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Re: How fast did increase? new
      #214587 - 09/20/05 08:17 AM
anlikerm

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Is this question for me??? I increased to 3 tablespoons too fast!! I went from 1/2 a tbs twice a day to 1 tbs 3 times a day within about a week and a half!! Wayyy to fast!! I kept increasing by 1/2 tbs, every time I took it, everyday.....that was bad. I bloated up like a balloon, had major gas and was nauseous and had diarrhea! I was only supposed to increase the dosage every week. So, I guess it should take about 6 weeks to be on 1 tbs three times a day. I don't know.......maybe longer.....
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Re: How fast did increase, Bob? new
      #214601 - 09/20/05 08:31 AM
Johnny T. Reb

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Beth, I started at half a teaspoon about the beginning of July
and was increasing at about a half teaspoon per week until I
started have worse problems with my BM's towards the end of
July, at which point Sand suggested upping the acacia dose.
At that point I started increasing it at a teaspoon per week,
and this is at each dose,so it would be three teaspoons total,until I got up to a tablespoon per dose and stopped
at that point just a short while ago. No, I never got any
pain, but at points I did notice more burping due to gas.
Now, I'm going to try and increase my IF and actually cut
back a bit on the acacia. -Bob


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Take lots, but go up slowly (m) new
      #214618 - 09/20/05 09:01 AM
Sand

Reged: 12/13/04
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Loc: West Orange, NJ (IBS-D)

My recommendation is to start with 1/4 teaspoon PER DAY. Do that for 3 days. Then add another 1/4 teaspoon, so you're taking 1/2 teaspoon PER DAY. Do that for 3 days, then another 1/4 teaspoon, do that for 3 days, another 1/4 teaspoon, and so on. I didn't go up steadily. Once I was getting at least 1 Tablespoon total per day, I'd stick at a dose for a few extra days every so often and see how I was doing. I always felt like there was room for improvement until I got to my current dose of 8 teaspoons.

As for splitting doses, my first 1/4 teaspoon dose I took in the morning. When I added a second 1/4 teaspoon dose, I took that in the evening. The third 1/4 teaspoon dose I added at lunch. As I upped the dose after that, I upped it in the same pattern: added to morning first, then evening, then lunch. Once I got to a whole teaspoon in the morning, I added the rest to evening and lunch, because I start my mornings with applesauce and my breakfast is always high SF.

Right now, I do 1 teaspoon in the morning in at least 1/2 cup applesauce. The other 7 teaspoons I mix into 24 ounces of water. I drink at least 8 ounces with lunch and 8 ounces with dinner. Whatever is left after lunch and dinner, I have after dinner.

I know taking a LOT of SFS is important for me (8 teaspoons of acacia per day = 20 grams of SF per day) and I'm IBS-D, so I'd imagine it's even more important for IBS-C. However, I also know going up slowly was important for me, too. I figure IBS tummies are so touchy, anything strange is going to freak them out, so it's best to give them a lot of time to get used to something new and foreign.

As for the question about whether to vary the SFS does based on how much SF you're eating, I would say absolutely not. A SFS supplement is not medicine, but I find it best to think of it that way. My SFS is my base, my absolute irreducable minimum. Any more SF than that is just gravy (sigh, gravy). I don't see any downside to getting "too much" SF if I take my SFS and also eat a lot of SF foods and, besides, the issue of how much SF you're actually getting in food is pretty darn iffy, so why take chances?

HTH.

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Re: Do you increase by 1/4 tsp at each dose? new
      #214619 - 09/20/05 09:01 AM
melitami

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Loc: Ewing, NJ, USA (IBS-D, Vegetarian)

I increase it by 1/4 tsp for the day. And to answer your question lower in the thread, I don't think you should lower the dose relative to how much fiber food you eat. I know I don't.

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Sand, was this for me? new
      #214651 - 09/20/05 10:06 AM
Augie

Reged: 10/27/04
Posts: 5807
Loc: Illinois

I thought Bob said that you told him for C we should do greater increases? When I am C it is so hard to be patient.

Do you think I should stop the psyllium and just start all over again with the Acacia at 1/4 tsp a day? Even though I'm not having BMs with the tsp of psyllium and the 2 tsp of Acacia?

Thanks for any advice.

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Nope, this is what I think for everybody. I posted this because ... new
      #214725 - 09/20/05 12:35 PM
Sand

Reged: 12/13/04
Posts: 4490
Loc: West Orange, NJ (IBS-D)

I thought my advice was getting scrambled a little bit as the thread went on. Just wanted to make it clear that I think everybody should start low and go slow. I did tell BobK that I thought he needed more SFS, but if my advice came across as increasing faster, I wasn't clear enough.

I don't know what to say about just acacia versus acacia plus psyllium. Acacia works for me so that's really all I can comment on. Given that Heather recommends up to 30 grams of SF from SFS per day for IBS-C, though, I don't think 1 teaspoon of psyllium plus 2 teaspoons of acacia gets you anywhere near that. Plus - all together now - you need as much IF as possible if you're IBS-C.

I can imagine how hard it must be. I did a post a while back about how when you're IBS-C, following Heather's guidelines must be almost an act of faith.

Take care.

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Re: Nope, this is what I think for everybody. I posted this because ... new
      #214745 - 09/20/05 01:21 PM
vanillabean

Reged: 09/09/05
Posts: 56
Loc: Mississippi

wow- 30g SOLUBLE fiber alone? how in the world can one accomplish that? and not with just the Acacia alone?

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Thanks Sand... new
      #214750 - 09/20/05 01:37 PM
Augie

Reged: 10/27/04
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Loc: Illinois

Do you think I should start all over again with the SFS at only 1/4 tsp twice a day if I went up too fast? Or do you think I should stay at 8 grams a day? It's been maybe 6 to 8 weeks that I worked up to this amount.

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I do 20 easily (m) new
      #214771 - 09/20/05 02:48 PM
Sand

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Loc: West Orange, NJ (IBS-D)

I take 8 teaspoons of acacia which is 20 grams of Soluble Fiber from my SFS alone. I could do 30 grams of SF from acacia with no trouble and I would if I needed to.


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Re: Thanks Sand... new
      #214772 - 09/20/05 02:51 PM
Sand

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I wouldn't start over - it sounds like you went up pretty slowly. I'd just start slowly increasing the amount of SFS.

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