new
      #216150 - 09/27/05 11:37 AM
belinda

Reged: 10/09/03
Posts: 474
Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Snorkie:

I think you misunderstand me. I am simply stating the best (ideal) way of dealing with IBS, in particular for people who have a SEVERE CASE of it. The best way is to prepare everything yourself and use a high quality food source. It is obvious not every person can do this or can afford to do this. But it is common sense that this would probably be a good approach if you are extremely ill with IBS.

I am talking about the people on this board, including the author of the original post of this thread, who are very ill and who have found little or no relief from their current diet/lifestyle regimes even though they are following Heather's diet. In order to be well, these people may have to prepare everything from scratch (unless they can find IBS-safe prepared food somewhere ... for example, I am able to purchase IBS-safe bread from a good bakery where I live) and they may also have to use good quality food (organic is probably the best).

I'm not saying this to antagonize people. I am simply stating a reality. I don't think it's a question of what we want to do (whether we have time to make our own food or whether we can afford good quality food). I think it's a question of what we might have to do in order to be well -- especially for those who are finding that nothing seems to work. We can choose not to take this approach (because we have no time and we can't afford it), but the result could be continued illness. This, again, is the reality.

I continued to be ill until I made some dramatic changes, including switching my food supply to organic (whenever possible and feasible) and preparing my own food. I removed everything from my diet containing additives and other junk. And, of course, I employed Heather's diet rules.

After battling IBS for 47 years, and having a very severe case of IBS, my conclusion has been that generally staying away from most prepared foods (except those you find are safe) and staying away from anything containing additives, chemicals, etc. and preparing my own food from a good quality food supply is the best method for me of dealing with IBS. I have found in my experience that even the most minute ingredient can trigger an attack. So even a pesticide in a conventional veggie can make me ill whereas I might be able to tolerate the veggie if it were pesticide-free.

I truly hope others won't have to take such a drastic journey to wellness as I have, but I suspect it may be necessary for some. If so, one might have to dedicate much more time in preventing IBS attacks (preparing one's own food, etc.) -- which seems to me to be a much better option than to dedicating most of one's time to recovering from IBS attacks.

By the way, organic food need not be expensive. There are sales all the time, just like regular food. Also, prepared food is expensive so if you generally cut it out, you can free up more money for better quality food. I also forego some things I like doing like seeing movies at the theatre, etc. in order to bolster my food budget to purchase high quality food so I can be well. It just depends on your priorities I guess.






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Re: You are on the wrong track... new
      #216155 - 09/27/05 12:08 PM
jaime g

Reged: 07/27/05
Posts: 961
Loc: new york city

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I'm not saying this to antagonize people. I am simply stating a reality.





i think that's part of what's antagonizing people - you're stating your opinions, not realities, but you're stating them as if they were facts. organic food is what works best for you, but part of what works so well with the community of this board is respecting the fact that everyone's ibs is different, and everyone's best way to be healthy is different as well.

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Stephie new
      #216157 - 09/27/05 12:24 PM
Snow for Sarala

Reged: 03/12/03
Posts: 5430
Loc: West Coast, USA

I hope you feel better soon *hugs*

I don't have much advice...I like the idea of checking to make sure the calcium chew you were taking was dairy free and considering taking cal in another form.

For gas pain...the only thing that works for me is yoga....which is troublesome if you are out and about...but when I'm home I do yoga for say 15-30 mins, I'm passing gas, and feeling BETTER! The pain goes AWAY! I don't know if it would work for you...but if you haven't tried yoga upon an acute pain attack from gas/bloating go for it

As for D...well...I'm an A who is mostly C. So I'm not going to be much help

I hope you figure it all out soon...you're an amazing gal who deserves some serenity and wellness already *hugs*

Love ya!

Ruch



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Pilates also works wonders. new
      #216159 - 09/27/05 12:31 PM
Casper

Reged: 10/16/04
Posts: 407
Loc: Memphis, TN

I find that I have much better days (less cramping and gas) when I do pilates for five minutes in the morning. It's realy amazing.
Wow! When do you find time for so much yoga?

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Re: Booo, nothing is working for me anymore new
      #216160 - 09/27/05 12:34 PM
Casper

Reged: 10/16/04
Posts: 407
Loc: Memphis, TN

OMG! I hate going through spouts like that. I think you need to do the starting over thing (what to eat when you can't eat anyhting) and then gradualy try each new thing to see what works. I know it sounds corny and tiring, bu tkeep a journal of what you eat, what meds you take etc. and how you feel that day. Goos luck. I hope you feel better soon.

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      #216161 - 09/27/05 12:49 PM
Snorkie

Reged: 02/15/05
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Loc: Northern Illinois, USA

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